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 Colon cancer, stage 3, To chemo, or not to chemo?

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SUSslimey
post Oct 2 2015, 06:30 PM


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QUOTE(iimcrystal @ Oct 2 2015, 04:00 PM)
Hi everyone biggrin.gif

So my mom was diagnosed with mucus pass in the ovaries during 1st week of july 2p15
Took her to the hospital, HUKM/UKM at selangor
and clean the stomach from the mucus pass and removed the "exploded" ovary(total of 2 surgeries)
Rested in the hospital for 1 week
And was sent home to rest for 3 week while waiting for the report on the medical research of the ovray to detect any cancer
Good news is that there's none
Bad new.....

After 3 week, near the 1st week of August
My mom felt a pain in the stomach
And she drive to the hospital @ Pantai for check up
And my dad got a call from her asking him to visit her

So he bring me and my sibling to visit her to know what happened
And my mom was looking dreadful, face green, weak body
My aunts visited
And the doctor said she need to undergo surgery ASAP
My aunt asked why(i wss at home while they stayed back)
The doctor does not gave a solid reason
And while my mom was resting
One of the nurses was talking about packages promotion on surgeries (WTF man? Patient ady sakit kuat kuat lagi bagi promo?l
My aunt just scolded her and hurriedly sent my mom back to ukm

And ukm checked and they feared that it might be cancer and started surgeries(3rd surgeries)
And is was cancer, Colon cancer / bowel cancer (sorry got mixed up, gonna reread the report when i get my hand on it)

The doctor removed the entire big intestine and make a hole on her stomach and put the small intestine as a new excretion system with a donut bag(a bag with a hole that shaped like a donut for the small intestine to excrete)

And after a month, my mom lost 30kg in a span of 2 month
But she been eating healthy(fish, rice, white noodles, vege, acidic fruit[lemon & orange from what i saw])
and we received the report
And the doctor suggested doing chemotherapy

But with my mom condition  of losing body fats, 4 pint of blood lost during the surgeries, and she has a bad case of depression/lack of moods

I honestly don't think she should take chemotherapy

But i don't know what else to do to help her sad.gif
Anyone know what else to do beside doing chemotherapy?
I heard the sideeffect is terrible and dangerous
Anyone has these kind of experience?
I feel really insecure and helpless and worried about my mom mental well being.

Sorry for the long posts sweat.gif
Just thought it best to write out everything incase of specific information needed :sweats:
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ok.........i roughly get the idea......
most likely 3 weeks ago got rupture of the wall of ?large intestine causing peritonitis......and most probably the doctors did a CT and decided to cut out a portion(unlikely to be the entire large intestine) of the ?large intestine and then take out the proximal loop of large intestine to do colostomy.
the staging is most likely by CT and visualisation during the operation.

i am curious about the histopathology report that mention the cancer.......the type of specimen and whether the margin is clear....
if the margin is not clear, there's a possibility of needing another surgery...

ok, here's my suggestion : the doctor that suggest you chemo is most likely a surgeon his knowledge in chemo or not is rather limited. just bring your mom and family members to go talk to the oncologist in charge for the options, and whether your mom is suitable for chemo.
SUSslimey
post Oct 3 2015, 01:58 AM


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QUOTE(sportivo @ Oct 3 2015, 01:22 AM)
if you think stem cell is a scam.....
why President Barrack Obama approved feds funding for stem cell research in 2009?
http://stemcells.nih.gov/policy/Pages/Default.aspx
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1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell.

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human?

3. is the stem cell still alive?


scam
scam
scam

not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam
SUSslimey
post Oct 5 2015, 12:06 AM


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QUOTE(leanneleong @ Oct 4 2015, 11:34 PM)
Hi,

My friend saw your post and he forwarded it to me today. I hope it is still not too late to help.

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As you know chemo greatly weaken the immune system. Not many people can stand the side effects, in fact many patients died because of this. If your mom wants to go for chemo, please let her on Transfer Factors, so that the side effects can be reduced. As Transfer Factors are able to strengthen body's immune system, it is able to protect chemo patient's body from opportunistic infections. Transfer Factors are also able to help patients who have done the surgery to get well faster.

