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SUSslimey
post Oct 10 2015, 10:10 PM


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QUOTE(sportivo @ Oct 10 2015, 09:57 PM)
1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell.

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human?

3. is the stem cell still alive?


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not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam
Ramjade
post Oct 10 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Oct 10 2015, 10:10 PM)
1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell.

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human?

3. is the stem cell still alive?
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not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam
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One box of product cost rm6-8k. Seller instantly become rich.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 10 2015, 10:30 PM
sportivo
post Oct 11 2015, 12:58 AM

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Ramjade, if you think that Purtier is costly then you should define your prefer price for stem cell therapy.

Just for sharing purpose, Switzerland is charging customer US$30K for stem cell injection therapy.

Maybe you should study and research more on the genuine Purtier product and its real cost and benefits before you shoot blanks with all the wild allegation and pessimistic approach.

Purtier is certified by FDA.

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post Oct 11 2015, 01:21 AM


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QUOTE(sportivo @ Oct 11 2015, 12:58 AM)
Ramjade, if you think that Purtier is costly then you should define your prefer price for stem cell therapy.

Just for sharing purpose, Switzerland is charging customer US$30K for stem cell injection therapy.

Maybe you should study and research more on the genuine Purtier product and its real cost and benefits before you shoot blanks with all the wild allegation and pessimistic approach.

Purtier is certified by FDA.
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1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell. saying that is stem cell therapy is bullshit

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human? more bullshit

3. is the stem cell still alive? lel

4. FDA?
there's only 1 stem cell product approved by the FDA and it is hemocord.
http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerup...s/ucm286155.htm
also, there is not a single clinical trial on stem cell taken orally. your product is scam


scam
scam
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not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam


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post Oct 11 2015, 06:03 AM

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QUOTE(sportivo @ Oct 11 2015, 12:58 AM)
Ramjade, if you think that Purtier is costly then you should define your prefer price for stem cell therapy.

Just for sharing purpose, Switzerland is charging customer US$30K for stem cell injection therapy.

Maybe you should study and research more on the genuine Purtier product and its real cost and benefits before you shoot blanks with all the wild allegation and pessimistic approach.

Purtier is certified by FDA.
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See injection. There's a big difference between injection and eating. Please la, you want people to buy your product, better be smart a bit la. And those are not deer placenta. Those are if I am not mistaken, stem cells from thr human own body. Injecting a foreign substance will induce rejection except if it's from the patients own body.

Do read up why we don't ingest insulin but inject it in. As slimey said, after digestion, you are getting just proteins. So effectively you are paying high prices for microgram of protein. The protein must be gold to pay so much for it. laugh.gif Stem cells work if they are still alive and able to divide. You tell me, are your stem cells still active?

Rather than paying rm6-8k for false hope, I rather use the money to go for proven stuff with research, change in diet by reducing carbohydrate, consuming more lingzhi (I can easily get how many kg from mountainroseherb), cordyceps, supplementing with high dosage of curcumin (curcumin have proven to be universal Anticancer - only is not absorbed by the body but there are ways around it), reservatrol (high dosage) lots of white tea, high dosages of broccoli sprouts, ahcc, ip-6, regular consuming of spirulina and cholrella. By spending like that, there more than enough left as the most one spend is only about Rm2k and it can last few months if one were to buy everything I listed.

Really? If you trust what the FDA certified then you are better off with chemotherapy as recommend by FDA. FDA even certified drugs which pain and few years down the road hqvebbeen found to cause heart attack.

Despite not agreeing with other people here about the kind of food, but I think we can agree on one thing, diet will help a person very much.

Please la, if you want people to buy stuff, answer the questions posted by slimey. Don't try to con people.

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post Oct 11 2015, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Oct 11 2015, 01:21 AM)
1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell. saying that is stem cell therapy is bullshit

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human? more bullshit

3. is the stem cell still alive? lel

4. FDA?
there's only 1 stem cell product approved by the FDA and it is hemocord.
http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerup...s/ucm286155.htm
also, there is not a single clinical trial on stem cell taken orally. your product is scam
scam
scam
scam

not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam
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That's why there are people who still buy. Believe every word the seller said. Giving the seller free car, free holiday. tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2015, 09:27 PM

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Oral capsule stem cell therapy.

Hope you are wiser now.
Human body assorb the live stem cell at intestinal guts.
Capsule membrane shealth the stem cells from our powerful stomach disgestive acids.

Do not presume and assume Swiss Medical retrives stem cells from human embryo. Those stem cells are cultivated from animal placenta commercially.

Since you are not well verse on what is stem cell, please consult the medical physician and or bio-scientist to open up your ignorance mind first.

Do you know our proffesor Stephen Hawking is still alive thanks to intensive stem cell therapy.

Resistance is Futile.

Humanity advancement is the ultimate goal.
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post Oct 19 2015, 09:22 AM

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The Truth About Cancer documentary. Once you watched it and know the real dirty secrets of chemo and pharmaceutical drugs, you will never set foot in the hospital again
Change your diet and lifestyle.

Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJAzQe7_0g

Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK_sX5ko8SE

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post Oct 19 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(freestyle @ Oct 19 2015, 09:22 AM)
The Truth About Cancer documentary. Once you watched it and know the real dirty secrets of chemo and pharmaceutical drugs, you will never set foot in the hospital again
Change your diet and lifestyle. 


Episode 1



Episode 2


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Corrected your youtube videos.

By the way what diet and lifestyle would you advocate then?
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:56 AM

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it depends on your mum's condition whether her body able to take it or not. My mum was diagnosed with bone cancer 16 years back and she went thru 4 operation to remove the bones and she recovered and is in good condition until 4 years back there's a tumor in her ovary and undergo another operation again.

3 years back, again diagnose with bone cancer and this time its at the back bone stage 4. She went thru radiotherapy for 10 times and gets weaker but the cancer spread even worst.

We (including herself) dowan to suffer anymore and we decide to spend the rest of her time together. Cancer is the worst disease
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QUOTE(xxxJOxxx @ Dec 21 2015, 10:56 AM)
it depends on your mum's condition whether her body able to take it or not. My mum was diagnosed with bone cancer 16 years back and she went thru 4 operation to remove the bones and she recovered and is in good condition until 4 years back there's a tumor in her ovary and undergo another operation again.

3 years back, again diagnose with bone cancer and this time its at the back bone stage 4. She went thru radiotherapy for 10 times and gets weaker but the cancer spread even worst.

We (including herself) dowan to suffer anymore and we decide to spend the rest of her time together. Cancer is the worst disease
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Might you try a change in diet as a last resort? The side effects are minimal apart from feeling weaker as the body goes thru detoxing. Pardon my blunt honesty. Conventional modern medicine use chemotherapy as the first and only option of treatment. I want to suggest that you do your own research instead of relying on doctors to help cure your mum. Get to know yourself why cancer occurs and what the body is actually doing when the cancer accumulates into tumors. This is how I get to know that cancer can be cured thru change in diet and lifestyle.
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QUOTE(iimcrystal @ Oct 8 2015, 03:08 AM)
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THIS IS WHAT I MEANT ABOUT CHEMOTHERAPY  laugh.gif  nod.gif  notworthy.gif
my mom lifestyle b4 cancer
coffee x 2 pack + cigarette + lack of sleep + over stressed + lack of appetites + stubborn to check up  :x  shakehead.gif
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I know its been years this tread is active but i just found out my dad got bladder cancer 2 days ago and im activity looking for solution and how to help him .
My dad is the most health conscious person i know.
He dont smoke , dont eat fast foods , dont eat high fat oily foods , exercise every morning , no alkohol , eats lots of supplements , drinks apple cider vineger every morning , practice 16/8 fasting everyday and yet ... he still get cancer. I really dunno what to say.
He went for CT scan yesterday and today 3pm he will followup with the dr on the result and next step.
I am devastated . I mean i know everyone say eat healthy and change livestyle but my dad is already that ... what else he did wrong or what else he can do.
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QUOTE(babyorganic @ Jun 18 2020, 12:26 PM)
I know its been years this tread is active but i just found out my dad got bladder cancer 2 days ago and im activity looking for solution and how to help him .
My dad is the most health conscious person i know.
He dont smoke , dont eat fast foods , dont eat high fat oily foods , exercise every morning , no alkohol , eats lots of supplements , drinks apple cider vineger every morning , practice 16/8 fasting everyday and yet ... he still get cancer. I really dunno what to say.
He went for CT scan yesterday and today 3pm he will followup with the dr on the result and next step.
I am devastated . I mean i know everyone say eat healthy and change livestyle but my dad is already that ... what else he did wrong or what else he can do.
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Hope is not lost yet. If it's early stage, the survival chance will be high. To be frank, having a healthy lifestyle only lowers the risk of getting cancer. There are other ways that could contribute to the development of cancer, e.g. acquired genetic mutation(mainly from chemical radiation), inherited genetic mutation(family background), etc. Don't stress yourself excessively otherwise, it'd be hard for you to give supportive care to your father and may affect you and your father's mental health which leads to more problems.
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QUOTE(babyorganic @ Jun 18 2020, 12:26 PM)
I know its been years this tread is active but i just found out my dad got bladder cancer 2 days ago and im activity looking for solution and how to help him .
My dad is the most health conscious person i know.
He dont smoke , dont eat fast foods , dont eat high fat oily foods , exercise every morning , no alkohol , eats lots of supplements , drinks apple cider vineger every morning , practice 16/8 fasting everyday and yet ... he still get cancer. I really dunno what to say.
He went for CT scan yesterday and today 3pm he will followup with the dr on the result and next step.
I am devastated . I mean i know everyone say eat healthy and change livestyle but my dad is already that ... what else he did wrong or what else he can do.
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Is he on vegan diet? If not, then that's the thing that he hasnt done

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