I have an Indian friend who's a christian. This guy works as a general worker, very simple guy.

You know what he told me?

He says that people who are leaders or well known in the Christian World gifted with the Holy Spirit don't need all that sort of tertiary qualification.

If anyone has ailment, these type of people just touch you and you will be healed. They are the ones who don't mind to get dirty cleaning up after old folks who can't take care of themselves.
He says he has more respect for these than those who has all kind of theology qualifications and preach very well.

I know where he's coming from and I agree.

So don't worry about them. After all Jesus says you'll know a tree by the fruits.

And yet there are Christians who looked down upon such Christians because they don't have status, higher education, etc....

I really don't understand such behaviour.

Sure no Christians is perfect, I get that.

Paul addressed the same issue all the way back since the church's foundation. He taruk them kau kau with his words

You can see some of the action happening in 1 Chorinthians book.

May all of us experience a new beginning with Christ! (John 1:1)

Correct correct.

I still don't really know who are the guys who got rejected though? I feel like I'm missing context.
Like, how many 'spiritual experts' collect every 'god' out there as an arsenal to do their job.

Or these people are from cults. They have power but come from the Devil?

?????

Tolong clarify.
Paul addressed the same issue all the way back since the church's foundation. He taruk them kau kau with his words

You can see some of the action happening in 1 Chorinthians book.

Well my BM isn't the best so here goes.

taruk = put (object) location

kau kau = referring to a person



I have no idea what that BM phrases mean. 

So I read this Bible summary about Corinthians.

The spirit of independent thinking emphasized so strongly by the Greeks evidently was influencing the Corinthian Christians. Paul's manner of dealing with the problem is noteworthy. He does not insist that all members of the community should think alike on every subject, nor does he advocate that someone with authority should tell others what to believe. What he does insist on is a unity of spirit and purpose that will allow each group to learn from the others.

Paul's account of the resurrection enables us to see how his view differed from those of the ancient Greeks and also from the view found in certain portions of the Old Testament. The Greeks believed in the doctrine of the soul's immortality. According to this doctrine, souls do not have a beginning or an end. They are eternal realities capable of existing apart from the bodies in which they were incarnated. This view was contrary to the Hebrew conception, which viewed man as a single unit including body, soul, and spirit; the soul was not something that existed apart from the body. After death, all went down to Sheol, a cavern below the earth, but no memory or consciousness of any kind attended this state of existence.

In contrast to these views, Paul believed in a genuine resurrection from physical death in which a person's individuality and moral worth would be preserved. But this preservation was not to be a reanimation of the corpse and a continuation of life as it had been before. Flesh and blood, Paul tells us, will not inherit God's kingdom. The body that is raised will not be the natural body but rather a spiritual body. Paul does not tell us what this spiritual body will be like, but he is sure that it will be a body of some kind, for the personality includes body, soul, and spirit, and salvation is not achieved until all three have been transformed together. The Gnostics of Paul's day, who believed that only spirit is good and that all matter is evil, taught that Jesus did not possess a physical body but only appeared to do so. For Paul, this position was untenable: Unless Jesus possessed a body in common with other human beings, his triumph over evil would have no significance for humans. Jesus' resurrection means a triumph of the entire personality over the forces of evil; what it means for Jesus it also means for all those who put their trust in him.

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/n/ne...d-2-corinthians

I think technically, Salvation of the Body is yet to be achieved but the Salvation of the Spirit has been given by God through his Son Jesus Christ.

Amen Bro.

2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!
I really don't know Sophiera, the Christian World is very big. There are countless ministers, preachers out there, known and unknown.

You can't count, it's just too many, world wide.

What's important is that Christ must be preached, what He (Christ) has done, not what we have done. That is preaching the New Covenant.

Problem is, most of the time, preaching everywhere is what we must still do about Salvation when it's suppose to be "already done", nothing more to complete what Christ has finished. The problem with the body of Christ today is that many preachers still preaches uncertainty in the sense that you'll never know if you make it to heaven. That I can assure is not from God but understanding born out of the fears of Man. God never instituted this sort of fear.

Well I"m here and (hopefully, Pehkay too) to encourage everyone that our God is a God of certainty in assuring us Salvation.

And its given free to us.

Because God gave us victory through Jesus Christ.

Such a wonderful blessing from God yet so many failed to see it.

In my understanding from going to various churches in Malaysia, some preachers preached "fear / false" doctrines.

The same goes in overseas churches too. Some even allowed copulation and cohabitation before marriage. sheesh..

And yet at the time we need to extend grace and be patience and not allow emotion to get the better of us towards people in leadership, in the pulpit, etc.
Doesn't matter what we feel is right, still need to respect them.

Hard to live this life Christ has called us to. To be at peace with everyone and to love our enemies...phew.

This only tells me one thing. Only God alone is the rightful judge and executor. We cannot take that role.

Our Role is to pray and exhibit Christ.

Mighty no.9....

I prefer this dude.

Yeah sad part of reality. I know one rich guy from a cheras church...he own a car spare part biz dam rich. His house is bigger than the church..he lives near publika. His house got an elevator..i once confronted him why the one cg so political..he told me off its not a social club..well then why call each other bro or sis? I feel like working in an office not going to church. Why cant we hv joy n fellowship? He even preach againsy being rich while his house so big. Typical asian attitude la..the youths all listen to him cause he has money n power. There was once i was accused by the pastor there that i am an outsider...i ask him for advice..he just say i am imaginating.

I got another problem.. most of the guys at church r territorial. When they see me..they refuse to share their ministries or befriend me bcause they view me as a threat to the supply of their potential ladies for marriage even though i am already attached. Once in awhile i bring her to my church but church so big they dun see me with her so they still thk i am single.

Bcause they r so selfish in not sharing n asking me to join their minustries i purposely dun want to introduce potential christian partners to these selfish guys.

You sir got good taste!!! RATCHET AND CLANK!!!!!     

Girls always know best games to play.

#Fallout 4
#GTA 5
#MGS V
#The Witcher
#Lego Dimensions

Deadlocks taste.. 

and a movie about them is coming out too!!!!!       

Movies?

I only know about Assassin Creed movie.

The reason they reboot ratchet and clank is because of the movie    . There is trailer in youtube look it up   

Oh..I just played the game because my nieces and nephews were playing it during Xmas. hehe...

Nice game.

didn't know about the movie.   

 

There is this church call Charrriiiis...worse than my church. The pastor there lan see one. I just visitor there i kena treated like crap..all the youths there were born to the parents who were original members...so they behave like bumi at the church. Some they dam rich..they all live in big houses in cheras. Some even move to hartamas or old klang. So much unkindness...

I was there as a yourh for 3 yrs..finally cannot tahan their politics...their youth got a master race mentality...i didnt even made a single fren there. And they really work u up till death in the ministry...they dun encourage fellowship n frenship in the youth ministry. I feel like i kena boikot there for years. Try to be nice n strike conversation but most of them stick to cliche build up by their leaders. They say nasty things at me like i am outsider.

Some of their youth there dam dumb one..dun even know why they go to church for....basic john 3:16 also dunno. The youth leaders try to bring their inner circle to big bungalow houses to impress them n make them go through some christian lesson through some books..these jokers also hv trouble to understand. After meeting..dun even hv prayer for each other. The joker leader only pray 5 second...apa ini? How to build up self n uphold one another?

I finally gave up n went to another church. I hv problems with my current but reason why i stay is bcause this cheras church is the worst i ever experienced. Literally if they had guns would turn the place into jonestown !