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Eng_Tat
post Aug 21 2015, 09:36 AM

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i doubt the tenant is particular with a/c brands. i have fujiaire, sharp, lg, york, panasonic, haier a/c in my condos, never seen any complain about brands, as long as they are cold they should be happy about it. 1hp hisense is around rm500, sharp basic now is around rm700. installation is around rm150/each. even washing machine i usually provide sanyo brand only.

QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 19 2015, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys I plan to install hisense airconds to my condo unit meant for rental. As they are cheaper.

But I also worry about perception issue of the tenants.

Anyone care to comment ? It is worthwhile ?
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 09:36 AM)
i doubt the tenant is particular with a/c brands. i have fujiaire, sharp, lg, york, panasonic, haier a/c in my condos, never seen any complain about brands, as long as they are cold they should be happy about it. 1hp hisense is around rm500, sharp basic now is around rm700. installation is around rm150/each. even washing machine i usually provide sanyo brand only.
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Thank you for the insight. I am trying to find the justification to go for the Hisense. RM500 is a lot of difference compared to RM1000. Apparently RM500 might be just 1 promotional unit, additional units could be higher price.
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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 21 2015, 09:43 AM)
Thank you for the insight. I am trying to find the justification to go for the Hisense. RM500 is a lot of difference compared to RM1000. Apparently RM500 might be just 1 promotional unit, additional units could be higher price.
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It doesn't save your money. It is either you pay high price, save later or get low price, pay higher later.

It is up to you.
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:57 AM

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not much idea about the hisense promo. my last purchase was last yr, i gt the sharp basic model for rm850 inclusive installation. you may check courts sometimes there are cheap for basic a/c. i think other cheaper aternative you can check on haier and midea as well.

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Thank you for the insight. I am trying to find the justification to go for the Hisense. RM500 is a lot of difference compared to RM1000. Apparently RM500 might be just 1 promotional unit, additional units could be higher price.
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 21 2015, 09:43 AM)
Thank you for the insight. I am trying to find the justification to go for the Hisense. RM500 is a lot of difference compared to RM1000. Apparently RM500 might be just 1 promotional unit, additional units could be higher price.
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You want pay higher TNB bill and more troubleshoot in future also up to you biggrin.gif

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post Aug 21 2015, 10:02 AM

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ozak, cheaper a/c no good? we need to keep budget low when we rent out out condos, of coz the a/c must be reliable as well. i think most a/c can last 5-10yrs without issue.

QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 21 2015, 09:48 AM)
It doesn't save your money. It is either you pay high price, save later or get low price, pay higher later.

It is up to you.
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post Aug 21 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 21 2015, 09:48 AM)
It doesn't save your money. It is either you pay high price, save later or get low price, pay higher later.

It is up to you.
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There is some truth in what you say. But as far as aircond is concerned, I tend to believe usage is another BIG factor. If the place is a very dusty area, it tends to break down faster due to lack of scheduled cleaning and maintenance. And it happens that the breakdown is on a cheaper brand, people tend to think say "you see, it's cheap brand, so it breaks down!". Breakdown on the more expensive brand, people will say "yeah, I only got the breakdown now, if cheaper brand if would have breakdown earlier!"

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 10:02 AM)
ozak, cheaper a/c no good? we need to keep budget low when we rent out out condos, of coz the a/c must be reliable as well. i think most a/c can last 5-10yrs without issue.
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Actually own a Aircon is never consider cheap at all.
Maintenaces & monthly bills.

So why go for budget too low.
As a good basic Aircon should have thier selling point and value.

Lower price meant doesn't consider too good, cause of needs consider for usage everyday an over 8 hrs should consider for at least Rm1k >

The breakdown and cost of maintenace with input watts and cooling wise will be better than the lower budget models.

Such as Rm800 < or lower ppls they will planing for using when in hot day only or seldon open for more than 5 hrs a daily usage.

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 10:02 AM)
ozak, cheaper a/c no good? we need to keep budget low when we rent out out condos, of coz the a/c must be reliable as well. i think most a/c can last 5-10yrs without issue.
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If you just rent out, apa also can lah.

What I mean is the usage of power consumption. Breakdown and maintenance also need to consider.

You can't see such a saving later or pay high later if you don't have using experience for comparison. Specially new owner.

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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 21 2015, 10:03 AM)
There is some truth in what you say. But as far as aircond is concerned, I tend to believe usage is another BIG factor. If the place is a very dusty area, it tends to break down faster due to lack of scheduled cleaning and maintenance. And it happens that the breakdown is on a cheaper brand, people tend to think say "you see, it's cheap brand, so it breaks down!". Breakdown on the more expensive brand, people will say "yeah, I only got the breakdown now, if cheaper brand if would have breakdown earlier!"

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Breakdown is very much how you use it and takecare.

The others factor you cannot control is the electronic thing. And this of course depend you get the cheap or good aircon.

