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TakoC
post Aug 12 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 11 2015, 04:44 PM)
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DiGi looks attractive at this point in price? Any comment?
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post Sep 10 2015, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 10 2015, 10:19 AM)
Boom!  tongue.gif

Been busy lately .. no time to post..  laugh.gif

Anyway updates.

No major change in potfolio.. sold cenbond for a bit of profit..

Picked up more tiger bank and Tenaga during the downturn..

Continue to average down on OnG counters... sweat.gif  now got a bit of relief.. Ah Boon gonna whack me on that one..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Lucky my SGD potfolio is doing ok.. due to forex..  laugh.gif
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O&G? Thought you are only holding SAKP?
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post Sep 10 2015, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 10 2015, 05:15 PM)
Waaaa...... hide so long.... come out only when Ah Gark come out.....
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Been really busy with work, Boon gor! Haven't surf here for so long. Hope all has been well from your side smile.gif


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post Sep 10 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Sep 10 2015, 07:18 PM)
Now got tips since gark is back...

Last year also he disappear around May/Jun. I think he goes to jungle. He burns down forest. We get the haze here. Then he comes back in Sep/Oct.
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Yo bro! You talking about me?

I can't even remember when I disappeared. Lol.
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 11 2015, 10:29 AM)
Not only SKP.. a few others too...  whistling.gif
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I don't even bother to average down on my O&G stocks now. But in a few blue chips during the correction. Making some good profit now smile.gif

Year end window dressing coming too tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 11 2015, 03:13 PM)
Can't understand this.. what is a good profit if you can't spend it smile.gif
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Can't understand you too.. U mean unrealised profit?
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 11 2015, 03:17 PM)
Yes.. you can't spend your unrealized profit.. it's so weird, like you have money but don't have money smile.gif
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You're weird. So let's say you buy a stock, you make a good profit although you hold less than 2 weeks for example.. Or 1 month..

And you so happen to share it out say you making a good profit. I'm sure you have paper profit which you still holding.

Unless you said you will only share you profit once it's been realised than I have nothing to say.
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 11 2015, 03:23 PM)
Maybe I'm weird, I think money is something you can spend smile.gif see let's say I have Rm500 this month, I can spend Rm100 this month (for example.) But if you have say Rm500 paper profit, how do you budget?
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Answer me my question above first.

1. Do you have paper profit?

2. If yes, if you don't ever share you make some good profit on some stocks you haven't realised then I understand your initial intention of your comment.
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post Sep 11 2015, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 11 2015, 03:31 PM)
1. I did once. I had this exact same problem.

2.No I don't usually share any profits.. but all the same I'd like an answer to that because I had this "how much do you budget" problem.
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I don't have an answer to that. You're like asking how much is enough for you to sell. I learn my lesson not to hold on a profit for too long. Rather make less then have all of them erase.

As to not sharing your profit, I guess I slightly understand now. And u said you did have unrealised profit once. That's a little confusing. When you invest, you'll have unrealised profit or loss. Even if it's 1 day, 1%. But since you said you don't share it, means it's all good.
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post Sep 11 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2015, 03:57 PM)
Short answer - if u are not a full/part-time trader relying on your investments profits to finance your (current) life...u DON'T NEED realised profits as a measure of the success of your investments. sleep.gif

Community service again...

Don't feed the troll Devil's Advocate yawn.gif
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I kinda don't agree with this part "u don't need realised profits as a measure of the success of your investments".

By holding off your unrealised profit when it already reach your target and seeing your losses get wiped out is a failure.

Knowing when to buy is as important as knowing when to sell. I'm sure you in the market long enough to know about it.

You can have A LOT of unrealised profit, but you don't realise it's no use.

