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 ILLEGEAR Z5 & Z7 Discussion Thread V2, ILLEGEAR Z7 is here!

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post Sep 12 2015, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Sep 11 2015, 08:48 PM)
Is it worth taking 970m over 960m if im gonna be using the lappy for 2-3 years. Planning to buy Z5 next month.
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imo quite worth, i've been thinking about that too before i've decided to take the 970.

if you can afford, why not? cause the graphic card will be soldered hence cant be change in the future.

and after looking at performance difference, there's quite a big gap between the 970 and 960.

and again, depends on what games you're playing also.
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post Sep 12 2015, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(zonan4 @ Sep 12 2015, 11:25 AM)
Damn I missed my Z5 already LOL....
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where's urs??
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post Sep 12 2015, 11:03 PM

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Hey guys, anybody familiar with routers ? I need two router,
One for a house with average 5 users (laptop+phone) streamyx 8mbps package.

Another a house with 2 users streamyx 2mbps

I game quite a lot hence, the ping matters to me a lot, would like to avoid lag if possible. (Dont have unifi option in my area sad.gif )
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post Sep 13 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 13 2015, 04:28 AM)
Vram doesnt give you gain .. The 6gb n 8gb variant of 970m n 980m doesnt make sense as ure still limited by gpu grunt power.

970m oced=770>960
980m oced<970=780ti
980m needs a 30-40% oc to be close to a stock 980.
The prob with 980m .. You can game ultra setting on 1080p but it just cant do very high settings@1440p.

This is based as a former titan black sli & 780ti sli user..

But ...Then again this was a first time i ever bought a gaming laptop. I was literally shocked how far mobile gpus has come. I dont trust reviewers in general but pascal mobile gpus will be atleast 20-30% improvement on this.

990m>980m sli >980.. Bless the dude who gets this gpu. i am guessing this will be the first pascal gpu.
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My setup a bit pricey but advise ya just get a asus ac 5ghz router.
So far on unifi routers i find them the best. For wifi aps.. apple airport extreme/express.
But end of the day ure gonna have ping issues with streamyx.. So theres just so much you can expect.
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how about TPLink routers? 5ghz means dual band right?

8mbps should be okay right the speed? just need a modem good enough to support 5 laptops, don't want people browsing facebook photo also causing ping spikes. shakehead.gif
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post Sep 13 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 13 2015, 02:42 PM)
Still very much situational, perchance.
4k screens aren't exactly mainstream, and i'm talking about pure solid 60Hz / 120Hz ones on laptop devices. I don't see how today's current laptop GPUs (sans the 990M, since at this point its not yet mass produced yet) can even achieve a stable 60fps on all-out-ultra settings (like GTA 5) on 1440p, let alone 1080p (there are some really monster benchmarks using Clevo 980M sli systems on a desktop processor, but then again its not based on latest hardware revisions, and IIRC they're all based on 17" screens).

But back to the topic, 970M > 960M in the sense that the price you pay for the upgrade is worth the leap in the performance.
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how about 980m > 970m? worth the leap? iinw its about rm1.2k extra?
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post Sep 14 2015, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Neomax3 @ Sep 14 2015, 10:08 PM)
We're the same bro.. 1tb hdd as main storage.. just got a little budget more so I opt to buy msata ssd.. thinking buying 120 or 250gb for the os,antivirus,office etc.. just want to choose something good with price/performance ratio..
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i also thinking about msata, but i think i will invest in another 8GB to make it 16GB ram.

whats ur ram now?
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post Sep 16 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 15 2015, 11:43 AM)
for ur case..better to get m sata although is it slightly expensive than ram..but ur speed will increase tremendously over the 1tb hdd..

8gb ram is enough at the moment for the apps and softwares at this time and in near future
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but only on start up right? cuz i don't turn off my lappy normally jz put it on sleep mode.

8GB i think not enough for me, cuz recently i on Lightroom 5 + Diablo 3 + League of Legends client running, and 5+ google chrome tabs >< then i notice the lag.
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post Sep 16 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 16 2015, 01:27 AM)
startup, app loading, file transfer speed, no defragment etc etc

http://asia.pcmag.com/storage-devices-revi...-the-difference
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if i were to run more programs on the same time then RAM would be the choice?
I used to have SSD on my old laptop, can't bring over cause it's not MSATA and only 126GB.
So far I still can get use to not using SSD lah
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post Sep 17 2015, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 16 2015, 07:37 PM)
ya bro..if want to run many apps at the same time then ram better..but it also depends, because i used to open many apps at the same time too and 8gb enough for me

for start up time, file transfer speeds  increase u can get msata (64gb enough)..then put your os in the msata and use the 1tb hdd as your storage for your files..with this your os speed will increase alot

u dont even need 128gb msata smile.gif ssd is quite similar to msata(the features and advantages) thats why i put that link in my earlier posts.

btw your hdd is the normal hdd or the sshd? blizzardcraft
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mine is SSHD, my illegear z5 left only msata slot D: else im going to use back my 128GB SSD liao.. T_T
lightroom eats RAM for breakfast,lunch and dinner D:
u mean the 64GB only for OS?

QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Sep 16 2015, 07:40 PM)
Yes, if you run a lot of programs at one time RAM is the better upgrade if u have limited budget; I went for RAM upgrade for this reason. I usually will have 2 browsers with dozen of tabs each open, photoshop/Lightroom open, torrent or any downloader, and bunch of other stuff running at the same time.
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photoshop + lightroom is enough to kill the RAM already >< so 16GB worked well for u?
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post Sep 17 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Sep 17 2015, 09:36 AM)
YUP..i forgot that z5 comes with sshd instead of the hdd..hence i recommended the msata with hdd configuration.

since come with sshd, no need dy..ram upgrade is enough
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SSHD and SSD difference so little meh? except the start up time, i tried counting the startup time, almost same as my SSD laptop ( part of the reason maybe cuz my z5 stli new ? )
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post Sep 17 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(willaw @ Sep 17 2015, 02:03 PM)
This is my short review on Z5 v3. My laptop was ready within 2 working days after I ordered it (No OS). I bought this laptop mainly for coding (I'm a programmer) and I don't really game a lot nowadays.

I have 2 mSata 256GB and installed Windows 10 Pro on the first drive, and Linux Mint 17.2 on the 2nd drive. So, for you folks thinking about running Linux, this laptop works well. Just install Nvidia proprietary drivers (if you want maximum performance) and you're good to go.

Keyboard. This is the number 1 priority for me when choosing a laptop. I type a lot (especially when I'm coding) and I own few mechanical keyboards (this shows how important the keyboard is to me). It does NOT flex at all, and feels really solid (perhaps the aluminum helps). I do feel Macbook Pro keyboards are better. I'm totally disappointed with Alienware laptop keyboards though!

Screen. I'm used to IPS screen at home (I have 2 Dell UltraSharp), so having IPS on a laptop screen is a definite welcome. However, the backlight bleed is quite obvious. But then again, you don't really notice it on everyday usage. The hinge is quite strong/solid. It's quite stiff to open and close the laptop lid. However, it's wobbly compared to Dell Latitude E6540. I suspect it's due to the hinge being placed closed to each other, where as the Dell's hinge is quite far apart in between. With that being said, it doesn't feel like it's going to break anytime soon. The black bezel is made of thick glossy plastic. It could scratch easily if you're not careful.

Storage. A laptop that allows 3 storage device? Awesome! The only downside is that m2 is replacing mSata (or so I heard), and I only realize this after I bought it. That's why I just get 2 mSata drive straight. No more worries. I can add a 2.5" 1TB drive for data storage.

This laptop runs really quiet. I can hardly hear the fan noise (compared to a Dell Latitude E6540).

I seriously dislike the trackpad. The buttons are stiff, and cursor movements are not smooth. But then again, not many laptop have really good trackpads anyway (Macbooks are the best!). It's worse if you run Linux. So I just use my Logitech bluetooth mouse. Given that gamers will be using their own gaming mouse anyway, this might not be a problem at all.

Battery is built-in, but can be removed. However, there's just so many screws to remove! I think there's at least 12 screws? The problem is if you're on the go, you can't easily swap battery. Now why is this an issue? Because the power supply (150W) is quite heavy. The 8-cell battery can last 4.5 hours on normal use.

Overall, I love this Z5. For the price, you're getting a lot compared to well-known brands such as Asus, Acer, MSI or Alienware.

Pros:

  • Solid keyboard. No flex.
  • Can install up to 3 HDD. (1 x 2.5", 2 x mSata)
  • Beautiful IPS screen. (There's backlight bleeding though, which is common.)
  • Feels solid overall.
  • LED lights on top cover and trackpad.
  • The anodized aluminum cover is really nice!
  • Charging USB port (I haven't test the output current though.)
  • Spdif digital output. (This is great as I have an external DAC/Amp.)
  • Ethernet, HDMI and VGA ports at the back. (Good for cable management.)
  • Runs cool and quiet!

Cons

  • Though the hinges are solid, the screen panel wobbles more compared to other laptops such as Dell Latitude E6540.
  • Thick black glossy plastic bezel could scratch easily.
  • Trackpad buttons are stiff, and cursor movements are not smooth. (But then again, good trackpad are rare. Macbook still dominates in this area.)

