Btw running shadowplay record So fps kindda drop by 5-7.

Real world game nvr dropped below 42.
Seriously heavy usage of cpu.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 11 2015, 11:37 PM

I think if i am not mistaken since illegear is custom
PrinceJ has done upgrades for soldered gpu. My guess limitation mobo bios etc to support that gpu.
Guessing here on the later part.. since unlocked gpu bioses are different for each notebooks eventhough there are the same gpu.

970m is a true desktop grade gpu. Equivalent to a gtx770 . Faster that a stock desktop 960.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 12 2015, 12:17 AM

Vram doesnt give you gain .. The 6gb n 8gb variant of 970m n 980m doesnt make sense as ure still limited by gpu grunt power.

970m oced=770>960
980m oced<970=780ti
980m needs a 30-40% oc to be close to a stock 980.
The prob with 980m .. You can game ultra setting on 1080p but it just cant do very high settings@1440p.

This is based as a former titan black sli & 780ti sli user..

But ...Then again this was a first time i ever bought a gaming laptop. I was literally shocked how far mobile gpus has come. I dont trust reviewers in general but pascal mobile gpus will be atleast 20-30% improvement on this.

990m>980m sli >980.. Bless the dude who gets this gpu. i am guessing this will be the first pascal gpu.
BlizzardCraft
My setup a bit pricey but advise ya just get a asus ac 5ghz router.
So far on unifi routers i find them the best. For wifi aps.. apple airport extreme/express.
But end of the day ure gonna have ping issues with streamyx.. So theres just so much you can expect.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 13 2015, 07:08 AM

Had them before. They are too finicky. Asus ones are better.

Its a redundant amount of vram for a gpu thats not powerful enough to game at 1440p at max.
Passable at 1080p but not maxed out. It needs atleast 100% more grunt to the likes of 980ti overclock etc.
Windows 10 n dx12 gonna make that even more pointless.
Actually i think mxm vram versions were meant for single compute etc ...definately no use for gaming at such low resolution at 1080p.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 13 2015, 01:37 PM

agreed. Theres a big gap of performance between the desktop and mobile 970 vs 960/970m vs 960m.

Desktop .. Did a clean uefi install windows 10 pro 64bit.
Luckily from my previous w7 n the way i manage things. Exact replica of 8.1..

So far hmmm noticed a few games.. My cpu is stressed more. But abit hard to gauge compare to what i see with z5. W10 z5 cpu temps frequently higher than gpu.
Wasnt like that with 8.1.

Anybody else notice the difference??


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 14 2015, 05:23 PM

The bios most probably contains updated IMEI . Advice you to update ure buos as win10 will update on auto the latest as well. This will improve performance of the cpu on many levels.

Dude the process takes like seconds. Dont be scared

Its not easy to brick bioses. Illegear has a bat file that just runs the commandline etc.

Advice you to upgrade with fresh uefi install. I have been running win 10 for awhile. Its really good on battery life and retains win 8.1 performance or outdoes it. I get about 5-6hours surfing/word stuff. Win 8 i need to disable wifi to get that kind of batter life. Generally on win 8.1 its about 4-5.
Win 8.1 is bad on startup n loads a lot of rubbish overtime n causes lag because its doing something with ure hdd/ssd. Win 10 doesnt. Win 8.1.. When u use system stuff or win apps. U close them but they are still running in the background. Win 10 closes them for good. Background processes on win 10 is less.
I noticed the switch between igpu to gpu with win 10 is smoother.

Win 10 is truly a must for notebooks.



This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 18 2015, 05:28 PM

Good. Seeing better cpu utilization in arkham knight, project cars and dirt rally.

So far no side effect. The good thing is z5 cooling is good enough to handle it.

Side experiment. Also this should be the referal for actual cpu load performance on a z5

Ambient Temp 27C. Not in a AC room deiling fan. .Default Fan on notebook. I found making it at this point max fan just brings temps 2-3C So its pretty well optimized in the bios by illegear. Bar top is made of quartz.



This is not temp throttle

Its tdp throttle.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 19 2015, 02:24 AM

Z5s

Dude dont worry about temps with turbo boost. Enable it.

Ure cpu will throttle down based on tdp load. Same goes for gpu. But again depends on the fps you want.

For temps the component that has the highest risk factor of damage over time are the vrams on the gpu followed by ram. They dont have a high operating temp. Cooling pads are mainly uses not to assist temps for gpu & cpu but to cool the notebook chasis ( heat emmited from heatsinks)

Use it if ure not in a good ventilated area.

When i used my z5 for that week.. Had to use it at almost jungle like place. Temps were fine. Still in the 80s. Whats important for any notebook is the surface you put ure notebook on. I tend to find glass/stone tables.

Ventilation & surface is the key.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 22 2015, 07:50 PM

Tips for laptops with haswell

1. Use Hibernate and not hybrid sleep/sleep. This is zero cost to bat.
2. Use min cpu at 0% for powercfg presets. Haswell has IVR thats super duper fast that can reduce voltage to zero with C6 or was it C7.
3. Enable Hibernate on close of lid/after sometime. I disable sleep totally.
4. There is no need to shutdown.

Comp starts off wherever i left before in seconds. The battery we have are lithium polys. I have not started the laptop in 2 months.. and just start from hibernate.. battery still in 90s
Stuff like cover in cloth/bed/mummy&wifey mishaps no issue.

Willaw
Thats pretty quick line issue. Luckily illegear custom and princej and crew are handson to change that. Benefits of illegear. Thats y i find it odd ppl in sales thread asking me about warantty with trade in with asus. I tell them asus/msi warantty is suspect.. not illegear.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 22 2015, 10:01 PM

MSI afterburner

just use youtube..

dropbox is freaking slow

atleast onedrive would have been better.

Alienware desktop build quality.. Equivalent to garbage can.

Pretty cheap stuff they use in it.


My opinion Build quality laptops..
Apple
Asus rog 17s
Giga lines looks good.. Too early to tell
Msi GTs
Clevos 7xx/8xx Ds
Lenovo Thinkpads X series

Z5 is 70:30 Inside components looks well build. Caps etc.
compare that with other compal nl8s u find out there.
Base etc good build.
Its just that glossy screen but seriously any more solid or thicker than this.. Extra weight.





This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 24 2015, 08:24 PM

depends i guess. gaming laptop..for ppl who move a lot.. way better than a desktop

and nowadays with 970m and above.. 1080p gaming is bliss.

no point bro. screen refresh rate is 60.

but if you must
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/47440/mod-un...rate/index.html

use limelight/moonlight...

thats how i game and stream from my desktop. it uses shield streaming. i use it on my macbook pro.

doubt it... check avg for between 770 and 960

http://www.techspot.com/review/1060-metal-...arks/page2.html

min is the download need around 10mbps..

also another way now using geforce itself
desktop.. use latest gfe beta.. do share stream.

anybody here want to try one piece co-op..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 25 2015, 12:40 PM

It does. Max 866mbps. You need a ac 5ghz channel width 80 for ac aslonh ure router supports.

As for streamyx n unifi thats internet connection. Nothing to do with ISP

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Sep 26 2015, 08:27 PM