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post Jul 11 2015, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jul 11 2015, 07:58 PM)
same goes for rog swift lol . But those two are the best choice at the moment  cry.gif
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post Jul 11 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 11 2015, 06:46 PM)
But I'm going to be frank with everyone here, the 3.5GB vram thing? It's not an issue. Honestly, it's been blown out of propotion. Stop looking at just numbers and charts, they cannot tell the whole story.


this is correct.

the performance is as it is, when people buy the card, it's bought for the performance.

Having 3.5GB doesn't make it lose performance, just some people aren't happy to feel "cheated".

Technically Nvidia isn't wrong because it is 3.5GB + 0.5GB so total is still 4GB.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 11 2015, 06:46 PM)
I'm not going to disagree that 980Ti isn't a great card for 1080p, but it makes very little sense to buy a 980Ti to play at 1080p, 144hz (with or without Gsync). Paying a little more for a 1440p panel makes quite a significant difference, have some extra cash laying around and getting a 4k Gysnc monitor is seriously a whole new experience.
Why not? Practically every game will run above 60 fps on GTX 980 Ti even with settings set to the max.

If the person uses 1080p all the way then it'll last for ages.

Once gone to 4K, slap on another GTX 980 Ti. That'll be sweet.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2015, 09:23 PM)
this is correct.

the performance is as it is, when people buy the card, it's bought for the performance.

Having 3.5GB doesn't make it lose performance, just some people aren't happy to feel "cheated".

Technically Nvidia isn't wrong because it is 3.5GB + 0.5GB so total is still 4GB.
Why not? Practically every game will run above 60 fps on GTX 980 Ti even with settings set to the max.

If the person uses 1080p all the way then it'll last for ages.

Once gone to 4K, slap on another GTX 980 Ti. That'll be sweet.
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Jul 11 2015, 10:23 PM)
just won a lucky draw 980TI HOF today at orange estadium

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 11 2015, 06:18 PM)
yeah, its one of those odd releases that doesnt seem to have anywhere to fit in

its suffering from the "<Insert nex gen> is near, wait it out longer" syndrome doh.gif

on the bright side of going consumer than Extreme series, you save alot from not getting LGA2011 board

Skylake at least had the decency to support DDR3L instead of pure DDR4
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But hey, cheapest LGA2011V3 is a Hexacores, while the 1.4k i7 is still a Quadcores.

Mobo wise, LGA2012V3 is expect to last at least another year, while H97/Z97 pretty much EOL by this year end.

If you are rich enough to invest on high end i7 (consumer) and Z97, the Haswell-E combination is just marginally pricier while significantly more "future proof" as compared to the consumer counterpart.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 11 2015, 10:37 PM)
But hey, cheapest LGA2011V3 is a Hexacores, while the 1.4k i7 is still a Quadcores.

Mobo wise, LGA2012V3 is expect to last at least another year, while H97/Z97 pretty much EOL by this year end.

If you are rich enough to invest on high end i7 (consumer) and Z97, the Haswell-E combination is just marginally pricier while significantly more "future proof" as compared to the consumer counterpart.
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in a sense, yeah you do last longer

considering the rate Intel is "improving" its performance every generation
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Haha. Happy mah haswell e since chinese new year. I wont be changing anymore till intel come out 5ghz stock and o/c 6ghz stable on stock cooler. laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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notice after installing the driver and etc etc. my 1080p monitor suddenly added another resolution 2715x1527. will my monitor even display it? lol im using LG 23EA63V
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Jul 11 2015, 10:23 PM)
just won a lucky draw 980TI HOF today at orange estadium

thanks to Galax Malaysia...still drooling till now drool.gif  drool.gif

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So....how about donating your old gpu to me for free....... brows.gif


Anyway, the galaxy cards seem good. Last time when I bought galaxy card in year 2008, its fan was very loud.
This particular 980ti is semipassive or fan running all the time?
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Got the asus sli bridge for second rig. Upgrading its ssd while at it. Cheap man. Massive drop in prices from corsair
Decided main rig will get evga pro v2 bridge. Currently using evga pro v1 on it.
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post Jul 12 2015, 11:34 AM

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NVIDIA AIBs Silently Cut Prices on High-End Maxwell Cards


http://wccftech.com/nvidia-aibs-silently-c...29-gtx-980-479/




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QUOTE(meons @ Jul 12 2015, 11:34 AM)
NVIDIA AIBs Silently Cut Prices on High-End Maxwell Cards
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-aibs-silently-c...29-gtx-980-479/
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 12 2015, 10:58 AM)
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Got the asus sli bridge for second rig. Upgrading its ssd while at it. Cheap man. Massive drop in prices from corsair
Decided main rig will get evga pro v2 bridge. Currently using evga pro v1 on it.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2015, 09:23 PM)
this is correct.

the performance is as it is, when people buy the card, it's bought for the performance.

