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post Jul 9 2015, 09:11 PM

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i failed my sejarah coz all the malaysia history is full of flaws even hang tuah is melayu. bodoh BN
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post Jul 9 2015, 09:25 PM

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Crusader descendant had now repent on their past mistake ,and are now living to entertain people by scoring goal (Cristiano)and parking bus (Jose). re write their holy book.

Meanwhile their islam counterpart.................

Owaii, later alot butthurt.lets talk about love, not hatred.

Japanese also regretted their past aggression and now trying hard to teach people how to make love..........
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post Jul 9 2015, 09:31 PM

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Crusaders travel to Jerusalem direction. Which stupid one travel half a globe to crusade? Furthermore the Portuguese who set land in malacca were majority Indian taken on board to fight.
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post Jul 9 2015, 09:34 PM

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thats why a lot of the doctors and lawyers in malaya got engrish name and my gwai lo frens surprised when meeting those professionals up personally

QUOTE(hbmalaya @ Jul 9 2015, 09:31 PM)
Crusaders travel to Jerusalem direction. Which stupid one travel half a globe to crusade? Furthermore the Portuguese who set land in malacca were majority Indian taken on board to fight.
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post Jul 9 2015, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Jul 9 2015, 09:25 PM)
Crusader descendant had now repent on their past mistake ,and are now living to entertain people by scoring goal (Cristiano)and parking bus (Jose). re write their holy book.

Meanwhile their islam counterpart.................

Owaii, later alot butthurt.lets talk about love, not hatred.

Japanese also regretted their past aggression and now trying hard to teach people how to make love..........
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Christians had a few hundred years head start. Give muslims a few more hundred years to be fair.

Though to be honest those 'Christian' nations simply just chnage their tone, from wars to spread religion, they just change them to wars to spread democracy.
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post Jul 9 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(hbmalaya @ Jul 9 2015, 09:31 PM)
Crusaders travel to Jerusalem direction. Which stupid one travel half a globe to crusade? Furthermore the Portuguese who set land in malacca were majority Indian taken on board to fight.
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Check my posts few pages back. Crusades does not mean only the one with regards to Jerusalem.
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jul 9 2015, 09:57 PM)
Christians had a few hundred years head start. Give muslims a few more hundred years to be fair.

Though to be honest those 'Christian' nations simply just chnage their tone, from wars to spread religion, they just change them to wars to spread democracy.
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Topkek!

Korea took 40 years to be what it is today. China too or lesser. Japan too was within decades. Japan was a country that notoriously produce lousy quality. Now, Japan is a country that is synonymous to good quality.

Brands like:-
Toyota
Honda
Samsung
Hyundai
Xiaomi
Huawei

are already giants if not growing giants.

Arab with their black gold for decades, could not develop as fast as the far east asians.

How can u be so sure that giving muslims (arab nations/malaysia/turkey/kazakhstan/indonesia) a hundred more years will be equal to the christians (western world)?

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post Jul 9 2015, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jul 9 2015, 10:39 PM)
Jata Negara '' Emiriah Granatah '' Dinasti Nasrid
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Mamluk Mesir (1250-1517)
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Tentera Islam '' Mamluk Mesir '' Pada Abad Ke-16

'' Pertempuran Yaunis Khan berlaku berhampiran dengan Gaza (1516) membawa kekalahan kepada Mamluk ''

Ketika '' Perang Mamluk-Uthmaniyyah (1516–1517) '' yang mana membawa kepada kejatuhan Kesultanan Mamluk dan penggabungan Syria, Mesir dan Semenanjung Arab sebagai wilayah di dalam Empayar Uthmaniyyah.
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Yup, it was during the dark ages of europe when the muslims were better equip in technology.

During the dark ages in europe, science was treated as if it was witchcraft if not mistaken...
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post Jul 9 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jul 9 2015, 11:11 PM)
This highlighted text

Topkek!

Korea took 40 years to be what it is today. China too or lesser. Japan too was within decades. Japan was a country that notoriously produce lousy quality. Now, Japan is a country that is synonymous to good quality.

