better than WHQD driver

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=400347

why not this instead

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=400690

Heard tommorow some brands got voucher rebates.

600ppl. Hope to make it. Lost in the crowd.

Where you buy and how much you got it for?

check your pm.

i use DDU from guru3d to do a clean install everytime there is an update.


nah i don't agree 980ti is overkill for a 1080p.


review of 980ti
http://www.trustedreviews.com/nvidia-gefor...-results-page-2


most of the review benchmarks show that for a 1440p at ultra setting can most part reach the sweet spot of 60fps+ on average.

but if your planning using a 144hz gsync monitor, you can go above the capped 60fps when using vsync, by using the gsync. So you can take advantage of the higher fps.

only old monitors without gsync, you'd be interested only that the gpu performs on average 60fps ideally (because your locked there if your using triple buffer vsync).

So i'd say 980ti even on 1080p would be great with gsync ideally the acer predator gsync 144hz ips monitor :}

1440p for 27'' monitor is these days quite capable of being driven by the gpu especially by the 980 ti.

4k seems you need to lower your graphics settings. and especially lower AA which is less needed at this resolution.

the hardocp review pointed out what kind of settings tweaks was needed when trying to get a playable setting at the highest quality possible
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/15/...rd_gpu_review/7




Anyway there is actually a topic talking about this issue 1080p @60hz (vsync) monitor vs @144hz (gsync)
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/...last_for_1080p/


PS: another reason i think 980ti is needed even for 1080p, back when i bought the 680gtx, it barely lasted 2-3 years before i was not able to ultra setting some of the games by then so i rather reduce the chances of that by future proofing when possible whenever i get a gpu upgrade every 5 years or so.


This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 11 2015, 12:27 PM

hey its technology, remember how fast smartphones get obsolete?

well just have to deal with it

sides, 2-3 years is pretty darn long for a graphics card

well if you are talking about 1080p at 144hz monitor I suppose its fine but who wants to be stuck at that resolution ?
once you got a taste of WQHD or UHD its hard going back

Also , I have to disagree on future proofing graphic card . With the likes of NVIDIA 780 being outperform or same by 970 , the gap for new card would be higher . Not to mention the introduction of HBM ram I think I probably have to change cards every year

Funny thing is for processor I'm still stuck with sandybridge cant see any reason to upgrade apart from power efficiency , ddr4

980Ti is certainly not overkill for 1080p.

It's just perfect for it.

DDR4 isnt much different than DDR3 beside the obvious higher clock speed

same goes for power efficiency. Devil's Canyon still has 95W TDP but just lower idles, nothing much. Skylake reported to come with 65W, but well have to wait for full Broadwell 14nm first before speculating on Skylake

theres somewhat not much reason to upgrade, CPU side wise

im on Sandy as well, and im on the fence on upgrading at all

Ideal has put Intel i7 5775C on their pricelist btw, whooping ~RM1.4k

do want, but dem its expensive

I find it ridiculous. The price almost on par with 5820k already...

It will be one of the most rare CPU in the market in future. Skylake is around the corner, it will only be useful for those who readily had H97/Z97 mobo. But again high chances are those people already had Haswell (refresh) CPU and won't consider upgrading anytime soon. Now with this insane price, not much new end consumers will opt for them. There's also news that OEMs will skip Broadwell and directly to Skylake.

So in short, it will be one rare "pokemon".

yeah, its one of those odd releases that doesnt seem to have anywhere to fit in

its suffering from the "<Insert nex gen> is near, wait it out longer" syndrome

on the bright side of going consumer than Extreme series, you save alot from not getting LGA2011 board

Skylake at least had the decency to support DDR3L instead of pure DDR4

too many people to quote lel.

