Enable Round Trip Latency Optimize.
Save, reboot and check your RTL & IOL to make sure they are good (follow that rule that i mentioned earlier). If yes, memorize/write down the RTL/IOL.
MSI boards tend to fluctuate in RTL training, so you might want to manually insert these RTL &. IOL. Reboot.

yeah i notice it fluctuates alot. although the menu is different now but i have manually set as you mention because every time i change some settings including voltage, the RTL will change. Currently quite nice.... end up getting 4266c17 haha. almost reaching 600% stable.

4000C14 DR anyone?

Royal Elite F4-4000C14D-32GTEG: $570
https://www.memoryc.com/memory/f4-4000c14d-32gteg.html
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin...N82E16820374257

TridentZ RGB F4-4000C14D-32GTZR: $520
https://www.memoryc.com/memory/f4-4000c14d-32gtzr.html
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin...N82E16820374229

Ripjaws V F4-4000C14D-32GVK: $490
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin...N82E16820374239

Have a 6700k that can reach 4.5 @ 1.325

But temps can peak up to 85c

Thinking to delid - Does anyone have a delidding tool I can loan ?

that price hnghhh.... should get a 10900K first before getting that lmao .... the irony that my cpu is actually the cheapest component in my PC even my casing cost more than it.

This guy is doing delid service.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4231294

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 29 2021, 08:42 AM

trying new bios from MSI, description only mentioned usb compatibility but i suppose there's a microcode update as well.

now SA/IO can run at a lower 1.3/1.3V bandwidth and latency slightly better.

Thermal and power consumption of 11900K vs 10900K vs 5900X...

Realbench v2.56 (15 mins) - CPU Core Temperature

CPU	Idle (°C)	Load (°C)
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	39.6	90.3
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	40.9	89.4
5900X @ 4.5 GHz All-Core	44.8	88.6
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	44.0	91.5

Realbench v2.56 (15 mins) - CPU Package Power

CPU	Idle (W)	Load (W)
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	71.4	267.1
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	29.5	210.2
5900X @ 4.5 GHz All-Core	63.4	209.0
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	37.3	221.6

Realbench v2.56 (15 mins) - Total System Power Consumption (CPU+GPU)

CPU	Idle (W)	Load (W)
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	172.0	816.0
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	132.0	744.0
5900X @ 4.5 GHz All-Core	144.0	692.0
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	116.0	704.0

Battlefield V 1920x1080 Ultra DX12 (10 mins) - CPU Core Temperature

CPU	Idle (°C)	Load (°C)
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	41.3	76.5
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	40.3	73.5
5900X @ 4.5 GHz All-Core	44.8	71.3
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	44.8	77.0

Battlefield V 1920x1080 Ultra DX12 (10 mins) - Total System Power Consumption (CPU+GPU)

CPU	Idle (W)	Load (W)
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	176.0	660.0
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	132.0	596.0
5900X @ 4.5 GHz All-Core	148.0	556.0
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	124.0	564.0

11900K PC specs:
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core: vCore auto | LLC2 | SVID Trained | C-state off
Maximus XIII EXTREME, BIOS 0902
2x16GB TridentZ Royal 4000C17 B-die @ 3866 14-15-15-34-2T (Gear 1) @ 1.55V
TUF 3080 BIOS V5, OC +150/1100 | driver 466.77 | Rebar off
Custom WC: by EK-Supremacy EVO RGB + 2x RX360 + 12x GT + 1x D5
AX1200i
Dimastech EasyDual V2.5

10900K PC specs:
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core: vCore auto | LLC6 | SVID Trained | C-state off
Maximus XII FORMULA, BIOS 2005
2x16GB TridentZ Royal 4000C17 B-die @ 3800 14-15-15-28-2T @ 1.55V
TUF 3080 BIOS V2, OC +150/1100 | driver 461.81 | Rebar off
Custom WC: by EK-Supremacy EVO RGB + 2x RX360 + 12x GT + 1x D5
AX1200i
Dimastech EasyDual V2.5

5900X PC specs:
1) 5900X @ 4.5 GHz All-Core: vCore BIOS set 1.35v | LLC auto | C-state off
2) 5900X @ @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz: PBO Mobo | CO - ve 25,25,25,25,25,25,30,30,30,25,30,25 | OCOV +200MHz| C-state off
ROG Strix B550-I, BIOS 2007
2x16GB TridentZ Royal 4000C17 B-die @ 3800 14-15-15-28-1T (IF 1900 1:1) @ 1.55V
TUF 3080 BIOS V2, OC +150/1100 | driver 461.81 | Rebar off
Custom WC: by EK-Supremacy EVO RGB + 2x RX360 + 12x GT + 1x D5
AX1200i
Dimastech EasyDual V2.5

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 21 2021, 08:53 PM

New benchmark for CPU!

