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TSwil-i-am
post Sep 24 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 24 2015, 03:43 PM)
I bought last Friday at 4.22xx. Not far away from 4.50  thumbup.gif
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Yo position is indeed sharp thumbup.gif as I bot @ higher price 4.2370 although on same day cry.gif

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post Sep 24 2015, 04:43 PM

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USD/MYR officially cross 4.40 mark n trade @ 4.4025 now
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post Sep 24 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Brandon323 @ Sep 24 2015, 04:28 PM)
May I know how do you buy USD? Do you convert at normal bank forex rate? I read that you also use DCI: do you often use that to convert? (I have not used before) Curious to know how much is the spread can you save by using DCI?(I assume you get a better rate) And also finally, if you buy at 4.22 and intend to sell at 4.5, that is quite short term trading, are you sure that is a good way to make money? I am more of a long term holder of any kind of instruments and I seldom trade in and out as commission kills in the long run.
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Both getting currency and DCI. Buying currency the spread is higher than DCI. But I get preferential rate (not usual board rate). I have 2 banks which I can compare and get me very competitive rates. Whereas DCI is at spot or very close to spot, depending on your strike price. But for DCI sometimes you cannot convert. When you play DCI for longer time, then you are bound to have many currencies in different forex accounts. I should start looking at forex trading. I think the spread is the lowest.

After some time when you have different currencies in your accounts, that is the time when you have a lot of possibilities to play with. You can just hold it, trade stocks in that currencies for short term, or pair it further with DCI. Some pairing now gives >20% interest because of the volatility. My last pairing in US$ is ~24% ohmy.gif

Yes, I am currently short term as the volatility is very high. That is the opportunity to make more money (and chance to lose more money too). I believe the stock market risk is even higher that they may crash. So I am out of the stock market temporarily.

If you are a long term holder, the above is not the way. What are the instruments you invest in now ?
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post Sep 24 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 24 2015, 04:39 PM)
Yo position is indeed sharp  thumbup.gif as I bot @ higher price 4.2370 although on same day  cry.gif
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Could have done better if I buy a little bit later (gone in too early) as it fell further down to 4.20xx spot. Could have gotten for 4.21xx. Well one can never buy at the bottom and sell at the top
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 24 2015, 04:34 PM)
ok, i give more time sensitive detailed calc:

int rate parity => msia int rate need to be 7.3% against sgd's near zero to stay at current 3.1.

1.073@5 yrs, compound = 1.422; x today's 3.1=4.40.

just for brain exercise but maybe it just might come out that way, ya? tongue.gif
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Good projection. Simple and straight model thumbup.gif If the current scenario remain unchanged, then I think 4.40 is possible as projected in your model

But that is not in the interest of those monkeys in charge of the economy. When malaysia is poor, they have less to songlap also. So I think situation will change and your calculation will change accordingly. I hope we will not face SGD 4.40 in 5 years time...
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 24 2015, 04:58 PM)
I hope we will not face SGD 4.40 in 5 years time...
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in 5 yrs, i see best case will probably be 3.5, worst case 4.4.

here, not many things change over 5 years.

here, many things when they come down, they stay down or go down further.
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post Sep 24 2015, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 24 2015, 04:47 PM)
Both getting currency and DCI. Buying currency the spread is higher than DCI. But I get preferential rate (not usual board rate). I have 2 banks which I can compare and get me very competitive rates. Whereas DCI is at spot or very close to spot, depending on your strike price. But for DCI sometimes you cannot convert. When you play DCI for longer time, then you are bound to have many currencies in different forex accounts. I should start looking at forex trading. I think the spread is the lowest.

After some time when you have different currencies in your accounts, that is the time when you have a lot of possibilities to play with. You can just hold it, trade stocks in that currencies for short term, or pair it further with DCI. Some pairing now gives >20% interest because of the volatility. My last pairing in US$ is ~24%  ohmy.gif

Yes, I am currently short term as the volatility is very high. That is the opportunity to make more money (and chance to lose more money too). I believe the stock market risk is even higher that they may crash. So I am out of the stock market temporarily.

If you are a long term holder, the above is not the way. What are the instruments you invest in now ?
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Do you mind sharing which bank you proceed with DCI? Max i got is 21% in this week with minimum strike rate and 1 week contract.

Thank you in advance smile.gif
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I observe one thing. whenever there's school holiday, MYR would get even weaker & sometimes break new record high rolleyes.gif
I guess that's what happening today sad.gif

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post Sep 24 2015, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(drake88 @ Sep 24 2015, 06:07 PM)
Do you mind sharing which bank you proceed with DCI? Max i got is 21% in this week with minimum strike rate and 1 week contract.

Thank you in advance smile.gif
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PMed. I did that last Friday when US$ is taking a breather. Monday early morning it has already up.