I am not a doctor, but my cousin sister died of breast cancer and I saw how bad was the chemo impact on her. She couldn't survive as her body was too weak. I couldn't remember how many times she was in critical situation due to bad infections. I really hope your mom can be one of the miracle cases that I have heard about and happened around the people whom I know.

I know doctors who have recommended Transfer Factors to their cancer patients and have had many success cases. I can get you and your mom to speak to one of them. Please, I sincerely ask you, get a second opinion from doctors who believe in alternate medicine and natural supplementation. You wouldn't regret, I assure you.

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Regards
Leanne
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a word of caution :
currently the scientific evidence is insufficient to say whether transfer factor is helpful
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/...ansfer%20factor

also, i have been searching for the " clinically proven to be able to boost our body's immune system and increase Natural Killer Cell activity "
i search high and low and this is what i found :

Provides powerful immune system support*
• Stimulates Natural Killer (NK) cell activity by 437%*†
• Supports the immune system's natural ability to recognize, respond to,
and remember potential health threats*
• Provides concentrated, certified 4Life Transfer Factor®
• Now 25% more concentrated*

notice the * behind each sentence.........
then i look down : *THESE STATEMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN EVALUATED BY THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION. THESE PRODUCTS ARE NOT INTENDED TO DIAGNOSE, TREAT, CURE, OR PREVENT ANY DISEASE
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&es...uzOCUuvE1AIJKLg


SUSslimey
post Oct 5 2015, 06:51 PM


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QUOTE(iimcrystal @ Oct 5 2015, 05:58 PM)
Hii icehart
Thanks for reply and comment on my post
Sees your name almost every post 😂

The doctor have to chop it off due to the cancer grow too large in it; about 8 cm?

We currently tried to avoid chemo
Due to being low rate of success rate and/due to
The weakening of the body and killing the healthy cells(not all, but worried might be more than the targeted cells)

Now her diet consists of mainly vegetable and fish as only meat source

Thank for the vid (òuó☆)
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spoken to an oncologist already?
at least go talk to one.
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post Oct 7 2015, 02:20 PM


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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Oct 7 2015, 12:26 PM)
You are headed in the right direction, thats why an all vegan diet has been proven to cure a lot of common diseases, including cancer.
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Please provide evidence of case where by a person with proven case of cancer got cured of cancer without any surgery , chemo, radiotherapy.

Otherwise it is just a misleading statement.
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post Oct 7 2015, 03:22 PM


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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 7 2015, 02:58 PM)
Here you go.

First, patients suffering glioma and had surgery but surgery didn't manage to remove all. Traditionally will go for chemo but they took KD instead.
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/7/1/33

Second, read the first paragraph
http://www.jlr.org/content/early/2014/02/0...046797.full.pdf

Third
http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-man-...nal-lung-cancer
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First link : had usage of both chemo and radiotherapy.
2nd link: only animal study.
3rd link: not a science journal.

Conclusion: keto diet may help, together with other conventional therapy
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post Oct 10 2015, 10:10 PM


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QUOTE(sportivo @ Oct 10 2015, 09:57 PM)
1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell.

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human?

3. is the stem cell still alive?


scam
scam
scam

not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam
SUSslimey
post Oct 11 2015, 01:21 AM


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QUOTE(sportivo @ Oct 11 2015, 12:58 AM)
Ramjade, if you think that Purtier is costly then you should define your prefer price for stem cell therapy.

Just for sharing purpose, Switzerland is charging customer US$30K for stem cell injection therapy.

Maybe you should study and research more on the genuine Purtier product and its real cost and benefits before you shoot blanks with all the wild allegation and pessimistic approach.

Purtier is certified by FDA.
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1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell. saying that is stem cell therapy is bullshit

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human? more bullshit

3. is the stem cell still alive? lel

4. FDA?
there's only 1 stem cell product approved by the FDA and it is hemocord.
http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerup...s/ucm286155.htm
also, there is not a single clinical trial on stem cell taken orally. your product is scam


scam
scam
scam

not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam



 

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