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post Oct 26 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:39 PM)
So by paying more than 2% in sales fee, do I get a free papaya massage and ping pong treatment?  drool.gif  brows.gif
Yikes, I never thought of that before. I think I will stick with FSM and do "self service".
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Vanguard, you are sick person.....
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post Oct 26 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 26 2015, 03:43 PM)
Vanguard, you are sick person.....
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Thank you. I will take that as a compliment, Xuzen. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 26 2015, 03:39 PM)
CMF is just like a UT that take your money and buy up money market instruments from the debt market. The instruments they buy include but not limited to Bank Guarantee, Letter of Credit, Banker Acceptance or Creditor guarantee.

Technically the trustee of the fund holds the money, the UTMC manages the money and FSM is the nominee of your account. Confuse? Sorry you have to ask....

There are lots of CMF. Up to you lu suka mana satu. FSM uses RHB punya right?

wrt credit this credit that.... sorry I tak tau pasal itu coz' I am on the "hand holding, molly......" package.  don't give a darn about credit this credit that.

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wongmunkeong,  my advisor is a guy... I completely like his hold-holding & mollycoddling, I am not sexist.
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oi salah la

RHB CMF only can invest in FDs, REPOs and bank deposits. BG and LCs takda la
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post Oct 26 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 26 2015, 02:51 PM)
Asked and thy shall be enlightened!

IFast = FSM = same company, diff division.

With IFAST you need to go through agent Licensed financial planner. The agent Licensed financial planner will then hold your hand softly and gently, mollycuddly with you to walk the investment mine-field together-gether.

With FSM, nobody gives a SH1T abt you! Everything you kow-tim yourself from filing up the forms to submitting it.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 26 2015, 03:13 PM)
For the "hold your hand softly and gently, mollycuddly with you to walk together-gether along the investment minefield" package it is 3% upfront + 1.5 % annual advisory fee. Thereafter any switching will be free of charge.

For the "Nobody gives a SH1T" package: 2% up front and 1% or RM 25.00 per switching whichever is larger. Sometimes, FSM when biz is down, may give you for a limited time 0% sales charge.

p/s for the "hold your hand softly and gently, mollycuddly with you to walk together-gether along the investment minefield" package, the 3%and 1.5% can be negotiated if you show how BIG your cheque amount.

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Thanks, this gives clearer picture now.

So can I conclude that iFast is for big player or someone do a lot of switching while FSM is for small player or someone rarely switch? I think it's good enough for me to start with FSM first.

Appreciate your kind explanation very much.



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post Oct 26 2015, 07:31 PM

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Hi sifu Sekalian, I've been following this thread for a while and intend to invest soon. Considering I'm looking at overseas funds, would the current exchange rate affect my investment directly meaning that I would stand to gain more if I invested when myr becomes stronger?
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post Oct 26 2015, 07:34 PM

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Titanic fund hit all time high NAV last Friday at 0.8896
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QUOTE(Jaschong @ Oct 26 2015, 07:31 PM)
Hi sifu Sekalian, I've been following this thread for a while and intend to invest soon. Considering I'm looking  at overseas funds, would the current exchange rate affect my investment directly meaning that I would stand to gain more if I invested when myr becomes stronger?
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No, it's the other way around.

Imagine this...

A shirt is worth USD100 then
U bought it by RM300 (USD1:RM3)

Now MYR WEAKENED
USD4.50:RM1

The shirt is still worth USD100
But in Ringgit, it is now worth RM450

Get your forex understanding right...

U want to buy foreign assets when Ringgit is strong
And u hope that Ringgit weakens AFTER u have already bought the foreign assets

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 26 2015, 07:34 PM)
Titanic fund hit all time high NAV last Friday at 0.8896
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And I'm starting to get pissed off with Aladdin fund...

Titans go up, YET Aladdin went down shakehead.gif
Already many times I observed this phenomenon
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 26 2015, 07:37 PM)
And I'm starting to get pissed off with Aladdin fund...

