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albert611
post Feb 19 2016, 11:20 AM

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Alright guys please help me with this one

Budget: rm 3200

Purpose : multimedia and gaming.

Games & softwares : dota 2

Preferences : i multi task a lot so i need pc that can cope with my alt+tab ing without lags or delays

* can help recommend monitor too? Thx (3,200 budget not include monitor)

* currently switching from laptop to pc

* can u pls remark what is the item u are listing out like
Intel i5 (processor) - rm xxx

Location : selangor , kl

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post Feb 19 2016, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Feb 19 2016, 11:20 AM)
Alright guys please help me with this one

Budget: rm 3200

Purpose : multimedia and gaming.

Games & softwares : dota 2

Preferences : i multi task a lot so i need pc that can cope with my alt+tab ing without lags or delays

* can help recommend monitor too? Thx (3,200 budget not include monitor)

* currently switching from laptop to pc

* can u pls remark what is the item u are listing out like
  Intel i5 (processor) - rm xxx

Location : selangor , kl
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Whats your budget for monitor?
terence_nwb
post Feb 19 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(GOO @ Feb 19 2016, 10:20 AM)
Hey guys. I am trying to build my first gaming rig.

Appreciate if you could help me look into the below:

1. MSI B150M Bazooka
2. i5 6500
3. Palit GTX 970 Jetstream
4. Cooler Master B600
5. Kingston PC4 2133 8GB
6. Kingston 240GB V300
7. WD 1TB 64MB (Blue) Sata3
8. Windows 10 Home
9. Optical drive <--- Do I need a Blu ray reader? or DVD is just enough?
10. Casing <--- Need suggestion. As cheap as possible, without any LED light.

My budget is S$ 1500. As per the above, the price I checked by pricelist of HWZ is approx S$1500, but a bit more. I would like to push the price to exact S$1500 or below.

I am also open to other suggestion if there is any changes for the list I listed above.

Thanks
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S$1500 is around RM 4500 as of today's exchange rate, I am not living in SG so I will be using MY price as reference.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 844
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 399
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1550
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD - RM 385
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Samsung DVD ROM - RM 62
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 180

Total: RM 4244 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 299

Total: RM 4543

Some suggestions on your current build:
1. Avoid Kingston V300 if possible due to this reason
2. Go for a more decent PSU, not saying B600 is bad, just the internal components aren't the top notch quality.
3. More and more people started to abandon DVD ROM now, so if you just want the DVD ROM for Windows OS installation, then I recommend you to use USB stick instead, much faster and save you some money.
albert611
post Feb 19 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Feb 19 2016, 11:27 AM)
Whats your budget for monitor?
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Tbh i dont know anything about monitor. Hopefully around rm 500 - 600? But do suggest any monitor that is bang for bucks.

And yeah 1 more thing to add, i prefer window 8.1 so please recommend those with window 8. Thx
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post Feb 19 2016, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 18 2016, 09:03 PM)
Of course can but if only for gaming then i7 won't benefit you by a large margin compare to i5.
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one more question, Palit GTX960 Single Fan 2GB DDR5 will better or Asus GTX960 4GB GDDR5 Turbo will be better?
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post Feb 19 2016, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 19 2016, 11:29 AM)
S$1500 is around RM 4500 as of today's exchange rate, I am not living in SG so I will be using MY price as reference.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 844
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 399
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1550
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD - RM 385
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Samsung DVD ROM - RM 62
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 180

Total: RM 4244 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Windows 10 Home OEM - RM 299

Total: RM 4543

Some suggestions on your current build:
1. Avoid Kingston V300 if possible due to this reason
2. Go for a more decent PSU, not saying B600 is bad, just the internal components aren't the top notch quality.
3. More and more people started to abandon DVD ROM now, so if you just want the DVD ROM for Windows OS installation, then I recommend you to use USB stick instead, much faster and save you some money.
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Hi Thanks for the reply. Noted on the V300. As for DVD rom, I am considering it because I still prefer to have a physical copy of my game. So, I am buying the DVD rom for installation of games.

Will do some review again.