I was only making a point to him that once you started investing, you will have unrealised profit/loss. Because he was earlier saying what's the point of holding on to unrealised profit. But once you start investing, you will have unrealised profit and loss.
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post Sep 11 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2015, 04:06 PM)
U buy at 1.00
Market sentiment bad, dropped to 80 sen
But that company is fundamentally SOLID
And u don't need the money to buy your dog food and necklace for your mistress and your condoms supply
Next week, up to 1.20

I'm sure u know I'm implying which company, right? whistling.gif

If u cut loss at 90 or 80 sen, see what u are losing? wink.gif
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Other scenario.
U buy a stock 1.00
2 weeks it went up 1.50
U sell?
50% already wor.
U hold on thinking it's only 2 weeks.
Although only hit your individual target of 20% per stock
Market sentiment turn bad.
1.50 down to 1.00.
Worst off 80cent now.
How?
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post Sep 11 2015, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 11 2015, 04:07 PM)
It's like you have a lot of money.. but you don't. Right? smile.gif
I think you misunderstand me a bit.. I understand that you can have that.. my question is what do you do with it?
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It's like asking me if I know how to time the market I would have made 2 years worth of target profit in 1 year time.

So share with us. How u do with it?

Buy stock 1.00. Not trading.
Food fundamental stock
2 weeks up 20%
U sell? 2 weeks only.
Or u will hold?

Lots of thing to consider right?

Let's say u choose to hold. Market turn bad. Boom. All profit wiped out. U are back with that question.

If you choose to sell, good job. Lady Luck with is you. You time the market out of luck + market prediction.
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post Sep 11 2015, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2015, 04:21 PM)
VALUATION, valuation

If u think it can go all the way to 2, or even 3

Why sell at 1.50? Why worry at 80 sen?
Again, assuming u don't need the funds anytime soon. Market sentiment mar, let it fluctuate lor...

For me, I'm no trader, I don't set target profit or stop loss. I invest on valuation.

Maybe u trader, different icon_rolleyes.gif
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Conflicting yourself bro.
I thought I heard u invest in dunno what stock.
The stock moved up and the DY got too low.
So u sold it off.
So what valuation?
U not confident it can move up more?

Valuation very subjective one la. U value a stock using PE.
PE valuation is very subjective. 5 years average peers PE u don't take, take 3 years. Both PE too low. U exclude some peers that drive down your PE.

So what valuation?

I'm not saying u're wrong. I'm trying to know when to sell off a stock too. But for now I always regret I didn't sell. Lol. Recent 1 year la.

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post Sep 11 2015, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2015, 04:47 PM)
I sold at price where DY = <4% whistling.gif
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I'm not with wood.

But malaysia telco generally grow at 4% p.a over the year. So which means you won't be interested in telco stocks?

If you want 6-7% DY telco stocks, Indo thai telco stocks offer that.
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:12 AM

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Wow. After 2 days the discussion still haven't end? Lol.

I remember he started because of what I posted. Actually thought he's experienced like Boon, or gark they all. So many stars ma. Lol.

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post Sep 13 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 13 2015, 10:16 AM)
You have many stars too.. smile.gif
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That wasn't a post to insult you man. First impression la.
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post Sep 13 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 13 2015, 10:18 AM)
pay more brokerage to your remisier ....

their tips are far more accurate than all those web tips .. lol

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There are 2 types of remisier. One that have syndicate connection, and one that don't know anything.

Just ask you to buy, end of the day they ask you sell earn commission.
Second is with syndicate connection. They buy follow syndicate, ask you buy. They sell after. Lol.
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post Sep 14 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 14 2015, 11:04 AM)
by resigning or committing hara-kiri? laugh.gif
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Later impose more tax. GG!
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post Sep 16 2015, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 15 2015, 03:18 PM)
Sudah jual liao.. this morning whistling.gif

Rally no power already..  smile.gif
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Yeah wei. Why no power?
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post Sep 17 2015, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 17 2015, 11:41 AM)
you guys previously condemn so much. i wanna buy at 1.50 also scared by you guys. lol....
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1.50 would be a good entry.

It gapped up one day at 1.60+ and been on uptrend since.


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