so, actually u r bitter over wat eh?

tat God isn't turning out to b ur genie in a bottle?

No offence, but I feel like you're pushing your agenda behind the guise of an 'intellectual discussion'.

Bro, I realize that as time goes by, when I understood more of Christianity actually God did leave a lot of evidence.

The Apostles were real people, Jesus is really a real living person, recorded by historian of his time.

This is not some fiction man.

There is a think called spiritual intelligence.

As you are talking about intelligence and faith, the spiritual intelligence will able to disect:
1. which intelligence to keep.
2. which intelligence to discard.
3. which faith to keep.
4. which faith to discard.

Not all that we think intelligence JESUS wants to keep them.
Not all that we think as faith JESUS wants to keep them.

Sometimes proud defined as we think too much instead of asking GOD too much.

i am quite sure you are not pentecostal at all... am i correct ?

Science and reason is not the opposite of faith either. That's where many get wrong.

u reply too fast

anyway, try to see response to this youtube and let me know... i am here to help and to build, not to condemn

i give you the hard and adult food lahh... goto city harvest. i don't think you will enjoy, but imo that's the best for somebody with mature understanding like you.

Bro I appreciated the discovery of Science all the while and I see it as something enabled by God for Man to discover things.

I don't get it what makes you think it is to be avoided.

it's obvious that your "leader" is your "reasoning power"... and you try to mitigate your guilt with faith in CHRIST. I have post loaded youtube in my thread WWJD.

at that thread, you need to dethrone your "reasoning power" and just swallow the youtube. anything you don't understand you can ask.

It is okay to have reasoning power... but who is the leader ? reasoning power ? or faith ?

my job is not to convince you. Holy Spirit will convince you. I just show the venue.

The ability to reason to mitigate or reject faith IS EVIL or shall i say originating from devil
The ability to reason to build faith better than yesterday is from JESUS.

I anchored on JESUS name, to resolve and help people.
You are on your "ability to reason"... to resolve and help people.

for me, when reason try to dethrone faith, i tell reason to shut up and just obey Holy Spirit.
for you, when reason try to dethrone faith, you try to harmonize reason and faith in the name of humanity.

this is a very thin difference yet crucial.

Have you asked Holy Spirit whether you are authorized to collaborate faith and reason ? i am afraid your faith is very little bro

are you sure ? have you read the second line from my own posting ? i think, devil is trying to blind you. Don't you realize ?
The ability to reason is neutral... you just need to put under faith... not equal to faith

And you think God wants man to be stupid and ignorant?

How else do you think Man has advance so much in Scientific discovery?

You really think Evolution is the sole cause?

ha, very mistaken my friend.

ability to reason will say don't walk on water, cuz you will drown.

When JESUS say you walk on water, it's faith.

When JESUS say you walk on water, then you replying by "ability-to-reason" with JESUS saying according to gravity human mass is bigger than water mass so human will drown. Now tell me... evil or not evil ?

If you afraid, then ask forgiveness by praying: Sorry JESUS, my ability-to-reason is bigger then my faith.  Help me have bigger faith.

That's the real ability-to-reason.

You can win this conversation is fine. I am here to help and build people. People know i am success, prosperous and blessed.

In case your ability-to-reason fails you, which i know it will fail you, look at increasing cost of living, GST, disappointment in live, not exceeding expectation, and all the shortages you have... remember our conversation
again, second time i do this: have you read the second line from my own posting[/b] ? i think, devil is trying to blind you. Don't you realize ?

Things pertaining to God's Kingdom, got to be God's way.

Things here on Earth with regards to Man, Natural Law takes precedent.

God designed it that way.
You just have to know which is which.

John 8:23 (NIV) - But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
This verse Helps us to understand, there is a distinction. This is not an arrogance but just plain Fact that God's operation is different.

John 3:31 (NIV) - The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.
This verse Helps us to understand, the Natural World just cannot supersede God's Kingdom. It cannot touch God in anyway.

1 John 4:5 (NIV) - They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
All those videos that you posted conform to this truth.
Now do you understand why I said;