That because your side is not reporting it.. wont want another embargo happening 

Yes...past intrusions in South are always reported...One of their captains are sacked and it is an embarassment for Australia. Things do get quieter in South...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-a...o-1226888034356

seems like indon administration is getting worse under jokowi...

because malaysia navy is busy in the south china sea.. i doubtful it our corvettes.. Most likely just those small patrol boats. If so, it rather a big overreaction by indonesia side

I am sure if you ask LTZ, he will say there a few time indonesia vessel also stray into our waters. Only that we dont make noise. But in indonesia, it always an sensational news if involved malaysia

Already sent......but there's nothing wrong with starting an operation in Indonesia's own territory. Indonesia has no intention to intrude Malaysia territory like what Malaysia is doing, so why so concerned?

http://www.cnnindonesia.com/internasional/...es-ke-malaysia/

Since China hardly Kacau them inregards to SCS,

So they decided to buat bodo and bising with us?

Since China hardly Kacau them inregards to SCS,

So they decided to buat bodo and bising with us?

the problem is the indons think it is an intrusion while others dispute it, the inefficiency of indon gov is horrible, the military dont coordinate well with its civil authority whether is it aviation or maritime... if you think msian military/civil dept are tidor, wait till you meet indon officials... they go all out to create trouble so they can get paid (via fine or angpow)

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore...re-plane-201410
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-28...plane-land.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/indo...-kupang/5864212
http://www.globalindonesianvoices.com/1719...-for-australia/

look at the cases above...

no with us only... with many other parties that are not hostile to them... and many are within asean... there's no need for such unnecessary actions but yet the ppl within jokowi's administration are causing so much trouble for others...

i initially thought sby would be the one causing ruckus since he was a former indon general with links to the 1998 riot and human rights violation at east timor but he did a good job managing indon i would say yet this new guy which so many ppl have high hopes on is gong down south

Don't mind if Malaysia makes noise if Indonesian ships do stray into your water.....Actually, it is not naval intrusions...but air intrusions

Yeah....we'll see who's right

But, I tell you one thing....Jokowi is better than Prabowo. With Prabowo, things will be much more "lively".....

I agree that there shouldn't be any kind of conflict.....negotiation is still priority....don't worry.

yeah.....I prefer SBY too.....don't really support both Jokowi and Prabowo....both are less refined than SBY. Can't run for 3rd term according to law

Thailand to Upgrade Fleet, Chooses Chinese to Provide Three Submarines



Three Chinese-made submarines worth 355 million dollars each may be purchased by Thailand for its Royal Navy, the newspaper Bangkok Post reported on Friday, citing a source in the country's procurement committee.

The decision was made on Thursday, when the majority of the 17-strong committee said "yes" to the Chinese submarines, saying that it was the "best value for money". Other committee members remained split between offers from South Korea and Germany.

According to the source, the committee voted to buy the Chinese submarines because they are "equipped with superior weaponry and technology and are also able to stay underwater longer."

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150626/1023868397.html

Navy Sources State That Buying Chinese Submarines is a Bad Idea 

BY EDITOR ON 2015-04-10 THAIVISA NEWS

Members within Thailand’s Navy have strong doubts about the country buying submarines from China. News broke earlier in the week that Prawit Wongsuwon, the Defense Minister, would be in China on a three-day trip and would be discussing a possible deal to buy two Chinese submarines.

The deal would be valued at 36 billion baht for both submarines.

Navy sources state that there is a major internal concern within the navy that the submarines may not be reliable. The sources state that China does not have the experience needed for truly reliable submarines.

Spending 36 billion baht on unreliable submarines is not a wise choice, states sources. There is also a major concern that due to a lack of quality, long-term maintenance may be more costly.

European vessels are comparable in price and have a proven track record in terms of reliability. Navy sources fear that the Chinese submarines may be able to go under water for the first 4 or 5 years before design flaws cause them to be rendered useless.

Currently, no final deal has been made on where the country will buy submarines. General Prawit states that he has agreed in principle to the purchase and that he also plans to have joint training with China’s military.

So what to do? Stay silent despite of the intrusion? This operation is performed inside Indonesian territory, not Malaysian...what's wrong with that?

China Builds Top Secret Midget Submarine



The space snapshots captured by DigitalGlobe show the vessel berthed at the shipyard pier used for fitting out submarines. The midget submarine had left the pontoon by late November and by mid-January 2015, another submarine, probably a Type 041 Yuan-class boat, occupied the pier.

According to imagery measurements, the midget submarine has an approximate length of 35 meters and beam of 4 meters, which suggests a surface displacement around 400-500 tons.

The 127th Ordinance Institute, of the Central Northern University, China, handed over a new 125mm cannon to People's Liberation Army officers at a June 10, 2015 ceremony.

Midget submarines – sometimes called mini or coastal subs – typically weigh below 150 tons and are operated by small teams. Their small size limits their endurance, often forcing them to operate alongside a mother ship.

In the past, the vessels been used for harbour penetration, concealed attacks on individual ships, or for reconnaissance purposes. Most of today's midget subs – from North Korea and Iran – are regularly armed with torpedoes and mines.

As Chris Biggers points out at open-source intelligence website Bellingcat, media outlets have reported on China fielding midget submarines, but no reports exist suggesting China is currently building such a vessel. The boat could be for a foreign customer, Biggers notes.

The Wuchang shipyard is at the forefront of conventional submarine production in China. It is best known for building China's novel Type 032 Qing class vessels, which is the world's largest conventional submarine.

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150627/1023908612.html

Last week, a report emerged that seemed to point to growing friction between Russia and China in Central Asia. According to WantChinaTimes, Russia’s recent deployment of drone technology in Central Asia was not due to Islamist threats in northern Afghanistan. Rather, according to the paper, Moscow opted to test its drones “to confront Chinese influence in the region.” As WantChinaTimes continued, “Since Russia itself relies heavily on economic exchanges with China, military deterrence is now the only way Putin can confront Chinese influence in the region.”

On its face, the report jibes with recent trends and expectations in the region. It’s no secret Moscow has opted to play up threats of ISIS in the region – with Central Asian presidents more than willing to fan the fears, if only to obtain Western military largesse. Terrorist organizations, per WantChinaTimes, offer “Russia a perfect excuse to strengthen its military influence in Central Asia.” Moreover, China has sailed to economic dominance in the region, towering in both trade relations and infrastructural investments. While Russia’s Eurasian Economic Union continues to stumble, China’s Silk Road Economic Belt is surging ahead, offering Central Asian governments an out as remittances continue collapsing.

But digging a bit beyond the prima facie claims, the report presents some stark question. First, WantChinaTimes cites its source as a report from China’s Global Times. However, no recent report appears on China’s Global Times website. (A request for clarification sent to WantChinaTimes went unanswered.) Likewise, a few months ago, WantChinaTimes reported that China would be delivering surface-to-air missile components to Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, Beijing’s largest military allocation in Central Asia to date. But nothing has been heard of the delivery in the four months since.

To be sure, Russia’s recent drone deployment may well serve as something of a subtle deterrent to encroaching Chinese influence in the region. Russia’s security card remains its strongest – or perhaps only – play in the region, and the recent uptick in military presence in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan hasn’t gone unnoticed in Beijing. Likewise, Chinese-Russian relations in the region have proven questionable, with the largest issue remaining Russia’s reticence to see its dominion ceded to Beijing.

However, without any further evidence at this point, it’s best to pause the notion that Russia’s flying drones as a deterrent to China. That may be the motive, and it may jibe with certain trends, but we’d need something more than a one-off rumor to say for certain.