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USD/MYR drop, V2
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cherroy
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Nov 10 2015, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(burnthome @ Nov 10 2015, 12:43 AM) Fed reserve hinting possible interest rate hike by end of this year... Worst yet to come..if the interest rate is hike and the currency rate will be up even higher. The market already started to price in the hike after better than expected job data which may prompt Fed to raise. It won't wait until the day of Fed announcement of the hike, only it moves.
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prophetjul
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Nov 11 2015, 09:09 AM
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1.00 USD = 4.36278 MYR
Syukur? We didn't hit 4.40?
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Showtime747
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Nov 11 2015, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 11 2015, 09:09 AM) 1.00 USD = 4.36278 MYR Syukur? We didn't hit 4.40? USD did not rise as much as anticipated despite the higher probability of rates increase in December. Maybe Aunty has cried wolf too many times until market is skeptical about her decisiveness ?
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prophetjul
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Nov 11 2015, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 11 2015, 10:21 AM) USD did not rise as much as anticipated despite the higher probability of rates increase in December. Maybe Aunty has cried wolf too many times until market is skeptical about her decisiveness ? My guess it's already priced in until the actual raising
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Showtime747
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Nov 11 2015, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 11 2015, 10:27 AM) My guess it's already priced in until the actual raising Could be. But if we look at USD/Eur, USD/GBP or USD/JPY during 1 year peak in Mar/Apr, it is still lower now. But as much as I can "justify/reasoning out", most of the time market has its own unpredictable trend
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AVFAN
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Nov 11 2015, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 11 2015, 10:21 AM) USD did not rise as much as anticipated despite the higher probability of rates increase in December. Maybe Aunty has cried wolf too many times until market is skeptical about her decisiveness ? QUOTE Traders see a 70 percent chance that the Fed will raise its benchmark rate from near zero at its next meeting, up from a 56 percent probability before Friday’s release of stronger-than-forecast U.S. labor data. The calculation assumes the effective fed funds rate averages 0.375 percent after the first hike. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ase-in-december crude has gone further down to 43.70. iea sees low price till 2020: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/10/oil-price-t...y-2020-iea.htmlwith crude not recovering anytime soon, deflation risks will roil fed's plan to hike in dec. so, we may have a case of low oil price but no rate hike for months to come. where will rm go then? still down, i suppose. 4.3-4.4?
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Showtime747
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Nov 11 2015, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 11 2015, 11:58 AM) crude has gone further down to 43.70. iea sees low price till 2020: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/10/oil-price-t...y-2020-iea.htmlwith crude not recovering anytime soon, deflation risks will roil fed's plan to hike in dec. so, we may have a case of low oil price but no rate hike for months to come. where will rm go then? still down, i suppose. 4.3-4.4?  Ya, still so much uncertainty on what is going to happen now till Dec. Market can only "price in" to a certain level, because there are people who still gamble rates could not be hiked this year. I still think "pricing in" is not possible now because of our Aunty's past behaviour. A December hike is still a surprise to half of the market and will rattle stock and bond markets with the formal announcement.
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nexona88
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Nov 11 2015, 12:34 PM
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Unker Dreamer TP of 4.70 year end would be achieved or not
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Showtime747
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Nov 11 2015, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 11 2015, 12:34 PM) Unker Dreamer TP of 4.70 year end would be achieved or not  If I don't put in my signature, everyone forget already I think unker will lose. Because unty will not increase rates. ASx people is not dumb after all. In fact if RM stay below 4.40, it was a good decision not to convert to USD at that time
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nexona88
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Nov 11 2015, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 11 2015, 01:01 PM) If I don't put in my signature, everyone forget already I think unker will lose. Because unty will not increase rates. ASx people is not dumb after all. In fact if RM stay below 4.40, it was a good decision not to convert to USD at that time seriously I forgot all about it. then I saw your siggny
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AVFAN
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Nov 11 2015, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 11 2015, 01:01 PM) If I don't put in my signature, everyone forget already I think unker will lose. Because unty will not increase rates. ASx people is not dumb after all. In fact if RM stay below 4.40, it was a good decision not to convert to USD at that time let's try this: TODAY. if u have rm50k, will u buy usd (zero int) at 4.38? or put in asx or fd or bursa or something else but local?
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ikanbilis
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Nov 11 2015, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 11 2015, 03:38 PM) let's try this: TODAY. if u have rm50k, will u buy usd (zero int) at 4.38? or put in asx or fd or bursa or something else but local? I'm doing the opposite. Today i just transferred usd10k back to malaysia. Probably after conversion i will get RM43600 only. Going to dump into asw/asm soon. Maybe i am dummy. ..
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AVFAN
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Nov 11 2015, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 11 2015, 03:56 PM) I'm doing the opposite. Today i just transferred usd10k back to malaysia. Probably after conversion i will get RM43600 only. Going to dump into asw/asm soon. Maybe i am dummy. .. you will not have answer until a year pass.
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TSwil-i-am
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Nov 11 2015, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 11 2015, 03:56 PM) I'm doing the opposite. Today i just transferred usd10k back to malaysia. Probably after conversion i will get RM43600 only. Going to dump into asw/asm soon. Maybe i am dummy. .. I will standby u
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nexona88
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Nov 11 2015, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 11 2015, 03:56 PM) I'm doing the opposite. Today i just transferred usd10k back to malaysia. Probably after conversion i will get RM43600 only. Going to dump into asw/asm soon. Maybe i am dummy. .. asw very susah / limited.. asm kinda okay for now to get
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ikanbilis
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Nov 11 2015, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 11 2015, 04:42 PM) asw very susah / limited.. asm kinda okay for now to get  No problem, if cannot get ASx, i'll just dump into EPF. i dun need the money right now... ..
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AVFAN
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Nov 11 2015, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 11 2015, 12:34 PM) Unker Dreamer TP of 4.70 year end would be achieved or not  never say never... all it takes is a fed rate hike in dec followed by crude price return to previous low of 35. bijanomics already declared "dun blame me, blame external". will low reserves, high debt, budget deficit, slow gdp... rm is pretty much a sitting duck, at the mercy of external, our gomen, bnm basically will/can do nothing about it. unlike thai baht or sgd.
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nexona88
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Nov 11 2015, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 11 2015, 05:29 PM) never say never... all it takes is a fed rate hike in dec followed by crude price return to previous low of 35. bijanomics already declared "dun blame me, blame external". will low reserves, high debt, budget deficit, slow gdp... rm is pretty much a sitting duck, at the mercy of external, our gomen, bnm basically will/can do nothing about it. unlike thai baht or sgd. okay. let's wait for it btw where is unker D. long time no see him reply
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ohcipala
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Nov 11 2015, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 11 2015, 05:50 PM) okay. let's wait for it btw where is unker D. long time no see him reply  Maybe go Holland. Lol
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Showtime747
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Nov 11 2015, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 11 2015, 03:38 PM) let's try this: TODAY. if u have rm50k, will u buy usd (zero int) at 4.38? or put in asx or fd or bursa or something else but local? Neither. I will convert to SGD and transfer to Singapore and put in SGX when those bank stock/telco/reits fall further
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