Description
- Update ME 14.1
- Support Re-size BAR function to enhance GPU performance including the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 series and others.
- BIOS updated to be compatible with 11th Gen Intel Processors
- Improved compatibility of PCIe-based devices.


anyone tried this new bios from intel which supports resize bar yet on z490 chipsets?

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Feb 17 2021, 06:04 PM

Need some advice on my klevv bolt XR DJR DR settings:



VCCSA 1.2V VCCIO 1.18V VDIMM 1.48V. Ring is max at X40 on the 10400F

messed with trefi set to 31200 and most of the sub timing are left as it is on auto.
Tfaw is auto @ 42. set to 16 and actually got higher latency and lower bandwidth, not sure why (current settings passed memtest86 8 passes)

Pretty hard getting it to boot with anything lower then current settings. adding more VCCSA and VCCIO up to 1.3v doesnt seem to help at all.

Perhaps a bad IMC or bad lottery DIMM but still wondering what could improve the read speed. altho the aida value is quite inconsistent. it can get up to 57K but hopefully can hit closer to 60K.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Apr 12 2021, 04:58 PM

First taste of Bdie

400% should be good enough.

vdimm 1.48v, vccsa 1.35v vccio 1.3v
My CPU IMC wasnt a really good one. So dont think I will push anymore. (also kinda lazy haha)
cheapest Bdie in the market from amazon (now out of stock also seems Bdie very rare or very expensive now), 270USD shipped 3200c14 2X16 tridentz rgb.

but it looks like the RGB very not in sync.... is there a way to set it properly?



This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 4 2021, 08:20 PM

I think mine is quite optimized already with the voltage capped as it is (I actually just used my DJR profile that I spent alot of time on tuning and modify to fit this Bdie and dropped the primary). this MSI UNIFY ITX board have very low read and copy for some reason. Can see same pattern on other user's with the same board. Looks like im one of the very few here that is using this board.
Sauce So I guess can say avoid this board but I dont know how gaygay and ass's Z490i performs. I got this because this was the only z490 itx left in whole LYN.

My ring multiplier is only at 46X so I suppose can drop some latency and some extra read if I increase but I think i'll leave it as it is. It looks like the performance is down to different board and cpu bin and dimm bin... my previous 10400F can handle 4133mhz with sa/io 1.2v/1.1v but well, I got this 10600K for RM700 so im not complaining. . Wanted to get the 3600C14.... but RM1.8K++ fuhhhh. I think i'll just settle with this $270 3200c14. Already achieved the speed and timing I wanted.

MSI memory tweak it only sets the speed, primary and voltage. It's quite useless if you already know what you're doing.

ahh.. i meant to make them sync without using any bloatware running in the background. Doesnt seem like it's possible after researching.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 4 2021, 10:48 PM

further optimization to drop voltage because felt previous one was quite high, decided to drop to 4000c16. Now SA/IO/DIMM 1.28/1.28/1.45v. Gaming performance not affected.

finally broke the 40ns wall


This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 6 2021, 11:22 AM

thanks for advice. my tRDWR was 12-12-12-12 but the mobo changed to those values on its own. TWR is 8 but the mobo changes it to 10. RTL/IOL is auto.
im slowly dropping my SA/IO at the moment. currently at 1.25... since already gotten a 400% stable baseline.

edit: when i enable PPD=0 trdwr_dd = auto, the RTL/IOL seems to behave better. VSA/IO/DIMM 1.2/1.2/1.44. will be running memtest now.

is it ok to have ppd=0?



This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 6 2021, 01:40 PM

Yeah, i read it's something about idle states. Somehow when i ppd=1, the RTL/IOL becomes messy. Right now it looks perfect, just that ppd is 0. Well, got an extra 20fps on F1 2020 from DJR@4133c18. Cant complain. This tridentz is meant to be a cosmetic upgrade over the klevv bolt XR haha.

