Stock only arrive on mid/end June

ty for the info.

my wc seller source told me that he may have stock for 1080 with custom waterblock with together soon.




my only issue is.... if i do get the reference design, i rather avoid founder edition, and instead get the AIB reference design that will most likely cost 100usd less.

for me my budget is probably a non founder reference aib with a water cooling block.



looking at the performance charts 1080p (or for me 1920x1200 ) performance at ultra settings will be fine in all games. and even 8gb vram is ample enough for my needs (with 2gb vram i keep getting crashes in tos every now and then citing gpu vram as a likely source >_>: maybe i run too many stuff in background or my gpu is spoilt).

4k seems playable but it's not a steady 60 fps, but more like 30-50fps from what i see in the charts. these are fps at 4k with ultra settings by the way. probably playable but the dream is 60 fps or more at 4k

me personally, as long as i can 1920x1200 at ultra, i'm perfectly fine with. Also as a bonus the pascal comes with 10bit HEVC (i'm also assuming it does 10bit h264 as well?) support which will be great for anime viewing via madvr/hc-mpc/lav filters for reduced banding, also better 10bit colors which my monitor is capable of.

for a 980ti user i doubt going to a 1080 is really worth it, but for me coming from a 2012 680gtx it's definitely worth it. probably even better if i can wait 2 more years for volta when HBM2 comes out, but not too worried about that. the only improvement i see for a volta is mostly making 4k ultra settings at playable frame rates more consistent. Other than that the pascal seems to do what i need it to do (assuming they didn't screw up on the async compute for dx12 games).







http://www.anandtech.com/show/10326/the-nv...-1080-preview/2

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 20 2016, 06:47 AM

by the way when does AIB reference cards come out ? is it in june ?

thanks for sharing

at least better overall vs 980 lah

Haha surely june dang

Me too.. I'm planning for 2k resolution.
2k to 4k seems like no difference to me.. lol..
I assume 2016 year end/early Jan 2017?

So you saying coming from 2k i better upgrade 8k been in the zone 2k like 3 years already

hi guys.. its worth to get gtx 750ti for rm 420..brand new?

planning playing doom 2016 with medium setting on full hd (dunno can support or not)

since this gc already older.. year 2014..

Jz graduated 2 years ago.. been using laptop ever since.. from my siggy..

After that bought laptop again, paired with the 2k display..
dayum the quality...

I regret liao.. so
I'm going to full desktop this year.. with dual 2k monitor setup

in the pod cast discussing 1080 they cover whether the pascal is true async compute or not. it isn't but they do bring up a good point.

at the end of the day does the game with async compute enabled, is there a situation where the 1080 would under perform allowing a weaker amd card beat it becauz of this? the answer seems to be a know.

whether they are simply pandering to nvidia as fanboys i'm not sure, hence why i would rather rely on multiple sources on this subject, but thats their opinion.

but to my understanding they added 2 things for nvidia's way to handle async.





Source:
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Card...al-Gamers/Async

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 20 2016, 04:14 PM

These days I've been meddling with Ultrawide gaming. 3440x1440 is just too immersive to give up, 4k can rot for now. Add to the fact that gsync works at this res, it's just pure gaming bliss.

but even for people with no monitors that support 4k resolution, they can use the mode that converts 4k sources to their monitor native resolution. the benefit being an affect similar to AA ? is it worth using 4k in that way, or to just simply use SMAA at 1080p without doing that?

If AA is available, it is better to use AA rather than bruteforcing it.

When DSR is enabled, I personally think that it is rather blurry (33% smoothness in NVCP). So, it seems like FXAA, except the texture is sharper. But the performance cost is not worth it.

Could be that markup price is for early adopters like smartphones? If this is the case, the price when stock is available will be close to the announced mrsp.

Pascal will never have have true Async compute as its not built on hardware architecture. Nvidia has to do it on the software side by load balancing and pre-emption. Though GTX 1080 does way better than GTX 980 Ti when it comes to Async-Compute, they still lack behind AMD Fury X when it comes to Async Compute. And Fury is the previous gen AMD architecture. The gap could be even bigger when AMD comes out with 14 mm FinFet Vega GPUs (touted as the successor to AMD Fury series). Future games will run on DX12. Already rumours some games like Battlefield 5 could exclusively be on DX12/ Windows 10 only. Guess I'll wait for to see how things pan out before deciding on my GTX 970 SLI upgrade



Full details: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-async-compute-detailed/

oo then sounds like 4k is not relevant to me then since my monitor doesn't natively do 4k anyway.

personally i didn't experience 4k yet... but wasn't 4k suppose to benefit big screen tvs in the living room? Whereas for pc monitor where you sit closer, for sizes like 24'' to maybe like 36'' 1080p was good enuff ?

only the bigger pixel sized screens would mostly benefit from 4k i thought?

Depends on the game in my experience.
There are still games which don't have proper DPI scaling above 1080p. So downsampling from 4k will make text way too small or the UI too puny.


Not really. 1080p at 36" with a viewing distance of 2-3 feet is simply not feasible to me. It's blurry, it's too easy to see the pixel gate on screen.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: May 20 2016, 06:04 PM

Haha oh

Good luck in getting then

wow just saw this




judging by this ...


pascal is maxwell on steroids pretty much but refined. except that async compute though improved, still is brute force and not the hardware solution like amds we were hoping for. if compared to amd which shows performance gains with async compute and dx12, the pascals wasn't that impressive.

but at the end of the day i'm sure all that matters is the FPS regardless of the inefficiencies present. so i feel that peoples gripe with 1080 async implementation is had they followed a route similar to amds for it, they would have managed to make the pascal even more efficient and thus living up to the dx12 dream or reduced overheads = increase fps.

maybe volta will indeed have those architectural changes to fix this issue once and for all, but theres no info if that is the case or not.

I don't understand why it is regarded as "brute force" when it is performing better using less resources? I'm sure they're actually very efficient since they can perform better than AMD with lower count of cores and power consumption. You wouldn't say Intel CPU (having less core) is inefficient compared to AMD's CPU, right?