You need a good banker to alert you when rates are favourable
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post Sep 24 2015, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 24 2015, 04:47 PM)
Both getting currency and DCI. Buying currency the spread is higher than DCI. But I get preferential rate (not usual board rate). I have 2 banks which I can compare and get me very competitive rates. Whereas DCI is at spot or very close to spot, depending on your strike price. But for DCI sometimes you cannot convert. When you play DCI for longer time, then you are bound to have many currencies in different forex accounts. I should start looking at forex trading. I think the spread is the lowest.

After some time when you have different currencies in your accounts, that is the time when you have a lot of possibilities to play with. You can just hold it, trade stocks in that currencies for short term, or pair it further with DCI. Some pairing now gives >20% interest because of the volatility. My last pairing in US$ is ~24%  ohmy.gif

Yes, I am currently short term as the volatility is very high. That is the opportunity to make more money (and chance to lose more money too). I believe the stock market risk is even higher that they may crash. So I am out of the stock market temporarily.

If you are a long term holder, the above is not the way. What are the instruments you invest in now ?
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Ok, thanks. You are right that forex trading's quotes are the tightest but the reliability of the broker is a concern. Maybe I should not use the term instruments because I invest in ordinary stuffs like stocks, reits, long term holding for mutual funds. Looking to diversify further into overseas stocks. Curious to know also what kind of funds must one have before you can deal with DCI locally or have RMs attend to you. And how about in Singapore? What kind of funds before they allocate RMs to you? Do you conduct the DCI through phone alone after signing some documents when setting up?
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QUOTE(Brandon323 @ Sep 24 2015, 06:35 PM)
Ok, thanks. You are right that forex trading's quotes are the tightest but the reliability of the broker is a concern. Maybe I should not use the term instruments because I invest in ordinary stuffs like stocks, reits, long term holding for mutual funds. Looking to diversify further into overseas stocks.
Good steady and safe instruments you have there. Ya, I think if you believe in those, you should diversify into forex denominated investment very soon. No harm doing diversification


QUOTE(Brandon323 @ Sep 24 2015, 06:35 PM)
Curious to know also what kind of funds must one have before you can deal with DCI locally or have RMs attend to you. And how about in Singapore? What kind of funds before they allocate RMs to you? Do you conduct the DCI through phone alone after signing some documents when setting up?
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For DCI, most banks have reduced minimum amount down to RM50k. Used to be RM250k minimum. I believe you have read the thread on DCI here ?

RM usually is allocated for those with "preferred", "premium", "preferential" or "privileged" accounts, or whatever term each bank uses. I think the minimum amount defers from bank to bank. Used to be RM300k. I heard it is up to RM1m now. If I am not wrong, CIMB also cater to lesser amount but they call it "prime" customers. I think there is 1 thread about these accounts here too

In Singapore the bank I use set the minimum at US$300k. I am not sure about other banks though.

For DCI in malaysia, I communicate with my RM using Whatsapp only tongue.gif For my singapore account they require the transaction to be recorded, so must be through voice confirmation over the phone. Whatsapp cannot
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 24 2015, 03:49 PM)
I thought you invest in US stock too ?
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I have my allocation to the other side of the world setup. My allocation to this side is still bullish on Sgp.
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post Sep 24 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Aug 10 2015, 04:55 PM)
am thinking yes or no to import stocks around USD 100k

last time the best time i import was at 3.1
before najib 2.6b surfaced ... import at 3.7
after that 3.805

now even damn shit
any possibilities of breaching 4? damn
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this was my post back Aug 10th
ouch

should i dump a part of my money in USD or SGD ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 24 2015, 06:53 PM)
I have my allocation to the other side of the world setup. My allocation to this side is still bullish on Sgp.
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thumbup.gif And SGX has no tax
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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Sep 24 2015, 06:58 PM)
this was my post back Aug 10th
ouch

should i dump a part of my money in USD or SGD ?
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You use USD right ? If you don't use SGD, then all USD better
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post Sep 24 2015, 07:44 PM

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USD1=MYR4.42 (as of 7p.m on 24 Sept)

Looks like it will reach 4.5 this week as Jibby goes USA ... cry.gif If continue to fall like this, what option does Zeti has ... I think is only to increase interest rate (as inflation is also on the rise). Would refinance with fixed interest rate; a good option?? icon_question.gif What is current loan fixed interest rate? Recommendation??

What other options does she have .. Sifu, please share and advise.



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Imho worse come to worst most probally will be peg at 4.5 is it does comes to that.
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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Sep 24 2015, 07:48 PM)
Imho worse come to worst most probally will be peg at 4.5 is it does comes to that.
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Gomen will get more bang per petronas $ from depreciating myr, why need to peg?



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