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post May 5 2017, 03:37 PM

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just make sure when you guys service your aircond , ask them to clean the drainage ... mine blocked till my newly bought aircond leak inside unit .. so managed to call a friend of mine , to clean those dirt that blocked the drainage
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post May 5 2017, 04:43 PM

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I am thinking to get CS-V9 RKH-1 for bedroom and CS-S13TKH for living room and both of them are Panasonic. What do you guys think about these models?
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post May 5 2017, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pillowwings @ May 5 2017, 10:59 AM)
one month just around RM200 only
what brand that you using?
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Sharp J-Tech inverter.. somehow beside that the aircord didnot safe $$ somehow i think this aircord is not cool enuff

QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 5 2017, 11:11 AM)
Signed on to a bunch of York air cons and a Panasonic mini cassette during the recent homedec for my ongoing reno. Any comment on this? For me York is like a old trusted brand but my contractor tells me the York nowadays are not good anymore. I have a choice to change them all to Panasonic (only paid a deposit) if I wish.

Wall-mounted units (York)
2HP
2.5HP
1HP
Units look like these with the blue strip: http://www.yorkmy.com/Residential_Wall-mounted_deluxe.html

Cassette (Panasonic)
2.5HP mini cassette
http://www.panasonic.com/id/consumer/home-...s-s24mb4pw.html
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If i am not wrong.. last time York got their aircord from Daikin factory... but now York no longer getting aircord from Daikin... they got from a China brand...




QUOTE(ChrisEvans @ May 5 2017, 04:43 PM)
I am thinking to get CS-V9 RKH-1 for bedroom and CS-S13TKH for living room and both of them are Panasonic. What do you guys think about these models?
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invertor?? I would say NO NO
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post May 5 2017, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Abam Boncit @ May 5 2017, 09:24 AM)
I nvr try aircond b4... but i would nvr recommend to use inverter aircond.
Sales man told me that inverter aircond will help me save $$, it will show in my electric billl....
i buta buta pay more to buy invertor aircond.. somehow nvr see any different with my electric bill at all..
somemore... invertor aircord is totally not cool at all
aiduh both are invertor aircond.. useless..
better use non invertor aircord la!!
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You need to keep the air-cond on for 6-8hours daily in order to see the result and recommend to keep the temperature above ^22. My house and office room both also on Daikin inverter and the electric bill is cheaper compared to non inverter. Inveter doesn't helps to save electric, if u set to lowest temperature with jz a few hours usage per day.
For those who turn on air-cond for long usage. It's good to pick inverter. Otherwise, just go for non-inverter. Cheaper price rclxms.gif


QUOTE(Abam Boncit @ May 5 2017, 10:12 AM)
sales man bull shit la!!!! i really dun believe in inverter anymore...
somemore parts is so freaking expensive
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Yeah, Inverter is not cheap in both air-cond and parts.
To me price is not an issue, as long as the spare part is easy to get.
My previous china brand air cond, always run out of stock. Now changed different brand, no more such issue.

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post May 6 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Abam Boncit @ May 5 2017, 10:12 AM)
sales man bull shit la!!!! i really dun believe in inverter anymore...
somemore parts is so freaking expensive
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I bought 2 (1.5 HP) inverter airconds last year. When I called Panasonic I was advised to set it at 27 degrees and eco and use for 6 or 8 hours to see the savings. I saw some savings for 2 months but everyone complained the aircond was not cold enough! After the complaints, it is set to 21 degrees and my bills was more or less the same like our old airconds without inverter.

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heyamazingpeople
post May 6 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(dude06 @ May 5 2017, 01:28 AM)
Pal..Any idea how does the R32 compare to the R410?
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I will say R32 will be more energy efficient. However i have not much idea on the pricing.
Would be great if someone can gather and tabulate the pricing for comparison.
In term of energy consumption, should be able to see from online catalogues.

