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 ILLEGEAR Z5 & Z7 Discussion Thread V2, ILLEGEAR Z7 is here!

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Instant_noodle
post Sep 13 2015, 09:51 AM

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the new metallic casing looks wicked

*looking at previous model in front*

*butt hurting experience intensifies*

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post Sep 13 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Sep 13 2015, 09:51 AM)
the new metallic casing looks wicked

*looking at previous model in front*

*butt hurting experience intensifies*

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post Sep 13 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 13 2015, 04:28 AM)
Vram doesnt give you gain .. The 6gb n 8gb variant of 970m n 980m doesnt make sense as ure still limited by gpu grunt power.

970m oced=770>960
980m oced<970=780ti
980m needs a 30-40% oc to be close to a stock 980.
The prob with 980m .. You can game ultra setting on 1080p but it just cant do very high settings@1440p.

This is based as a former titan black sli & 780ti sli user..

But ...Then again this was a first time i ever bought a gaming laptop. I was literally shocked how far mobile gpus has come. I dont trust reviewers in general but pascal mobile gpus will be atleast 20-30% improvement on this.

990m>980m sli >980.. Bless the dude who gets this gpu. i am guessing this will be the first pascal gpu.
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My setup a bit pricey but advise ya just get a asus ac 5ghz router.
So far on unifi routers i find them the best. For wifi aps.. apple airport extreme/express.
But end of the day ure gonna have ping issues with streamyx.. So theres just so much you can expect.
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how about TPLink routers? 5ghz means dual band right?

8mbps should be okay right the speed? just need a modem good enough to support 5 laptops, don't want people browsing facebook photo also causing ping spikes. shakehead.gif
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post Sep 13 2015, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 13 2015, 05:28 AM)
Vram doesnt give you gain .. The 6gb n 8gb variant of 970m n 980m doesnt make sense as ure still limited by gpu grunt power.

970m oced=770>960
980m oced<970=780ti
980m needs a 30-40% oc to be close to a stock 980.
The prob with 980m .. You can game ultra setting on 1080p but it just cant do very high settings@1440p.

This is based as a former titan black sli & 780ti sli user..

But ...Then again this was a first time i ever bought a gaming laptop. I was literally shocked how far mobile gpus has come. I dont trust reviewers in general but pascal mobile gpus will be atleast 20-30% improvement on this.

990m>980m sli >980.. Bless the dude who gets this gpu. i am guessing this will be the first pascal gpu.
BlizzardCraft
My setup a bit pricey but advise ya just get a asus ac 5ghz router.
So far on unifi routers i find them the best. For wifi aps.. apple airport extreme/express.
But end of the day ure gonna have ping issues with streamyx.. So theres just so much you can expect.
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Sure, the VRAM isn't a performance "increaser", but the increase in VRAM allows you to bypass certain limitations, like how much you can stuff in SYRIM games (the mods, essentially, which makes a huge difference). In the case of say, MXM based GPUs where 970M is 6GB VRAM and 980M is 8GBVRAM (not sure about the upcoming 990M, AFAIK it won't be cheap, and I doubt it'll be below 6GB VRAM for the MXM ones)


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post Sep 13 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 13 2015, 12:13 PM)
how about TPLink routers? 5ghz means dual band right?

8mbps should be okay right the speed? just need a modem good enough to support 5 laptops, don't want people browsing facebook photo also causing ping spikes.  shakehead.gif
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Had them before. They are too finicky. Asus ones are better.

QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 13 2015, 12:52 PM)
Sure, the VRAM isn't a performance "increaser", but the increase in VRAM allows you to bypass certain limitations, like how much you can stuff in SYRIM games (the mods, essentially, which makes a huge difference). In the case of say, MXM based GPUs where 970M is 6GB VRAM and 980M is 8GBVRAM (not sure about the upcoming 990M, AFAIK it won't be cheap, and I doubt it'll be below 6GB VRAM for the MXM ones)
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Its a redundant amount of vram for a gpu thats not powerful enough to game at 1440p at max.
Passable at 1080p but not maxed out. It needs atleast 100% more grunt to the likes of 980ti overclock etc.
Windows 10 n dx12 gonna make that even more pointless.
Actually i think mxm vram versions were meant for single compute etc ...definately no use for gaming at such low resolution at 1080p.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 13 2015, 01:37 PM
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post Sep 13 2015, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(zonan4 @ Sep 13 2015, 10:37 AM)
PM PrinceJ and your problem can be solve  nod.gif  brows.gif  drool.gif
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as in 1 to 1 exchange from previous plastic variant to aluminum one? brows.gif

still, i prefer the dual glowing lines on back lid the icon

*still investigating ways to pry open the lid and change LED color*

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 13 2015, 02:35 PM)
Had them before. They are too finicky. Asus ones are better.
Its a redundant amount of vram for a gpu thats not powerful enough to game at 1440p at max.
Passable at 1080p but not maxed out. It needs atleast 100% more grunt to the likes of 980ti overclock etc.
Windows 10 n dx12 gonna make that even more pointless.
Actually i think mxm vram versions were meant for single compute etc ...definately no use for gaming at such low resolution at 1080p.
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Still very much situational, perchance.


4k screens aren't exactly mainstream, and i'm talking about pure solid 60Hz / 120Hz ones on laptop devices. I don't see how today's current laptop GPUs (sans the 990M, since at this point its not yet mass produced yet) can even achieve a stable 60fps on all-out-ultra settings (like GTA 5) on 1440p, let alone 1080p (there are some really monster benchmarks using Clevo 980M sli systems on a desktop processor, but then again its not based on latest hardware revisions, and IIRC they're all based on 17" screens).

But back to the topic, 970M > 960M in the sense that the price you pay for the upgrade is worth the leap in the performance.
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post Sep 13 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 13 2015, 02:42 PM)
Still very much situational, perchance.
4k screens aren't exactly mainstream, and i'm talking about pure solid 60Hz / 120Hz ones on laptop devices. I don't see how today's current laptop GPUs (sans the 990M, since at this point its not yet mass produced yet) can even achieve a stable 60fps on all-out-ultra settings (like GTA 5) on 1440p, let alone 1080p (there are some really monster benchmarks using Clevo 980M sli systems on a desktop processor, but then again its not based on latest hardware revisions, and IIRC they're all based on 17" screens).

But back to the topic, 970M > 960M in the sense that the price you pay for the upgrade is worth the leap in the performance.
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how about 980m > 970m? worth the leap? iinw its about rm1.2k extra?
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 13 2015, 03:46 PM)
how about 980m > 970m? worth the leap? iinw its about rm1.2k extra?
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if you really need it. When I bought my laptop from Illegear 980M's difference to 970M was I think slightly cheaper, around RM1000 and slightly below.

If you ask me, might as well wait for the 990M to come out first before deciding whether to go between 970M or 980M, because a single 990M > 980MSLI... roughly nearing to Titan X kind of performance. When that comes out the 980M and 970M will drop. Even then 980M running at full power, you get some hiccups.
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post Sep 13 2015, 03:10 PM

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Hows the performance comparison between 1tb toshiba hssd vs 500gb seagate hssd?
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post Sep 13 2015, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 12 2015, 12:15 AM)
I think if i am not mistaken since illegear is custom
PrinceJ has done upgrades for soldered gpu. My guess limitation mobo bios etc to support that gpu.
Guessing here on the later part.. since unlocked gpu bioses are different for each notebooks eventhough there are the same gpu.

970m is a true desktop grade gpu. Equivalent to a gtx770 . Faster that a stock desktop 960.
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Hi cstkl1,

Nope the Z5 GPU cannot be upgraded after purchasing.

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post Sep 13 2015, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 13 2015, 12:13 PM)
how about TPLink routers? 5ghz means dual band right?

