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Roger89
post Oct 17 2015, 08:58 PM

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USD all the way!!

If MYR improves to 4.00 I will buy big lot.

In future, we may see people (mad crowds) lining up at money changers. By that time.. Uh oo. Watch for the top. But that will be many months away.
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post Oct 17 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 17 2015, 07:40 PM)
Classic herd behaviour, see the tree and miss the forest.

USD will strengthen further.
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Forex is like commodities, short term movement could be deviated from long term trend. People looking at tree/short term price movement may miss the forest/long term trend. Long term economic equilibrium always prevail. MYR forex is expected to worsen before stabilizing.

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post Oct 17 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(pfesto @ Oct 17 2015, 06:51 PM)
But I heard that Yuan is still potential to bethe reserve currency. In that case, would USD go down and MYR appreciate?
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Until Yuan can be international traded, it will be limited.

You need a currency that easily being traded offshore and everywhere in the world to become a dominance and highly after by countries all over the world as reserves currency.


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post Oct 18 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 17 2015, 06:20 PM)
I think people are reactive to crisis, rather than proactive. Now that RM shows some strength, they thought the crisis is over and problem solved  tongue.gif
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it's always calm before the storm. tongue.gif

i am watching china's data for next few weeks/months. i see that driving commodities prices and hence currencies.

even fed/usd appears mindful of that. tongue.gif

QUOTE(langstrasse @ Oct 17 2015, 07:58 PM)
It's interesting how people are getting used to the 4 to dollar level, so quickly.
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interesting observation. is it true? hmm.gif

my take is 1/3 sees no effect/dun care, 1/3 feel the pain but accept quietly and 1/3 agonizing/struggling.

imported inflation has only just started; by early next year, that may change dramatically.

the bad news is even if rm goes <4.0 later next year, i can't see how consumer prices will come down - they never do.
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post Oct 18 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Oct 17 2015, 07:58 PM)
It's interesting how people are getting used to the 4 to dollar level, so quickly.
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People who are used to it:
1 It doesn't affect them (yet) or they think it doesn't affect them.
2 Too rich to care.

I'm definitely not used to seeing a 17k imac. shakehead.gif
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post Oct 18 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 18 2015, 12:06 PM)
it's always calm before the storm. tongue.gif

i am watching china's data for next few weeks/months. i see that driving commodities prices and hence currencies.

even fed/usd appears mindful of that. tongue.gif
interesting observation. is it true? hmm.gif

my take is 1/3 sees no effect/dun care, 1/3 feel the pain but accept quietly and 1/3 agonizing/struggling.

imported inflation has only just started; by early next year, that may change dramatically.

the bad news is even if rm goes <4.0 later next year, i can't see how consumer prices will come down - they never do.
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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 18 2015, 04:19 PM)
People who are used to it:
1 It doesn't affect them (yet) or they think it doesn't affect them.
2 Too rich to care.

I'm definitely not used to seeing a 17k imac.  shakehead.gif
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Most average joe don't have alternative or ability to foresee but to accept what is coming when it comes. The impact will be similar to when MYR/USD changed from 2.5 to 3.8.

Official inflation rate will be below 4%.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 18 2015, 04:40 PM
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post Oct 18 2015, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 18 2015, 04:39 PM)
Official inflation rate will be below 4%.
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u ought to be more optimistic.

it will be <3.5%. aug 2015 was only 3.1%.

official inflation is very hard to rise in msia; has never crossed 3.5% since 2009.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/inflation-cpi

but we know urban-suburban reality is 2.5 times that, i.e. 8-9%.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 18 2015, 07:44 PM
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post Oct 18 2015, 08:16 PM

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Wat is the direction of USD/MYR next week?
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post Oct 18 2015, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 18 2015, 12:06 PM)
it's always calm before the storm. tongue.gif

i am watching china's data for next few weeks/months. i see that driving commodities prices and hence currencies.

even fed/usd appears mindful of that. tongue.gif
interesting observation. is it true? hmm.gif

my take is 1/3 sees no effect/dun care, 1/3 feel the pain but accept quietly and 1/3 agonizing/struggling.

imported inflation has only just started; by early next year, that may change dramatically.

the bad news is even if rm goes <4.0 later next year, i can't see how consumer prices will come down - they never do.
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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 18 2015, 04:19 PM)
People who are used to it:
1 It doesn't affect them (yet) or they think it doesn't affect them.
2 Too rich to care.

I'm definitely not used to seeing a 17k imac.  shakehead.gif
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It really does seem like the proverbial frog in hot water, people (especially Malaysians) complain about a lot of things at first but eventually they just get used to it.
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post Oct 18 2015, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Oct 18 2015, 08:18 PM)
It really does seem like the proverbial frog in hot water, people (especially Malaysians) complain about a lot of things at first but eventually they just get used to it.
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well, frogs have been around for a long time and are still around.

and hot water is easy to make. tongue.gif
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post Oct 19 2015, 02:35 PM

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USD/MYR seems to be turning up today. 4.22
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post Oct 19 2015, 02:41 PM

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To be frank, in the long term, USD will appreciate in my opinion due to the interest rate differences between Malaysia and US after the hike. Since Zeti do not and quite hard on the interest rate rise, i think Malaysia will have a tough time ahead.

The sudden rocket of the previous few weeks was due to fear and herd mentality. But i expect most of the negativity already been factored in and the level should be roughly between 4-4.30.

RM5 is a bit too far fetch. i doubt our Msia economy with its GDP standing at reasonable level to have that bad of a level.
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post Oct 19 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Roger89 @ Oct 19 2015, 02:35 PM)
USD/MYR seems to be turning up today. 4.22
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crude stable, china data not all bad, most asian currencies gained/flat vs weak usd today... but rm fell almost 1%.

most likely reason is market jittery what bijan budget on fri, how to deal with much less oil money and more br1m... widen deficit further, tax more, borrow more? there is good reason to think the rm will weaken further for now.

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Amid falling oil revenue, Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak said the upcoming budget will be among the most difficult he has ever tabled.
He said the government received RM26 billion in dividends from Petronas this year, but the national oil company is seeking to slash that amount to a mere RM9 billion next year.
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/316144#ixzz3ouBJYkk4

Ringgit falls as Malaysia faces oil revenue pressures in budget - See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...h.yYN8eEX3.dpuf

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if Friday budget nothing good, I guess Monday will be red and shoot up USD/MYR again
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post Oct 19 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Oct 19 2015, 08:27 PM)
if Friday budget nothing good, I guess Monday will be red and shoot up USD/MYR again
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U will long or shot USD? hmm.gif
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post Oct 19 2015, 09:26 PM

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post Oct 19 2015, 09:57 PM

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What happen to SGD?

It's increasing like mad....



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post Oct 19 2015, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 19 2015, 02:51 PM)
crude stable, china data not all bad, most asian currencies gained/flat vs weak usd today... but rm fell almost 1%.

most likely reason is market jittery what bijan budget on fri, how to deal with much less oil money and more br1m... widen deficit further, tax more, borrow more? there is good reason to think the rm will weaken further for now.
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Thx for the articles. USD/MYR manage to make new high this week 4.26 thus possibly beginning another upleg.
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post Oct 19 2015, 10:13 PM

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Honda Malaysia says to raise vehicle prices by 2% to 3%
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ices/?style=biz

Better buy Honda quick by tis Christmas...
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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Oct 19 2015, 09:57 PM)
What happen to SGD?

It's increasing like mad....
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was decreasing against USD tho tongue.gif

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