Titans go up, YET Aladdin went down shakehead.gif
Already many times I observed this phenomenon
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Time to dump Aladdin? Any substitute to recommend?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 26 2015, 07:38 PM)
Time to dump Aladdin? Any substitute to recommend?
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Titans lor tongue.gif

The other Islamic global equity fund, also consistently underperformed its benchmark:
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYAMOGIF.pdf

I think I'll keep, but won't top up anymore. Keep it as a balance against Titans...
At least when global banks kaboom, Aladdin won't be affected

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 26 2015, 07:46 PM
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post Oct 26 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 26 2015, 04:02 PM)
oi salah la

RHB CMF only can invest in FDs, REPOs and bank deposits. BG and LCs takda la
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Sorry ar sorry ar.... I must have assume CMF = Money Mkt Fund

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post Oct 26 2015, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 26 2015, 07:37 PM)
And I'm starting to get pissed off with Aladdin fund...

Titans go up, YET Aladdin went down shakehead.gif
Already many times I observed this phenomenon
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Ini pasalah tak nak dengar cakap bang Algozen™...

p/s Have never recommend alladin before.

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post Oct 26 2015, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 26 2015, 07:34 PM)
Titanic fund hit all time high NAV last Friday at 0.8896
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Gone up so much ar?... I will put a neutral view on it now.

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 26 2015, 07:34 PM)
Titanic fund hit all time high NAV last Friday at 0.8896
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 26 2015, 08:23 PM)
Ini pasalah tak nak dengar cakap bang Algozen™...

p/s Have never recommend alladin before.

Xuzen
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but u will alhamdulilah allahuakbar when financials fall, cos Aladdin got zero financials exposure tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sugarcookies @ Oct 26 2015, 04:15 PM)
Thanks, this gives clearer picture now.

So can I conclude that iFast is for big player or someone do a lot of switching while FSM is for small player or someone rarely switch? I think it's good enough for me to start with FSM first.

Appreciate your kind explanation very much.
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Your view is wrong. Big or ikan-bilis also can use IFast or / and FSM. It is not about big or small player.

IFast is like a full service fine dining restaurant with nicely dressed waiter serving you.

FSM is like a public food court... you sendiri order, bayar kat counter, ambil sudu / garpu pun sendiri... lepas makan, clear up your own piring / mangkuk. Understand?

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 26 2015, 08:29 PM)
Your view is wrong. Big or ikan-bilis also can use IFast or / and FSM. It is not about big or small player.

IFast is like a full service fine dining restaurant with nicely dressed waiter serving you.

FSM is like a public food court... you sendiri order, bayar kat counter, ambil sudu / garpu pun sendiri... lepas makan, clear up your own piring / mangkuk. Understand?

Xuzen
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Another view is better -

iFast account is like buffet dimsum, eat as much as u can
FSM account is like a la carte dimsum, u eat how many tray u pay how many tray
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post Oct 26 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 26 2015, 07:36 PM)
No, it's the other way around.

Imagine this...

A shirt is worth USD100 then
U bought it by RM300 (USD1:RM3)

Now MYR WEAKENED
USD4.50:RM1

The shirt is still worth USD100
But in Ringgit, it is now worth RM450

Get your forex understanding right...

U want to buy foreign assets when Ringgit is strong
And u hope that Ringgit weakens AFTER u have already bought the foreign assets
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What I'm concerned was that I would gain less if MYR becomes stronger after I invested my money. Thanks for the explanation smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2015, 09:13 PM

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rclxm9.gif phew! what a relieve....finally switched out my RBH Emerging Opp Fund (was one time in the recommended fund list)....to Asian Total Return
this fund really can make me hate love it....fall MUCH faster than EISC and climb MUCH slower than EISC too.....
moves on...moves on...
btw...just checked...my portfolio ROI is at highest but my IRR is NOT... mad.gif
hopefully changes to HW JPN Growth and Asian Total Return this month would be able to enable better IRR% next month and beyond at a volatility that I can swallow too sweat.gif sweat.gif


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