970 might be fine for 1080p for less than half the price which is substantial for most people, especially regular gamers (not truly enthusiast high end level pc gear).

but i think the 970s were 3.5gb vram

some gamers at ultra use almost 6vram like mordor. 1440p recommended is minimum 4gb, with 6gb being ideal. 4k need minimum 6gb. 2gb vram is hardly enough these days i know for a fact because i have a 680gtx i notice every now and then there was an error where it said ran out of vram (no joke). Hasn't happened lately, maybe because of newer gpu drivers ?


anyway here is the direct comparison 980ti vs 970
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti...GeForce-GTX-970



here is a dragon age inquisition benchmark for 1080 and 1440p resolution using different settings from low, medium, high and ultra.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/drago...k_review,7.html


notice ultra for 970 is 50fps


for 1440p it was only 33fps for ultra
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/drago...k-review,8.html





bottomline


970

pro
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- more than half the price of a 980ti
- sufficient for 1080p even at ultra for a heavy title like DAI



cons
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3.5vram instead of 4vram. How this may affect gaming
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198223-...emory-problem/2

ultra settings on intensive games like DAI will only reach between 40-50fps. whereas a 980ti would hit 60fps and probably higher.

if you invested in a gsync monitor with 144hz, you'd definitely want a higher end card like a 980ti to achieve much better fps thx to gsync technology :}

gsync ips 1440p monitor finally in malaysia

27" XB270HU-IPS RM2599 at Idealtech .... Sigh, if only IPMART would refund my money as soon as possible would grab this monitor without any hesitation

Still on 2x970s here, waiting for my 980Ti to arrive.

But I'm going to be frank with everyone here, the 3.5GB vram thing? It's not an issue. Honestly, it's been blown out of propotion. Stop looking at just numbers and charts, they cannot tell the whole story.

So far, only TWO games has had issues with the 970. That's Shadow of Mordor and GTAV, this is only if you max the texture resolution out. Seriously, just bump it down 1 notch. The difference in reality is hard to notice and guess what? No more "3.5gb vram limitation arghhhh!!".


I'm not going to disagree that 980Ti isn't a great card for 1080p, but it makes very little sense to buy a 980Ti to play at 1080p, 144hz (with or without Gsync). Paying a little more for a 1440p panel makes quite a significant difference, have some extra cash laying around and getting a 4k Gysnc monitor is seriously a whole new experience.

rm2599 is not bad for a ips 27'' with gsync.... and if thats not enough @ 144hz !!! oh and with stellar reviews especially their low latency, low input lag, and overdrive done correctly without issues (normal settings)
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xb270hu.htm






i paid like almost rm 3k for my u2413 ah-ips gb-led 24'' lcd 60hz (no gsync)


sure the acer is a white led backlight, but honestly, i'd trade the gb-r led backlight for the acer monitor because of the gsync and the other stellar performance for gamers. my minimum threshold is has to be ips, because i can't stand tn panels.

a asus rog tn panel can achieve 1ms response time. The acer ips was tested with 5.5ms gtg response time. This is a stellar result for an ips panel.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 11 2015, 06:53 PM

Except, the QC for the Acer XB270HU has not been stellar. Take a look over the OCN owner's club, the Reddit owner's club, and the Neogaf owner's club. The rate of RMAs has been quite high, even if it's not uncommon.

And remember, Acer Malaysia does not actually have the the XB27 as an official product here (or have they now, correct me if I'm wrong). If any issues, RMA will cost a lot of time and money.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jul 11 2015, 07:55 PM

same goes for rog swift lol . But those two are the best choice at the moment

Same here so dont worry wait for the next update

Yeah, damn sad.

LG should come up with theirs.
Dell should to.
BenQ... jeez man, with their focus on gaming monitors, it's like dead obvious to expect them to have 2 or 3 models by now.
Wouldn't mind Samsung either, but knowing them, they're not ones to pay for royalty hardware (so Freesync is more likely).

Heck even budget-friendly AOC should have a model by now.

I'm dissapointed that Gsync hasn't actually kicked off the way it should.