QUOTE(Jeffrey_Yong @ May 6 2017, 02:48 PM)
I bought 2 (1.5 HP) inverter airconds last year. When I called Panasonic I was advised to set it at 27 degrees and eco and use for 6 or 8 hours to see the savings.  I saw some savings for 2 months but everyone complained the aircond was not cold enough! After the complaints, it is set to 21 degrees and my bills was more or less the same like our old airconds without inverter.
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U guys need to know how inverters work.
Inverter is only good for part load conditions as the technology is able to let the compressor to run at slower speed to save energy.
But how the compressor knows when to run at slower speed? It is based on ur thermostat setting.
If u set room temp at 25 deg C, while the room is 24 deg C, it will run at part load. Also means it will only run at part load when the room is cold enough.

Imagine another case, u have a big room /space with substantiate heat gain, but u provide an undersized aircon which is 1hp.. if u do an experiment by recording the kWh on ur elec meter every 30mins interval, day 1 u run the 1hp aircon with no inverter and day 2 u run the one with inverter.
If like i mention, the aircon is undersize, both should be running at full and thus energy consumption should be the same.. therefore u dont see the saving.



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post May 6 2017, 06:50 PM

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Just now searching for R32 and bump into the promo at the end of articles by Mitsubishi. Anyone have experience about this??

How much is the installation for R32 aircon and any diff compare to R410?


I might be wrong but I did not read anything about it being an Inverter but should be non inverter running on new R32 gas...

Thanks



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post May 7 2017, 05:26 PM

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is it advisable to set 16 , i found up that when i set to 20 , the airflow more colder , 16 after sometimes felt not that cold
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post May 7 2017, 07:20 PM

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Hi,

I need 2 basic non-inveter type 1.0HP aircond.

The main concern is the power usage, the lower the better, my electricity bill is kind expensive

Can any experts recommend a brand and model?

Thanks!
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post May 7 2017, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 4 2017, 11:59 AM)
based on personal needs, if u turn it on for long hours, inverter maybe the choice..
+ whether if u need ionizing or not.. and those extra features..

for me, i opt for basic unit.. less tech less trouble..
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Thanks! I decided to get Panasonic inverter and normal econavi for my house
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post May 8 2017, 01:42 PM

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Not sure what air cond option to choose, need some advise.

Living hall - 400sqft -> 2.5hp? initially planing to get mitsubishi ceiling cassette.
Dining hall - ~ 200 sqft -> 1.5HP, thinking of getting either gree/sharp both around 1k rm in lazada.
Master bedroom ~ 200 sqft -> 1.5HP, thinking of getting either gree/sharp both around 1k rm in lazada.
Bedroom 2 - 110 sqft -> 1 Hp, thinking of getting gree cause really cheap only 500+.

All of the above are R410a without inverter. Cause find not worth the extra bucks for inverter and also wanted it cheap for initial cost.

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QUOTE(clavenk @ May 8 2017, 01:42 PM)
Not sure what air cond option to choose, need some advise.

Living hall - 400sqft -> 2.5hp? initially planing to get mitsubishi ceiling cassette.
Dining hall - ~ 200 sqft -> 1.5HP, thinking of getting either gree/sharp both around 1k rm in lazada.
Master bedroom ~ 200 sqft -> 1.5HP, thinking of getting either gree/sharp both around 1k rm in lazada.
Bedroom 2 - 110 sqft -> 1 Hp, thinking of getting gree cause really cheap only 500+.

All of the above are R410a without inverter. Cause find not worth the extra bucks for inverter and also wanted it cheap for initial cost.
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Living hall - 2.0 is sufficient (unless u have more than 5 ppls most of time at living hall, and facing sunset during the late noon/evening)

Dining hall - this is separate room from living hall?

Bedroom - both 1.0hp is enough

brand to choose, pana/daikin/sharp/mitsubishi, but not gree.
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QUOTE(thunderbird @ May 7 2017, 07:20 PM)
Hi,

I need 2 basic non-inveter type 1.0HP aircond.

The main concern is the power usage, the lower the better, my electricity bill is kind expensive

Can any experts recommend a brand and model?