8mbps should be okay right the speed? just need a modem good enough to support 5 laptops, don't want people browsing facebook photo also causing ping spikes.  shakehead.gif
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The old ILLEGEAR Empire office was using TP Link AC router with 20Mbps, the router became quite buggy lately.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 13 2015, 02:42 PM)
Still very much situational, perchance.
4k screens aren't exactly mainstream, and i'm talking about pure solid 60Hz / 120Hz ones on laptop devices. I don't see how today's current laptop GPUs (sans the 990M, since at this point its not yet mass produced yet) can even achieve a stable 60fps on all-out-ultra settings (like GTA 5) on 1440p, let alone 1080p (there are some really monster benchmarks using Clevo 980M sli systems on a desktop processor, but then again its not based on latest hardware revisions, and IIRC they're all based on 17" screens).

But back to the topic, 970M > 960M in the sense that the price you pay for the upgrade is worth the leap in the performance.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 13 2015, 02:52 PM)
if you really need it. When I bought my laptop from Illegear 980M's difference to 970M was I think slightly cheaper, around RM1000 and slightly below.

If you ask me, might as well wait for the 990M to come out first before deciding whether to go between 970M or 980M, because a single 990M > 980MSLI... roughly nearing to Titan X kind of performance. When that comes out the 980M and 970M will drop. Even then 980M running at full power, you get some hiccups.
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agreed. Theres a big gap of performance between the desktop and mobile 970 vs 960/970m vs 960m.

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I just made my order for a Z5 yesterday. =3=
Oh well, uploading a filled-up credit card authorization form is rather unusual as far as the payment procedures go.
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Sep 13 2015, 05:05 PM)
I just made my order for a Z5 yesterday. =3=
Oh well, uploading a filled-up credit card authorization form is rather unusual as far as the payment procedures go.
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Sep 13 2015, 05:05 PM)
I just made my order for a Z5 yesterday. =3=
Oh well, uploading a filled-up credit card authorization form is rather unusual as far as the payment procedures go.
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Hi EX, can I have your order number via PM? The form is required by bank, but we are already working with Maybank to integrate the ebanking system on our website, it will take sometime since we do not use any 3rd party agent like ipay88.
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Hello.. may I ask to any Z5 users about the hinges of the laptop? Is it ok as in not easy to break or something when opening and closing it?

Planning to buy it but when I read the Z5 review and the part about the hinges makes me worried. Because I had a bad experience with a laptop with bad hinges not so long ago which kinda ruined the laptop screen. When sent for repair, the cost are high due to its aluminum cover included.. more than RM1k.. it kinda traumatized me.. 😵

Pls be kind to me as in this is my first time askin.. Noob in Tech stuff.. 😟
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QUOTE(StenCL @ Sep 13 2015, 07:37 PM)
Hello.. may I ask to any Z5 users about the hinges of the laptop? Is it ok as in not easy to break or something when opening and closing it?

Planning to buy it but when I read the Z5 review and the part about the hinges makes me worried. Because I had a bad experience with a laptop with bad hinges not so long ago which kinda ruined the laptop screen. When sent for repair, the cost are high due to its aluminum cover included.. more than RM1k.. it kinda traumatized me.. 😵

Pls be kind to me as in this is my first time askin.. Noob in Tech stuff.. 😟
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I just asked the same question in V1 of this thread, and my current laptop also hinge issue lol.
It should be fine, i just ordered one. The review u read with questionable hinge quality, is probably the oldest version of the Z5 i believe, where some parts are plastic. By now the 3rd generation it's already fully aluminium build.
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Sep 13 2015, 07:47 PM)
I just asked the same question in V1 of this thread, and my current laptop also hinge issue lol.
It should be fine, i just ordered one. The review u read with questionable hinge quality, is probably the oldest version of the Z5 i believe, where some parts are plastic. By now the 3rd generation it's already fully aluminium build.
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Ah I see. Thanks for your fast reply! Now that take off some bit of my worries.

Btw, I read in a thread somewhere that we could pay monthly? If it's true then how does it work? Do we receive it 1st then pay monthly or something?

Also if I asked for delivery to my house by post, how will the package be wrap in regards to prevent damage or prying hands?

Since I don't really have the leisure to travel much these days.. 😣
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On second thought, I might be better ask these to Illegear directly.. 😅

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