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mine scratched abit already T_T the black surface
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post Sep 18 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 18 2015, 05:14 PM)
The bios most probably contains updated IMEI . Advice you to update ure buos as win10 will update on auto the latest as well. This will improve performance of the cpu on many levels.

Dude the process takes like seconds. Dont be scared

Its not easy to brick bioses. Illegear has a bat file that just runs the commandline etc.

Advice you to upgrade with fresh uefi install. I have been running win 10 for awhile. Its really good on battery life and retains win 8.1 performance or outdoes it. I get about 5-6hours surfing/word stuff. Win 8 i need to disable wifi to get that kind of batter life. Generally on win 8.1 its about 4-5.
Win 8.1 is bad on startup n loads a lot of rubbish overtime n causes lag because its doing something with ure hdd/ssd. Win 10 doesnt. Win 8.1.. When u use system stuff or win apps. U close them but they are still running in the background. Win 10 closes them for good. Background processes on win 10 is less.
I noticed the switch between igpu to gpu with win 10 is smoother.

Win 10 is truly a must for notebooks.
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windows 10 that good? if for gamers leh?
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post Sep 18 2015, 09:32 PM

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btw why the maintenance in progress always there one ._.
i stopped it already, set schedule @ 5AM, few minutes later it start balik
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post Sep 26 2015, 03:23 PM

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the z5 doesn't support wireless 802.11ac right?

kinda blur about all these wireless stuff ><
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post Sep 26 2015, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(willaw @ Sep 26 2015, 03:32 PM)
okay thanks =) btw do u know about modem alot?

wanna ask if non dual band users will benefit from dual band modem..

and dual band / 802.11ac is 2 different thing right? 1 is modem signal, another one is the internet speed to ISP ?

and does 802.11ac works with streamyx? since streamyx is the inferior connection compared to Unifi
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post Sep 26 2015, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 26 2015, 08:26 PM)
It does. Max 866mbps. You need a ac 5ghz channel width 80 for ac aslonh ure router supports.

As for streamyx n unifi thats internet connection. Nothing to do with ISP
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i mean the 802.11AC , if the modem supports 802.11ac, does it need to see whether the connection the ISP provide got 802.11ac or not?
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post Sep 26 2015, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 26 2015, 09:11 PM)
wifi network is a internal network connection at ure home
Hence ac wifi nothing to do with isp
Ac wifi requirements for notebook is ure router wifi support.

Nothing to do with ISP connection. Are you asking whether ure streamyx/unifi router supports AC??

Default unifi doesnt. Only dual band.
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ohhh, so means dual band = signal strength between router and computer

802.11ac = speed management between modem and ISP? ( any ISP will do ? )
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post Sep 26 2015, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 26 2015, 10:58 PM)
no it between ure router and ure devices.

Dual band is 2.4ghz and 5ghz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11

Dude you should ask in the networking section of the forum.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 26 2015, 11:01 PM)
make it simple for you

whats the speed ure z5 is connected to ure wifi. Try going closest to ure router

also are you using default router.

if yes to second ure max is 300mbps and ure not on AC.. most probably N.
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is 802.11ac is speed between router and laptop, then dual band means? some say dual band will be faster and stable ? i asked there but there not much active people to reply me =(

yea the default router is N, innacom one.

thanks yea for telling me. i tried reading in the web but still cant understand completely
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post Sep 27 2015, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 26 2015, 11:15 PM)
Ok dual band
2.4ghz and 5ghz. There are at different wave length
So both has different channels. 5ghz is at a higher range.
Because we have a lot of things nowadays running in the air around us at 2.4.. Its not stable when you occupy the same channel.
5ghz is shorter range n its higher. Hence y ppl ask you to. Chances of interferance is less

A/b/g/n/ac etc are speeds and channel widths which affects connection speed.

Not sure about that router but unifi default is dual band N router. So max is 300mbps. And you can get that speed at 2.4ghz & 5ghz because it supports channel width 40 at 2.4 also.

AC requires channel width 80.
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okay now i get it already. thanks for the clarification.

but then the max speed is 300mbps for 802.11ac , but my streamyx only 8mbps, why getting the 802.11ac will improve my internet leh? hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2015, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Sep 27 2015, 02:12 AM)

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sorry to bother you again >< as for malaysia currently, the streamyx 8mbps max speed only around 8.5mbps upload speed base on speedtest.net

how would i benefit from the 802.11AC router which provides much more transfer speed? since from ISP its already limited 8mbps

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