still dilemma non ref or ref 980ti.. if the difference in price is too huge, might go for ref then future cool it wit aio wc. gona hit the trigger this saturday !

i buy zotac gtx 980ti amp for 2899..someone offer me palit gtx 980 ti super jetstream for 2850 and got free batman game..so i think go non ref since it is bad day to build wc coz our ringgit so low

ooo..i think u want non reference cooler..my bad..take asus strix or msi g1 gaming..i think both are custom pcb..price around 3.3-3.4k 

Strix sux unless u want to wc. Normally voltage unlocked.
MSI G1 Gaming.. looks good atm.

Zotac Amp Extreme temps are insane. U guys can check it out on the 11th.

Insane in good or bad way?

too many people to quote lel.

970 might be fine for 1080p for less than half the price which is substantial for most people, especially regular gamers (not truly enthusiast high end level pc gear).

but i think the 970s were 3.5gb vram 

some gamers at ultra use almost 6vram like mordor. 1440p recommended is minimum 4gb, with 6gb being ideal. 4k need minimum 6gb. 2gb vram is hardly enough these days i know for a fact because i have a 680gtx    i notice every now and then there was an error where it said ran out of vram (no joke). Hasn't happened lately, maybe because of newer gpu drivers    ?
anyway here is the direct comparison 980ti vs 970
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti...GeForce-GTX-970
here is a dragon age inquisition benchmark for 1080 and 1440p resolution using different settings from low, medium, high and ultra.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/drago...k_review,7.html
notice ultra for 970 is 50fps
for 1440p it was only 33fps for ultra
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/drago...k-review,8.html
bottomline
970

pro
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- more than half the price of a 980ti
- sufficient for 1080p even at ultra for a heavy title like DAI
cons
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3.5vram instead of 4vram. How this may affect gaming
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198223-...emory-problem/2

ultra settings on intensive games like DAI will only reach between 40-50fps. whereas a 980ti would hit 60fps and probably higher.

if you invested in a gsync monitor with 144hz, you'd definitely want a higher end card like a 980ti to achieve much better fps thx to gsync technology :}

same goes for rog swift lol . But those two are the best choice at the moment 

this is correct.

the performance is as it is, when people buy the card, it's bought for the performance.

Having 3.5GB doesn't make it lose performance, just some people aren't happy to feel "cheated".

Technically Nvidia isn't wrong because it is 3.5GB + 0.5GB so total is still 4GB.
Why not? Practically every game will run above 60 fps on GTX 980 Ti even with settings set to the max.

If the person uses 1080p all the way then it'll last for ages.

Once gone to 4K, slap on another GTX 980 Ti. That'll be sweet.

well thats why i read the reviews and they point out that games like mordor when ultra max settings will indeed use up lots of vram as high as near 6gb.

yes most games aren't as aggressive like that, but it's there, and most noticely for higher resolutions, or newer games like that on ultra settings.

sure if people don't mind lowering setting to not ultra then shouldn't be an issue. but i don't fall under the category of users that like playing with anything other than ultra

but ignoring the vram capacity altogether that clearly affects some titles as non issue is clearly wrong way to go about it :/ as some of us would then rather get a card with 6gbvram or more.
so using an example try convincing people get a 4gb vram fiji over say a 980ti with 6gbvram especially at the same price point. thats a tough sell

not only do most titles perform slightly better fps for 980ti, but it also has more vram. and according to reviewers the capacity does matter. not me who said this, but professional reviewers go look :}
sources
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/middle-ea...tress-test.html

http://wccftech.com/shadow-of-mordor-ultra...xture-6gb-vram/

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_di...s_6gb_of_vram/1
PS: that said, i seriously doubt blizzard games will ever be pushing the gpu much    not holding my breath for legacy of the void. i suspect it's just gonna be as gpu intensive as the old sc2. it's only games like mordor, crysis that they push the limits.

does that come with water cooling block ? 

nm found it
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-4999-KR

799.99 USD = 3,043.20 MYR
even with gst is only 3225.792, so why is the msi more expensive    shipping costs?

Dat 8+8+6pins connectors

The stock cooler looks a little underwhelming if the card really drew over 400W of power...

980ti kingpin
The prices are based on asic.

Asic 80+ usd 1049.

Thanks everyone who reply my question. appreciated. BTW, I'm overclocking my gpu now can I only increase the core clock and left the memory clock untouch?

You're right but the input lag part isn't a big deal if you have a 144Hz screen and able to drive a decent FPS out of it. I have the 4K Acer and ROG Swift in my room now and the 144Hz is certainly a whole new experience altogether

Haha same here.

I dont buy the whatever sync crap.

Now i already itching 4k.

Just hoping the pascal flagship can 60fps in 4k in single card.