Short answer - if u are not a full/part-time trader relying on your investments profits to finance your (current) life...u DON'T NEED realised profits as a measure of the success of your investments.

Community service again...

Don't feed the troll Devil's Advocate

Ini abang give tipsy again......

For point 2, I think you can refer to the profits from the HDD players..

The profits from next few quarters should be leng chai....


Maybe gark can help. 

Short answer - if u are not a full/part-time trader relying on your investments profits to finance your (current) life...u DON'T NEED realised profits as a measure of the success of your investments.

Community service again...

Don't feed the troll Devil's Advocate

I went to check Dufu... tadak leng chai. JCY ada handsome but mainly because of USD. After reading JCY report I still skeptical about HDD related industries:

Detailed Analysis for current quarter and cumulative period
The Group recorded a revenue of RM479.8 million for the reporting quarter and RM1,476.4 million for
the cumulative period of the first 9 months of current financial year, representing an increment of 6.0%
and 5.1% respectively compared to previous year's corresponding periods. These were due mainly to
the better average exchange rate of USD against Ringgit Malaysia in the reporting quarter, amid at a
lower sales volume.
The Group recorded a net profit after tax of RM32.6 million for the reporting quarter and RM133.9
million for the cumulative period of the first 9 months of current financial year, compared to net profit
after tax of RM25.0 million and RM93.4 million respectively in the previous year's corresponding
periods, the improvement on profit after tax was due mainly to the higher revenue as described above,
improved operational efficiency in the reporting periods and exchange gain resulted from translating
financial assets and liabilities for the cumulative period.

The outlook for Total Addressable Market (“TAM”) for HDD is challenging, despite the recent
launching of Windows 10, a major rebound in PC demand in the near future is unlikely.
The demand in enterprise class HDDs is affected by the poor global economic environment with
financial uncertainties in Europe and the slowdown in China. The demand for HDD is also
adversely affected by the strong U.S. Dollar. However, the weakening of Ringgit Malaysia
against U.S. Dollar has a positive effect on our revenue.
JCY will continue to leverage its competitive strengths so as to intensify its efforts on improving
its operational efficiency

I don't have an answer to that. You're like asking how much is enough for you to sell. I learn my lesson not to hold on a profit for too long. Rather make less then have all of them erase.

I kinda don't agree with this part "u don't need realised profits as a measure of the success of your investments".

By holding off your unrealised profit when it already reach your target and seeing your losses get wiped out is a failure.

Knowing when to buy is as important as knowing when to sell. I'm sure you in the market long enough to know about it.

You can have A LOT of unrealised profit, but you don't realise it's no use.

I was only making a point to him that once you started investing, you will have unrealised profit/loss. Because he was earlier saying what's the point of holding on to unrealised profit. But once you start investing, you will have unrealised profit and loss.

You can have A LOT of unrealised profit, but you don't realise it's no use.

I was only making a point to him that once you started investing, you will have unrealised profit/loss. Because he was earlier saying what's the point of holding on to unrealised profit. But once you start investing, you will have unrealised profit and loss.

U buy at 1.00
Market sentiment bad, dropped to 80 sen
But that company is fundamentally SOLID
And u don't need the money to buy your dog food and necklace for your mistress and your condoms supply
Next week, up to 1.20

I'm sure u know I'm implying which company, right?

If u cut loss at 90 or 80 sen, see what u are losing?

It's like you have a lot of money.. but you don't. Right?
I think you misunderstand me a bit.. I understand that you can have that.. my question is what do you do with it?

Other scenario.
U buy a stock 1.00
2 weeks it went up 1.50
U sell?
50% already wor.
U hold on thinking it's only 2 weeks.
Although only hit your individual target of 20% per stock
Market sentiment turn bad.
1.50 down to 1.00.
Worst off 80cent now.
How?

VALUATION, valuation

If u think it can go all the way to 2, or even 3

Why sell at 1.50? Why worry at 80 sen?
Again, assuming u don't need the funds anytime soon. Market sentiment mar, let it fluctuate lor...

For me, I'm no trader, I don't set target profit or stop loss. I invest on valuation.

Maybe u trader, different

Conflicting yourself bro.
I thought I heard u invest in dunno what stock.
The stock moved up and the DY got too low.
So u sold it off.
So what valuation?
U not confident it can move up more?

HDD is sunset industry already ler.. in fact desktop pc also going sunset soon...

Solid state media is the future.. it is used in your smart phone, ipads, notebook, pc etc ... although relatively expensive for high volume.

Better yet.. 3G/4G/LTE phone signal chips is even better, everything use them now. Can you guess which company makes em? 

I went to check Dufu... tadak leng chai. JCY ada handsome but mainly because of USD. After reading JCY report I still skeptical about HDD related industries:

Detailed Analysis for current quarter and cumulative period
The Group recorded a revenue of RM479.8 million for the reporting quarter and RM1,476.4 million for
the cumulative period of the first 9 months of current financial year, representing an increment of 6.0%
and 5.1% respectively compared to previous year's corresponding periods. These were due mainly to
the better average exchange rate of USD against Ringgit Malaysia in the reporting quarter, amid at a
lower sales volume.

The Group recorded a net profit after tax of RM32.6 million for the reporting quarter and RM133.9
million for the cumulative period of the first 9 months of current financial year, compared to net profit
after tax of RM25.0 million and RM93.4 million respectively in the previous year's corresponding
periods, the improvement on profit after tax was due mainly to the higher revenue as described above,
improved operational efficiency in the reporting periods and exchange gain resulted from translating
financial assets and liabilities for the cumulative period.

The outlook for Total Addressable Market (“TAM”) for HDD is challenging, despite the recent
launching of Windows 10, a major rebound in PC demand in the near future is unlikely.
The demand in enterprise class HDDs is affected by the poor global economic environment with
financial uncertainties in Europe and the slowdown in China. The demand for HDD is also
adversely affected by the strong U.S. Dollar. However, the weakening of Ringgit Malaysia
against U.S. Dollar has a positive effect on our revenue.
JCY will continue to leverage its competitive strengths so as to intensify its efforts on improving
its operational efficiency

Let's say u choose to hold. Market turn bad. Boom. All profit wiped out. U are back with that question.

VALUATION, valuation

If u think it can go all the way to 2, or even 3

Why sell at 1.50? Why worry at 80 sen?

Again, assuming u don't need the funds anytime soon. Market sentiment mar, let it fluctuate lor...

For me, I'm no trader, I don't set target profit or stop loss. I invest on valuation.

So why did DIGI's valuation suddenly turn bad the day you sold it?

Right? I need to see the point so I'm asking all of you experienced traders and investors.. it always seems as if I'm missing the point somewhere. You seem to make money you can't spend and can lose tomorrow.