11900K SP76 @ 5.1 GHz
Maximus XIII EXTREME | BIOS 0902
2x16GB B-Die DR 3866 14-15-15-28-2T @ 1.55V Gear1
ZOTAC GTX 1060 DUAL MINI | NV 471.11

Win 11:


Win 10:


This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 28 2021, 09:27 PM

Time Spy Win11 vs Win10

11900K SP76 @ 5.1 GHz
Maximus XIII EXTREME | BIOS 0902
2x16GB B-Die DR 3866 14-15-15-28-2T @ 1.55V Gear1
TUF 3080 OC +150/1100 | NV 466.77

Win10:


Win11:

Overclocking my 11700K just for the numbers

Nice bro. What are your OC for CPU and RAM?
Cooling?

I have another slightly higher result here: https://www.3dmark.com/cpu/24941



Was done with 5.3G 1/2-core, 5.2G all others and AVX-1 offset.
RAM is 2x 16GB Klevv @ 4533MHz with timing following cstkl1's guide in another thread.
Custom water cooling with mostly Corsair components except radiator.

Probably still can squeeze a bit more with more fine tuning but major limitation is temperature >90C at peak.

damn owi, ur 8 threads are strong. wth happened there

No idea bro, I don't even know how this new benchmark works lol. What score did you get with your CPU?

btw, this are my results on Win10 :


Win 11:


This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 28 2021, 09:11 PM

not much of a difference between these 2 right now then.

I just ran the bench twice earlier after seeing this.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/63181883 this is the better run

I don't really think with it's length (too short) and the cpu utilization (not even 100% when running full threads despite power limit not hit and cpu well below 90C) this benchmark is any good to be fair.

You’re able to clock 5.4G all cores? I guess 11900K really good bin then.
In comparison, my 11700K require insane voltage to get stable at 5.4G so I’m pretty sure it’ll fail benchmark hence didn’t try. Even at 5.3G, already pushing above 1.5V

Nah not all, I'm running by core (+specific) as daily. 54, 54, 53, 53, 53, 52, 52(51), 52(51). Thermal throttling >=90°C. Cache stock.
The one in brackets is my daily, the upped 52 was for the run above. Both should be stable albeit having just tested 51 extensively.

Might be useful for those who care about choice of PSU.

Battlefield V 3440x1440 Ultra DX12 (10 mins) - Total System Power Consumption (CPU+GPU)

CPU + GPU	Idle (W)	Load (W)
11900K @ 5.1 + Strix 3090 OC 480W	188.0	808.0
11900K @ 5.1 + Strix 3090 Stock 390w	188.0	712.0

Realbench v2.56 (15 mins) - Total System Power Consumption (CPU+GPU)

CPU + GPU	Idle (W)	Load (W)
11900K @ 5.1 + Strix 3090 OC 480W	188.0	964.0
11900K @ 5.1 + Strix 3090 Stock 390w	188.0	884.0

My Setup:
11900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core: vCore auto | LLC4 | SVID Trained | C-state off
Maximus XIII EXTREME, BIOS 0902
2x16GB TridentZ Royal 4000C17 B-die @ 3866 14-15-15-34-2T (Gear 1) @ 1.55V
ROG Strix 3090 BIOS V4, Stock (390W)/OC +120/1000 (480W) | driver 471.11 | Rebar on
Custom WC: by EK-Supremacy EVO RGB + 2x RX360 + 12x GT + 1x D5
AX1200i
Dimastech EasyDual V2.5

Joining the Samsung B-die club now

2x16GB Acer Predator Apollo (Samsung B-Die DR) 4266MHz 17-18-18-38 @ 1.55V Gear2



Initial finding is this RAM kit max can reach till 4266MHz without any error, 4400MHz onwards will have error even with loosen timing or increased voltage.
Slightly harder to get it stabilized compared to Hynix DJR kit.