Having 3.5GB doesn't make it lose performance, just some people aren't happy to feel "cheated".

Technically Nvidia isn't wrong because it is 3.5GB + 0.5GB so total is still 4GB.
Why not? Practically every game will run above 60 fps on GTX 980 Ti even with settings set to the max.

If the person uses 1080p all the way then it'll last for ages.


Once gone to 4K, slap on another GTX 980 Ti. That'll be sweet.
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I suppose so if someone wants to remain at 1080p/60 for a very, very long time then the 980Ti is the way to go. But the way I see it, if one is going to get a 980Ti then a 1440p/144 + Gsync monitor combo is the way to go. Games are just so blissful with this setup.
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Can't disagree with that. GTX 980 Ti handles 1440p 144 G-sync comfortably.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 12 2015, 10:52 PM)
Can't disagree with that. GTX 980 Ti handles 1440p 144 G-sync comfortably.
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glad to hear that. biggrin.gif now for a new monitor... any recommendation for 1440p 144 g sync monitor ? cheapest to most exp. TN or IPS
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Some Zotac 980ti Amp Extreme Results

4770k@4.5ghz
Maximus VI Hero
Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400 CL11 2x8gb
Zotac 980ti Amp Extreme Single/Sli - 1468(+64)/4100(+500) @1.156/1.175v ( Stock Voltage/Stock Fan)
Nvidia 353.38 Driver. 3dmark Validation link below screenshots.
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There was no throttling so didnt bother with pl and fan adjustment.

Will post later oveclock for overvolt results. Max voltage is 1.243v

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QUOTE(moron88 @ Jul 13 2015, 12:15 AM)
glad to hear that. biggrin.gif now for a new monitor... any recommendation for 1440p 144 g sync monitor ? cheapest to most exp.  TN or IPS
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How about acer xb270hu rm 2599 quite cheap compared to importing it

Ips , gsync ,144hz

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post Jul 13 2015, 10:48 AM

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But I'm going to be frank with everyone here, the 3.5GB vram thing? It's not an issue. Honestly, it's been blown out of propotion. Stop looking at just numbers and charts, they cannot tell the whole story.


well thats why i read the reviews and they point out that games like mordor when ultra max settings will indeed use up lots of vram as high as near 6gb.

yes most games aren't as aggressive like that, but it's there, and most noticely for higher resolutions, or newer games like that on ultra settings.

sure if people don't mind lowering setting to not ultra then shouldn't be an issue. but i don't fall under the category of users that like playing with anything other than ultra doh.gif

but ignoring the vram capacity altogether that clearly affects some titles as non issue is clearly wrong way to go about it :/ as some of us would then rather get a card with 6gbvram or more.


so using an example try convincing people get a 4gb vram fiji over say a 980ti with 6gbvram especially at the same price point. thats a tough sell rolleyes.gif

not only do most titles perform slightly better fps for 980ti, but it also has more vram. and according to reviewers the capacity does matter. not me who said this, but professional reviewers go look :}


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Concluding

Our product reviews in the past few months and its conclusion are not any different opposed to everything that has happened in the past few days, the product still performans similar to what we have shown you as hey .. it is in fact the same product. The clusterfuck that Nvidia dropped here is simple, they have not informed the media or their customers about the memory partitioning and the challenges they face. Overall you will have a hard time pushing any card over 3.5 GB of graphics memory usage with any game unless you do some freaky stuff. The ones that do pass 3.5 GB mostly are poor console ports or situations where you game in Ultra HD or DSR Ultra HD rendering. In that situation I cannot guarantee that your overall experience will be trouble free, however we have a hard time detecting and replicating the stuttering issues some people have mentioned.


The Bottom line

Utilizing graphics memory after 3.5 GB can result into performance issues as the card needs to manage some really weird stuff in memory, it's nearly load-balancing. But fact remains it seems to be handling that well, it’s hard to detect and replicate oddities. If you unequivocally refuse to accept the situation at hand, you really should return your card and pick a Radeon R9 290X or GeForce GTX 980. However, if you decide to upgrade to a GTX 980, you will be spending more money and thus rewarding Nvidia for it. Until further notice our recommendation on the GeForce GTX 970 stands as it was, for the money it is an excellent performer. But it should have been called a 3.5 GB card with a 512MB L3 GDDR5 cache buffer.



sources
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/middle-ea...tress-test.html

http://wccftech.com/shadow-of-mordor-ultra...xture-6gb-vram/

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_di...s_6gb_of_vram/1


PS: that said, i seriously doubt blizzard games will ever be pushing the gpu much rolleyes.gif not holding my breath for legacy of the void. i suspect it's just gonna be as gpu intensive as the old sc2. it's only games like mordor, crysis that they push the limits.


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