Thanks!
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how long u gonna turn on the ac?
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post May 8 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 8 2017, 01:53 PM)
Living hall - 2.0 is sufficient (unless u have more than 5 ppls most of time at living hall, and facing sunset during the late noon/evening)

Dining hall - this is separate room from living hall?

Bedroom - both 1.0hp is enough

brand to choose, pana/daikin/sharp/mitsubishi, but not gree.
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but my problem is my living and dining is like a L shape without wall / partition.
so 2hp seems not sufficient. so technicall i have a open area from living and dining + kitchen of about 600 sqft with 1.5 at dining and 2hp in living is sufficient?
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QUOTE(clavenk @ May 8 2017, 01:57 PM)
but my problem is my living and dining is like a L shape without wall / partition.
so 2hp seems not sufficient. so technicall i have a open area from living and dining + kitchen of about 600 sqft with 1.5 at dining and 2hp in living is sufficient?
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i see.. then 1.5 at dining, 2.0 at living.. should be good.
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post May 8 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ May 8 2017, 01:56 PM)
how long u gonna turn on the ac?
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It's for the bed room,

Weekday, should be 6 to 8 hours.

Weekend, should be 10 to 12 hours
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QUOTE(thunderbird @ May 8 2017, 10:39 PM)
It's for the bed room,

Weekday, should be 6 to 8 hours.

Weekend, should be 10 to 12 hours
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Then you need to invest into inverter AC boss
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post May 9 2017, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 5 2017, 11:11 AM)
Signed on to a bunch of York air cons and a Panasonic mini cassette during the recent homedec for my ongoing reno. Any comment on this? For me York is like a old trusted brand but my contractor tells me the York nowadays are not good anymore. I have a choice to change them all to Panasonic (only paid a deposit) if I wish.

Wall-mounted units (York)
2HP
2.5HP
1HP
Units look like these with the blue strip: http://www.yorkmy.com/Residential_Wall-mounted_deluxe.html

Cassette (Panasonic)
2.5HP mini cassette
http://www.panasonic.com/id/consumer/home-...s-s24mb4pw.html
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Dun believe what salesman said. They will only recon u to buy products that they can profit most.

It does not mean it is good.
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post May 9 2017, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(Jill8 @ May 5 2017, 05:34 PM)
You need to keep the air-cond on for 6-8hours daily in order to see the result and recommend to keep the temperature above ^22.  My house and office room both also on Daikin inverter and the electric bill is cheaper compared to non inverter. Inveter doesn't helps to save electric, if u set to lowest temperature with jz a few hours usage per day.
For those who turn on air-cond for long usage. It's good to pick inverter. Otherwise, just go for non-inverter. Cheaper price rclxms.gif
Yeah, Inverter is not cheap in both air-cond and parts.
To me price is not an issue, as long as the spare part is easy to get.
My previous china brand air cond, always run out of stock. Now changed different brand, no more such issue.
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In boleh land. It is almost impossible to reach 22 degree temperature unless it is during super late midnight time.

The good temperature to set is 25 or above. Because it is the temperature that typical Aircon can reach, but it is provided that ur Aircon power matches the room size.

If ir does not, no way the temperature set can be reached, then no way to save energy also.

For typical Aircon, if one needs to set temperature lower than 25 in order to feel the coldness, it should mean that the Aircon is under powered.
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QUOTE(Jeffrey_Yong @ May 6 2017, 02:48 PM)
I bought 2 (1.5 HP) inverter airconds last year. When I called Panasonic I was advised to set it at 27 degrees and eco and use for 6 or 8 hours to see the savings.  I saw some savings for 2 months but everyone complained the aircond was not cold enough! After the complaints, it is set to 21 degrees and my bills was more or less the same like our old airconds without inverter.
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1.5hp u put at living room or what? If yes, it is likely that ur Aircon is under powered according to ur room size.

this is the reason why u did not feel the coldness and need to set at such low temperature. Of course in this case, there is no way u can save ur bill becos ur Aircon is underpowered.

It is the same logic that u try to fit 5 oversized adult in a kancil and expect a good fuel consumption.

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