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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V15 (new era pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Jun 10 2016, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 10:18 AM)
Not all, the MSI model as in that video you shared is priced lower.
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What I meant was the price you can get from retailers now on Amazon, NCIX or Newegg, none of them reflect the MSRP, they're bloated price. If potential buyers wanna feel they got their value for money, they'll have to wait for the price to settle. Even so, for the amount you save, you get a card that has no significant performance delta compared to the FE. The only thing loathed right now is the FE card price. As the 1080 inches closer and closer to the price tag of the higher end Ti model and Titans, at those price brackets, a difference of USD100 is pocket change compared to the actual price you have to pay. The reason why those pricing difference gets gamers riled up is because the 1080 predecessor, the 980, was still marked as the card in the value segment, and as such, treated with much price scrutiny by these gamers who values every single dollar difference. The 1080 however, has gone past that USD500 "value" proposition to warrant nitpicking over those price difference. Of course, this is all IMO in my part.

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post Jun 10 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 10:38 AM)
EVGA has international warranty. biggrin.gif
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That's a great tips, Goldfries !

Apparently products shipped since 2011 eligible for international warranty
http://www.evga.com/articles/00671/

Anyone knows if there is any tax for importing GPU ?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 10:38 AM)
EVGA has international warranty. biggrin.gif
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Which local distro will honour THT international warranty?
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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Jun 10 2016, 11:14 AM)
That's a great tips, Goldfries !

Apparently products shipped since 2011 eligible for international warranty
http://www.evga.com/articles/00671/

Anyone knows if there is any tax for importing GPU ?
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6% GST
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post Jun 10 2016, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 10 2016, 10:45 AM)
What I meant was the price you can get from retailers now on Amazon, NCIX or Newegg, none of them reflect the MSRP, they're bloated price.


Ehhh, FE looks MSRP to me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....ICE&PageSize=30

And the many AiB being cheaper.

As for the MSI, I don't know why by on Newegg it costs more than FE but here http://ecshweb.pchome.com.tw/search/v3.3/?q=gtx%201080 you can get it cheaper.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 10:38 AM)
EVGA has international warranty. biggrin.gif
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I evga fanatic can vouch 4 that laugh.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 01:08 PM)
Ehhh, FE looks MSRP to me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....ICE&PageSize=30

And the many AiB being cheaper.

As for the MSI, I don't know why by on Newegg it costs more than FE but here http://ecshweb.pchome.com.tw/search/v3.3/?q=gtx%201080 you can get it cheaper.
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I had them all lined up in NowInStock.net. Didnt bother to do updated search since I last got mine nearly two weeks ago, good that their actual price are now reflected instead of bloated.

Then it all comes down to the necessity of overclocking, cooling/noise ratio, and fitting into cases.

1.Overclocking has proven to be same, some even slight win to the FE, because of the voltage lockdown, otherwise we notch that up to silicon lottery. Cooling/noise ratio depends on how much overclocking you're gonna do versus the performance you're demanding.

2. 4K at 60Hz at Very High or Ultra minus SS and brand-specific effects like Gameworks off, is definitely attainable at levels of relative quietness on the FE, so that's a wash when you compare it to AIB cards (Sure, you can get more quiet, but if you wanna be anal about it and compare more quiet than quiet, I suppose you game either in silence, or lower volume than everyone else.).

3. Fitting into cases can be a definitive reason why one have to chose against the AIB offerings. FE cards are slimmer. FE cards blow hot air out of the case. AIB cards are fatter (some take that girth and size as the sign of its powerfulness, when in actual fact, irregardless of how many power phase you stick on the fat board, it's locked down by the voltage limitations), and therefore, limits the size of cases you can shrink down to, other than the standard midsize towers, which to me is a waste of space if you wanna place this in a crowded entertainment cabinet. IF you game in a room that wont be in public view, then case fitting isnt an issue, however you still have all those hot air swirling around in your case (AIB cards dump hot air back into the case, versus the blower style cooler on FE cards) and you need to ensure positive airflow in your case, which means your case either have to be amply large to allow that positive airflow, AND fitted with fans to promote that positive airflow, which depending on the fans you choose, may introduce noise by itself. Back to square one.

FE cards are prime candidates for liquid cooling, although EKWB has announced that they are supporting non-FE cards from EVGA for their waterblocks. Personally I'd take either a slim FE card to fit into a slim case, or if I go midsize tower, I liquid cool the card for maximum temperature and noise control (although again, no point overclocking now since, again, Nvidia voltage lockdown).