Thanks
GOO
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post Feb 19 2016, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(leokj @ Feb 19 2016, 11:49 AM)
one more question, Palit GTX960 Single Fan 2GB DDR5 will better or Asus GTX960 4GB GDDR5 Turbo will be better?
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That's 2GB vs 4GB, of course the 4GB one is better and will have advantage when the game uses more than 2GB VRAM.

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post Feb 19 2016, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Feb 19 2016, 11:20 AM)
Alright guys please help me with this one

Budget: rm 3200

Purpose : multimedia and gaming.

Games & softwares : dota 2

Preferences : i multi task a lot so i need pc that can cope with my alt+tab ing without lags or delays

* can help recommend monitor too? Thx (3,200 budget not include monitor)

* currently switching from laptop to pc

* can u pls remark what is the item u are listing out like
  Intel i5 (processor) - rm xxx

Location : selangor , kl

Tbh i dont know anything about monitor. Hopefully around rm 500 - 600? But do suggest any monitor that is bang for bucks.

And yeah 1 more thing to add, i prefer window 8.1 so please recommend those with window 8. Thx
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If you are using exclusive fullscreen mode in games, then alt + tab surely will delay, if you want almost instant alt + tab, use fullscreen windowed mode, but performance will likely to be affected but not much.

Dota 2 is not hardware demanding so I will only include a GPU that can max it out at 60 FPS (save cost), if you intend to run other triple A titles, then upgrade to at least GTX960/R9 380 for better gaming experience (higher FPS).

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 779
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 196
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 ZT-70605-10M - RM 509
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 185
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 2904 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Windows 8.1 Home OEM - RM 299

Total: RM 3203
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post Feb 19 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 19 2016, 12:12 PM)
If you are using exclusive fullscreen mode in games, then alt + tab surely will delay, if you want almost instant alt + tab, use fullscreen windowed mode, but performance will likely to be affected but not much.

Dota 2 is not hardware demanding so I will only include a GPU that can max it out at 60 FPS (save cost), if you intend to run other triple A titles, then upgrade to at least GTX960/R9 380 for better gaming experience (higher FPS).

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 779
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 196
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 ZT-70605-10M - RM 509
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 185
BenQ GW2270 - RM 429

Total: RM 2904 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Windows 8.1 Home OEM - RM 299

Total: RM 3203
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Is it possible for me to switch to ssd instead of hdd

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post Feb 19 2016, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Feb 19 2016, 12:29 PM)
Is it possible for me to switch to ssd instead of hdd
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You can switch or add one alongside with HDD for file storage.
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post Feb 19 2016, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 19 2016, 12:41 PM)
You can switch or add one alongside with HDD for file storage.
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So does it increase the price if i change to ssd. And they say ssd is faster and quieter, right? Please bear with me , im total noob at these stuff haha.
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SDD help decide

need decide quick need to confirm order today/tomorrow.
-simple office use condition.
-must be reliable, less break down history
-speed not a concern as its ssd its already fast enough
-prefer cheaper if possible but not as important as reliable.

Here is my shortlist from the supplier whom going to built my PC (not much choice)
RM 209 Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB
RM 220 SAMSUNG 2.5” 650 SERIES 120GB SSD
RM 249 TRANSCEND 370S SERIES 128GB

I assume all are 3 year warranty.
Kingston Hyper x is cheap any good? but dont trust Kingston SSD since V300 bait/switch
Samsung 650 (3D V-NAND) not much is know with this product, but its samsung should be reliable?? probably bit slower
Cant find liteon 120GB version from my supplier

May concider upgrade.
RM 402 LITEON 900S 256GB SSD SATA3 (PX^^SCS-256L9S)
RM 396 LITEON 2.5“ MU2 240GB SOLID STATE DRIVE (PX-PE3-CE240)
RM 405 Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD SATA3 (SHFS37A/240G)

I could possibly buy SSD from another supplier if price is right, eg Sandisk, Liteon, evo 120gb version
any recommendation welcome.
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post Feb 19 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(albert611 @ Feb 19 2016, 12:52 PM)
So does it increase the price if i change to ssd. And they say ssd is faster and quieter, right? Please bear with me , im total noob at these stuff haha.
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Normally we only use SSD for OS and store some frequently used software for shorter access time, this is also suitable for low budget user.

