QUOTE(chengcheng @ Oct 14 2015, 11:02 PM)
Many people asked me the same question when RM broke the historical 3.80 a few months agoUSD/MYR drop, V2
USD/MYR drop, V2
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Oct 14 2015, 11:11 PM
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Oct 14 2015, 11:26 PM
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Folks,
There is an additional advantage of diversification with asset allocation and re-balancing. You always "Buy Low and Sell High". So, let's say you put 50% into US stock index ETF and 50% into non-US World stock index. If US stock goes down and non-US stock world index goes up, You sell world index (high) and buy US stock index (Low). Ditto, if US stock goes up and non-US stock world index goes down. You sell US stock (high) and buy world index (low). You can do this with multiple asset classes across multiple countries with FIXED percentage. Dreamer |
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Oct 14 2015, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Oct 14 2015, 11:02 PM) chengcheng,Are you over-exposed to MYR?? Do you have any savings / investment outside of MYR?? If not, it is never too late to diversify and protect yourself. Spread your money out and do it a bit at a time to avoid hitting the low. Dreamer |
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Oct 14 2015, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 14 2015, 11:26 PM) Folks, what if both index down? would you dump more money into each to apply the buy low sell high theory? sometimes it is just too hard to predict market movement. There is an additional advantage of diversification with asset allocation and re-balancing. You always "Buy Low and Sell High". So, let's say you put 50% into US stock index ETF and 50% into non-US World stock index. If US stock goes down and non-US stock world index goes up, You sell world index (high) and buy US stock index (Low). Ditto, if US stock goes up and non-US stock world index goes down. You sell US stock (high) and buy world index (low). You can do this with multiple asset classes across multiple countries with FIXED percentage. Dreamer |
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Oct 14 2015, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 14 2015, 11:26 PM) Folks, Do you change the percentage according to current market situation or is it fixed forever? There is an additional advantage of diversification with asset allocation and re-balancing. You always "Buy Low and Sell High". So, let's say you put 50% into US stock index ETF and 50% into non-US World stock index. If US stock goes down and non-US stock world index goes up, You sell world index (high) and buy US stock index (Low). Ditto, if US stock goes up and non-US stock world index goes down. You sell US stock (high) and buy world index (low). You can do this with multiple asset classes across multiple countries with FIXED percentage. Dreamer |
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Oct 14 2015, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 14 2015, 11:29 PM) what if both index down? would you dump more money into each to apply the buy low sell high theory? sometimes it is just too hard to predict market movement. QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 14 2015, 11:29 PM) Folks,1) It is fixed forever. << what if both index down? would you dump more money into each to apply the buy low sell high theory? sometimes it is just too hard to predict market movement.>> 2) No, you do not dump more money in. 3) You do not sell unless the ratio between them changes. 4) You do not need to predict market movement. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2843370 5) If you are interested, check above thread. Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Oct 15 2015, 09:29 AM |
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Oct 15 2015, 09:27 AM
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Some have said that gold no good. It protected my ringgit value.
Gold started the year around MYR4200 p oz.....now its approx 5,000. Approx 19% gain USD started the year MYR3.5. Now its 4.2........approx 20% gain.........very similar. However, its important to Diversify in uncharted times. Cometh Deflation? This post has been edited by prophetjul: Oct 15 2015, 09:28 AM |
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Oct 15 2015, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 15 2015, 09:27 AM) Some have said that gold no good. It protected my ringgit value. For time being, when RM falls, everything in foreign currencies denominated asset are protecting you the RM depreciation, be itGold started the year around MYR4200 p oz.....now its approx 5,000. Approx 19% gain USD started the year MYR3.5. Now its 4.2........approx 20% gain.........very similar. However, its important to Diversify in uncharted times. Cometh Deflation? 1. Gold is also a foreign currency denominated asset, or specifically USD denominated. That's why we see identical gain with RM vs USD, while gold itself in USD has been stagnant. So gold has a function of hedging RM vs USD. 2. Foreign country property 3. Foreign market shares, unit trust 5. Foreign bonds As long as those foreign currency are appreciating against RM, specifically or majority are in USD term, then they all have a function of hedging against RM vs USD. Most countries registered zero inflation except for countries that its currencies plummeting one. Yes, diversification is the one can mitigate the risk, this is why it is always advisable to have a diversification portfolio. |
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Oct 15 2015, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 15 2015, 09:42 AM) For time being, when RM falls, everything in foreign currencies denominated asset are protecting you the RM depreciation, be it Did you know that in normal circumstances when USDX gains, gold falls? Gold held its price. 1. Gold is also a foreign currency denominated asset, or specifically USD denominated. That's why we see identical gain with RM vs USD, while gold itself in USD has been stagnant. So gold has a function of hedging RM vs USD. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This time round it was different...........UNCHARTED waters. |
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Oct 15 2015, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 15 2015, 09:46 AM) Did you know that in normal circumstances when USDX gains, gold falls? Gold held its price. Yes, but this co-relation has broken a bit already since gold stagnant at 1100~1200 level.This time round it was different...........UNCHARTED waters. Gold stagnant or range bound in this range, while USD up and down on its own. I guess gold price has hit the bottom, just like it did during 80's to 2000 time. It is RM fall the worst, while from Sgd, gold price doesn't appreciate as much as from RM pov. RM is winning the currency war, sadly to say. Yes, no single trend last forever, now we are entering a new phase or financial order. |
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Oct 15 2015, 01:12 PM
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1.00 USD = 4.14194 MYR
1.00 SGD = 3.00650 MYR 1.00 GBP = 6.40969 MYR |
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Oct 15 2015, 03:29 PM
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Oct 15 2015, 05:53 PM
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interesting and unusual day today for fx.
asian, european bourses and emerging market currencies rallied today, throwing out fed rate hike possibility! but... us crude inventories swelled, price just went below 46. weak usd yet crude price falling. something to watch in the next few days... |
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Oct 15 2015, 06:30 PM
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Locked in some USD today at 4.16
It looks like RM recovery is together with the rest of the currencies. Many (or all?) are trading against the USD. |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:20 PM
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Oct 15 2015, 10:28 PM
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Haha.. Me too bro @ 4.11
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Oct 15 2015, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 15 2015, 07:23 AM) interesting and unusual day today for fx. the tide is nearasian, european bourses and emerging market currencies rallied today, throwing out fed rate hike possibility! but... us crude inventories swelled, price just went below 46. weak usd yet crude price falling. something to watch in the next few days... |
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Oct 15 2015, 11:07 PM
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Oct 15 2015, 11:26 PM
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Where you guys get at 4.11? Bought cash or savings account?
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Oct 15 2015, 11:42 PM
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Dont' forget Oil price.
Oil price probably seen the worse/bottom. So most likely, it will go up. And so will RM. |
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