So if it were based on common sense and logic, there is no point in going liquid cooling because of that voltage lockdown, therefore stick with stock air cooling. Air cooling cards comes in FE and AIB variety. Slim cases? FE. Midsize tower and larger? The cheapest AIB card you can find. Lazy to overclock or just wanna stick it in and forget? Pre-OCed AIB cards.

Personally to me, placing PC towers in living rooms in plain view is obnoxious. There are nicer looking tower cases, but they still scream "PC" to me, therefore a huge NO personally. PCs residing in the living room area need to blend into the the aesthetics of the area itself, or plain hidden from sight. Hence slim cases or out of sight somewhere else. Not to mention the snaking tentacles of cables sprawled hideously around as well.

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Jun 10 2016, 12:23 PM)
6% GST
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Also, probably have custom duties also.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Jun 10 2016, 02:30 PM)
Also, probably have custom duties also.
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And at the end of the day cost is same laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Jun 10 2016, 03:34 PM

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I think computer parts no more custom duty?

according to this site lah : http://tariff.customs.gov.my/

from my understanding, only 6% GST.
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QUOTE(ragecat @ Jun 10 2016, 03:34 PM)
I think computer parts no more custom duty?

according to this site lah : http://tariff.customs.gov.my/

from my understanding, only 6% GST.
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You are right. Even before the GST era, computer parts were only subjected to sales tax, no duty.
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QUOTE(ragecat @ Jun 10 2016, 03:34 PM)
I think computer parts no more custom duty?

according to this site lah : http://tariff.customs.gov.my/

from my understanding, only 6% GST.
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I think if your item is delivered by pos malaysia at the end, GST is waived until end of september. I don't know the exact details but I bought a headset from singapore 2 weeks ago for RM700+ and I didn't have to pay GST.

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From C-Zone

- STRIX-GTX1080-O8G-GAMING - RM 3779
- STRIX-GTX1080-8G-GAMING - RM 3619
- TURBO-GTX1080-8G - RM 3329
- GTX1080-8G FE - RM 3619
- STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING - RM 2599
- STRIX-GTX1070-8G-GAMING - RM 2499
- GTX1070-8G FE - RM 2499

Even FE also 2499. sad.gif
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post Jun 11 2016, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 10 2016, 11:43 PM)
From C-Zone

- STRIX-GTX1080-O8G-GAMING - RM 3779
- STRIX-GTX1080-8G-GAMING - RM 3619
- TURBO-GTX1080-8G - RM 3329
- GTX1080-8G FE - RM 3619
- STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING - RM 2599
- STRIX-GTX1070-8G-GAMING - RM 2499
- GTX1070-8G FE - RM 2499

Even FE also 2499. sad.gif
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LEL. So much for "cheaper than FE" eh? tongue.gif As I recalled, the MSI FE was RM3319, or around that range.

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That pricing for 1080 though... I'm just glad I got a 980ti when the price was still nice >_<
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 11 2016, 12:09 AM)
LEL. So much for "cheaper than FE" eh? tongue.gif As I recalled, the MSI FE was RM3319, or around that range.
Their FE price is ridiculous to being with. biggrin.gif

As much as I like ASUS products, I'm staying away from their graphics card line-up. I'm with with their mobo but just not the graphics card, too much a premium to pay.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 11 2016, 12:26 AM)
Their FE price is ridiculous to being with. biggrin.gif

As much as I like ASUS products, I'm staying away from their graphics card line-up. I'm with with their mobo but just not the graphics card, too much a premium to pay.
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Wait for Palit, PNY or Lotac. Those would be "cheap" (relatively). Might not equate that "affordability" with quality though with some of those brands. tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2016, 12:32 AM

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I'll be getting a Zotac 1070 in the coming days. Heck my rig would be powering it at today's Nvidia event. biggrin.gif

Can't wait to try it out. No 1080 also nmind, will test out the 1070 against GTX 980 Ti.
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There are few less well known brand GTX1080 FE in here that costs around RM3,200.

For example, Zotac, Digital Alliance and etc.

Well known brands GTX1080 FE are about RM3,600 to RM3,700 over here based on the current forex rates.

However, shops here tend to quote price even they do not have stocks as they mainly operate as agents.

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