Currently memtest passed 100% already. Thanks for the advice.

Edit: error at 120% need to up SA/IO


Done 600% memtest. Now end up with 1.3 SA/1.25 IO/1.45 Dimm.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 6 2021, 10:06 PM

I really dont understand this mobo... this morning try to push abit. end up SA/IO/VDIMM 1.3/1.3/1.45, I got it to 4266c17 but cant get to boot at 4133c17 at 1.35/1.3/1.48.
although not below 40ns anymore but gain alot more bandwidth and gaming benchmark scores improvement over 4000c16.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 7 2021, 02:43 PM

yeah i notice it fluctuates alot. although the menu is different now but i have manually set as you mention because every time i change some settings including voltage, the RTL will change. Currently quite nice.... end up getting 4266c17 haha. almost reaching 600% stable.

that price hnghhh.... should get a 10900K first before getting that lmao .... the irony that my cpu is actually the cheapest component in my PC even my casing cost more than it.

trying new bios from MSI, description only mentioned usb compatibility but i suppose there's a microcode update as well.

now SA/IO can run at a lower 1.3/1.3V bandwidth and latency slightly better.

32GB? try go command rate 2T. probably can go higher. Yours looks like it's limited to the IMC.

ah right, forgot you're on 11th lol.
maybe up the trfc and loosen the RTL. you dont really gain very significant latency from there. better to tighten the primary first then only push the secondary.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 7 2021, 11:43 PM

cant hand tweak but i think owikh shown before in some older posts where to set so that you can set a base for the memory to train from. Well you mobo is a pretty good one. such high read lol. Mine only manages read 61K but my write is at 66K (MSI crappy bios).

well, generally it's better for the bios to train the values anyways. Dont think Asus will retrain like MSI which will ruin all the effort at random.

Well, as explained by owikh before. the trained RTL value is affected by SA/IO/DIMM voltages (too high or too low) and all the timing values... so if not done right, the RTL IOL will be weird. Thus it can be a sign of instability.
you do have some odd settings such as the 4 TRDWR values ideally should be all same, like 12-12-12-12.

i think what ctskl say weird is that although you fulfilled the rule to not be more than 1 apart but it normally looks like this:

CHA D0 40
CHA D1 41

CHB D0 40
CHB D1 41

cant see your IOL to judge further.
Maybe you can copy some of those sifu's values and try. Your mobo is pretty similar to theirs, maybe can even ask for a bios profile. Im pretty sure they are willing to share.

also bdie you can get away with lower SA/IO/DIMM voltages so sometimes having them too high following from your previous DJR settings, it may cause instability. try 1.4v-1.45 for 4266.. also Bdie is quite temp sensitive so the quality of the ram's heatsink matters too (which is why TridentZ does quite well).

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 8 2021, 11:34 AM

yeah this kind of settings have to find sweet spot, cannot simply brute force. especially by cranking up voltage.

Sometimes your kit will also will not like certain ranges. Like my B-die struggle to get to 4133 17-17-17-37 as that was my initial target. already put voltage to 1.5V but it just cannot post... brute force the training then will be super unstable anyways. But then 4266 17-17-17-37no issues at 1.4V rock stable.

maybe you can try skip 4266 to 4500 to tune.

just use bandwidth to compensate with the latency and test it with games to see which gives you better performance. around 50ns is damn good if you can reach 70+K.

No point going very low latency but bandwidth also low. Need to find the balance. iinm if you playing with gear2, better go for 4500mhz+ else best you stay at gear 1 and tighten 3866mhz to 15 or 14.

you have to run your own gaming benchmark liao yeah.... IMC luck, mine also not that good. need quite alot of SA/IO voltage to go further, albeit my 3200c14 seems to be a pretty decent kit.

oooooohhhh it does much more than you'd think. This is why despite AMD being the top in 1080P gaming, it actually kena beat down in 1440P and 4K due to bandwidth and latency.