If you want to replace your entire HDD with SSD (even for file storage), then you gonna need to prepare a lot of money, 1TB SSD will cost you at least 1k+.

For your case, I suggest you to add a 120GB SSD for your OS and Dota 2 game files, while keeping the 1TB HDD for file storage (video, music etc.)

Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229

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post Feb 19 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 19 2016, 01:29 PM)
Normally we only use SSD for OS and store some frequently used software for shorter access time, this is also suitable for low budget user.

If you want to replace your entire HDD with SSD (even for file storage), then you gonna need to prepare a lot of money, 1TB SSD will cost you at least 1k+.

For your case, I suggest you to add a 120GB SSD for your OS and Dota 2 game files, while keeping the 1TB HDD for file storage (video, music etc.)

Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
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Damn that its actually a great idea. Thx.

One more question, the etech u talked about, do they help me assemble all the stuff together or do I need to do it myself


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QUOTE(albert611 @ Feb 19 2016, 01:40 PM)
Damn that its actually a great idea. Thx.

One more question, the etech u talked about, do they help me assemble all the stuff together or do I need to do it myself
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They can assemble for you on the spot.
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post Feb 19 2016, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 19 2016, 01:47 PM)
They can assemble for you on the spot.
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Any charges?
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Feb 19 2016, 12:54 PM)
SDD help decide

need decide quick need to confirm order today/tomorrow.
-simple office use condition.
-must be reliable, less break down history
-speed not a concern as its ssd its already fast enough
-prefer cheaper if possible but not as important as reliable.

Here is my shortlist from the supplier whom going to built my PC (not much choice)
RM 209 Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB
RM 220 SAMSUNG 2.5” 650 SERIES 120GB SSD
RM 249 TRANSCEND 370S SERIES 128GB

I assume all are 3 year warranty.
Kingston Hyper x is cheap any good? but dont trust Kingston SSD since V300 bait/switch
Samsung 650 (3D V-NAND) not much is know with this product, but its samsung should be reliable?? probably bit slower
Cant find liteon 120GB version from my supplier

May concider upgrade.
RM 402 LITEON 900S 256GB SSD SATA3 (PX^^SCS-256L9S)
RM 396 LITEON 2.5“ MU2 240GB SOLID STATE DRIVE (PX-PE3-CE240)
RM 405 Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD SATA3 (SHFS37A/240G)

I could possibly buy SSD from another supplier if price is right, eg Sandisk, Liteon, evo 120gb version
any recommendation welcome.
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Kingston HyperX Fury will do, bought few units for my friends a month ago, no problem so far.
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post Feb 19 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 19 2016, 01:29 PM)
Normally we only use SSD for OS and store some frequently used software for shorter access time, this is also suitable for low budget user.

If you want to replace your entire HDD with SSD (even for file storage), then you gonna need to prepare a lot of money, 1TB SSD will cost you at least 1k+.

For your case, I suggest you to add a 120GB SSD for your OS and Dota 2 game files, while keeping the 1TB HDD for file storage (video, music etc.)

Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
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is it mainstream now to use a SSD for OS, and a HDD for storage? i plan to buy a desktop and use it at least 5 years without upgrade...
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QUOTE(albert611 @ Feb 19 2016, 01:48 PM)
Any charges?
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No additional charge last time, but not sure about now, I think it is still free, if they charge you then you can try to assemble it yourself at home if you know how to assemble all the parts, you can learn from YouTube if you don't know how to do it.
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QUOTE(szb @ Feb 19 2016, 01:49 PM)
is it mainstream now to use a SSD for OS, and a HDD for storage? i plan to buy a desktop and use it at least 5 years without upgrade...
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That's what people is doing now, SSD for OS and frequently used software and HDD for file storage.

Unless you are rich and willing to spend over 1k just for a 1TB SSD, if not then this is the way to go.

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