The main factor for aircon saving is the power consumption. Your house bill no.1 is the aircon consumption.
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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 21 2015, 10:03 AM)
There is some truth in what you say. But as far as aircond is concerned, I tend to believe usage is another BIG factor. If the place is a very dusty area, it tends to break down faster due to lack of scheduled cleaning and maintenance. And it happens that the breakdown is on a cheaper brand, people tend to think say "you see, it's cheap brand, so it breaks down!". Breakdown on the more expensive brand, people will say "yeah, I only got the breakdown now, if cheaper brand if would have breakdown earlier!"

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Like S'pore rental, from the owner have to pay for Aircon maintenace cost, unsure for M'sia markets.

If you need to pay for it, so better go for slighly higher budget biggrin.gif
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so far i havent encounter a/c faulty or maintainance issue, i think only the internal unit need more care than outdoor due to dust clogging. i seen a/c filter nvr wash for more than 1 yr. esp rent to girls. some of AC i have used and still in service till now and all these never service outdoor, only clean indoor units for rentals. So now days i just do visual checks on my units together with checking a/c every 3-6 month.

Panasonic with ion rm* 2006 4 units
sharp with plasmacluster rm900 @ 2008 2 units
fujiaire 1hp with ionizer rm600 @ 2012 4 units
sharp 1hp basic rm700 @ 2012/2013 4 units

QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 21 2015, 10:18 AM)
Like S'pore rental, from the owner have to pay for Aircon maintenace cost, unsure for M'sia markets.

If you need to pay for it, so better go for slighly higher budget biggrin.gif
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post Aug 21 2015, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 11:14 AM)
so far i havent encounter a/c faulty or maintainance issue, i think only the internal unit need more care than outdoor due to dust clogging. i seen a/c  filter nvr wash for more than 1 yr. esp rent to girls. some of AC i have used and still in service till now and all these never service outdoor, only clean indoor units for rentals. So now days i just do visual checks on my units together with checking a/c every 3-6 month.

Panasonic with ion rm* 2006 4 units
sharp with plasmacluster rm900 @ 2008 2 units
fujiaire 1hp with ionizer rm600 @ 2012 4 units
sharp 1hp basic rm700 @ 2012/2013 4 units
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Hmm seens like your is very common brand such made in M'sia

Midea, hisense, Gree & Haier all from China leh



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post Aug 21 2015, 11:29 AM

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usually i take common brand as they are cheap as well, i only have basic haier 1hp before, also i have used more than 5 yrs w/o issue. the rest of china brand never used before such as midea and hisense nvr used before and i think midea used to give 3 full yrs warranty.

QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 21 2015, 11:22 AM)
Hmm seens like your is very common brand such made in M'sia

Midea,  hisense, Gree & Haier all from China leh
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 11:29 AM)
usually i take common brand as they are cheap as well, i only have basic haier 1hp before, also i have used more than 5 yrs w/o issue. the rest of china brand never used before such as midea and hisense nvr used before and i think midea used to give 3 full yrs warranty.
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You are not wrong with that.

Basic model at least still from Japan design, just a fujiare from malacca.
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post Aug 21 2015, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 11:29 AM)
usually i take common brand as they are cheap as well, i only have basic haier 1hp before, also i have used more than 5 yrs w/o issue. the rest of china brand never used before such as midea and hisense nvr used before and i think midea used to give 3 full yrs warranty.
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Warranty will vary according to where you purchase things from.

I spoke to a shop keeper he said the Hisense and Midea have 2 year warranty for indoor unit and 5 years warranty for outdoor unit.

And online order, being cheaper, I think they just offer 1 year warranty, even for the common jap design brands.
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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 21 2015, 01:05 PM)
Warranty will vary according to where you purchase things from.

I spoke to a shop keeper he said the Hisense and Midea have 2 year warranty for indoor unit and 5 years warranty for outdoor unit.

And online order, being cheaper, I think they just offer 1 year warranty, even for the common jap design brands.
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Since you have decided hisense brand, then just consider for thier premium specs of inverter unit HAC-10TGI dunno how cool is it
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 21 2015, 01:59 PM)
Since you have decided hisense brand, then just consider for thier premium specs of inverter unit HAC-10TGI dunno how cool is it
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I think that model is not available online.

Midea: Midea 1.0HP Neola Inverter Air Conditioner With Ionizer MSN-09CRDN1. RM 999.00.
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post Aug 21 2015, 03:05 PM

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tmc, since you are renting out, get the basic model will do. if inverter board have problem that is going to hassle the tenant. since you are willing to up the cost, get those from york cooling king or daikin cooling king. i think it around 800+.

QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 21 2015, 02:18 PM)
I think that model is not available online.

Midea: Midea 1.0HP Neola Inverter Air Conditioner With Ionizer MSN-09CRDN1. RM 999.00.
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 03:05 PM)
tmc, since you are renting out, get the basic model will do. if inverter board have problem that is going to hassle the tenant. since you are willing to up the cost, get those from york cooling king or daikin cooling king. i think it around 800+.
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I think that way too. But since kimsim asked about inverter aircond, I just "entertain" him a bit. blush.gif

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