Brands like:-
Toyota
Honda
Samsung
Hyundai
Xiaomi
Huawei

are already giants if not growing giants.

Arab with their black gold for decades, could not develop as fast as the far east asians.

How can u be so sure that giving muslims (arab nations/malaysia/turkey/kazakhstan/indonesia) a hundred more years will be equal to the christians (western world)?

A little meme for you:-
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So now instead of discussing the historical crusades you want to resort to the actual crusade ?

Ok.

Whatever rocks your boat man.

I'll give you the victory lap and don't forget to take home your trophy.

I'm out.
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post Jul 9 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(learn2earn8 @ Jul 9 2015, 08:57 PM)
see they were faithful people taking the pilgrimage to jerusalem, minding their own business  nod.gif
what happen? why did they become war mongering? wat interrupted their peaceful 'crusade' journey to Jerusalem?
why the cloth cross crux vow no longer a success hmm.gif imagine u want to go Mecca and suddenly Genghis Khan was at the gates, will u rage?
thus no Christian able to go for crusade to Jerusalem at that era. Pope Urban launch the first crusade and sent the crusaders , yeehaa!

it is important to note that the word derives from the Latin word crux ("cross"); and, as originally employed, a crusade was fundamentally driven by a Christian religious motivation
http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/Crusades
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I would know what happened to tose pilgrims but I do know what happened when muslims first time went to Mecca to perform the pilgrimage. They met with the pagan Meccan emmisaries and agree to the Treat of Hudaibiyah and came back the next year for pilgrimage.

Of course Mecca to Medinah wasn't as far as from Jerusalem to Europe but then .....

In any case we wouldn't know what happened if I met Genghiz Khan in Mecca because by the time his descendant reach Mecca, the Mongols already converted to Islam.
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post Jul 9 2015, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jul 9 2015, 10:01 PM)
Tentera Islam '' Bani Umaiyyah '' Tentera Pengawal, Infrantri dan Sukarelawan Muslimah Pada Abad Ke-9

Selepas zaman berakhirnya pemerintahan Khulafa al-Rasyidin ketika berlakunya peperangan semasa islam (Perang Jamal / Perang Unta)
user posted image
Tentera Islam '' Bani Umaiyyah '' Unit Kalvari Pada Abad Ke-10
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Tentera Islam '' Bani Abassiyyah (Jajahan Parsi) '' Pada Abad Ke-9

Saki baki Tentera Empayar Sassanid Parsi yang menyertai Bani Abassiyyah
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Tentera Islam '' Bani Abassiyyah (Jajahan Parsi) '' Unit Kalvari & Tentera Pengawal Infrantri Pada Abad Ke-9 & Ke 10
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no doubt abt tat only cucu, I can see the central asian stan r technologically advanced, highly developed and contribute a lot to world economic growth
dun u think the outcome of the ottoman empire was tragic? which islamic nation u think can carry the caliphate torch?
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jul 9 2015, 11:36 PM)
I would know what happened to tose pilgrims but I do know what happened when muslims first time went to Mecca to perform the pilgrimage. They met with the pagan Meccan emmisaries and agree to the Treat of Hudaibiyah and came back the next year for pilgrimage.

Of course Mecca to Medinah wasn't as far as from Jerusalem to Europe but then .....

In any case we wouldn't know what happened if I met Genghiz Khan in Mecca because by the time his descendant reach Mecca, the Mongols already converted to Islam.
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QUOTE(hanzyms @ Jul 9 2015, 01:16 PM)
Kedatangan Portugis ke tanah melayu adalah untuk mencari bakat bakat baru untuk menyertai kelab Sporting Lisbon supaya dapat melahirkan pemain setaraf Christiano Ronaldo
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jul 9 2015, 11:32 PM)
So now instead of discussing the historical crusades you want to resort to the actual crusade ?

Ok.

Whatever rocks your boat man.

I'll give you the victory lap and don't forget to take home your trophy.

I'm out.
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My previous response to you was BECAUSE!!! u wrote this:-

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Christians had a few hundred years head start. Give muslims a few more hundred years to be fair.


Isn't it relevant for me to resort to the "actual crusade"? hmm.gif

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