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waja2000
post May 27 2015, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 27 2015, 02:09 PM)
Rmk11 will see quite few project for maf.
but dun expect a big project like the av8 or sgpv.
sad but I can't get any news regarding mmrca though saab guys were seem optimistic on its. hmm.gif
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only can see fund at sept from next year budget. nod.gif
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post May 27 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ May 27 2015, 03:28 PM)
Finally someone brought up mrca issue in parliment, my man here from MP Limbang

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than got answer?
maybe he or deputy replay “we current focus current treat,no need high tech weapon like bought by other asean country...” biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2015, 03:53 PM

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post May 28 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 12:59 AM)
No big ticket buys doesn't mean no buys at all. Not as if suddenly Malaysia declare 0% military budget for the next 5 years.

Also no offense, but I seriously think if PRC is serious in taking the SCS by force and US by some reason decides not to intervene, i 'd say the whole of ASEAN can't do jack to repel them.
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well MAF still have the operation budget. just development (procurement) budget is low. yearly average about usd 800 million (RM2.5b old $ exchange), nothink much to expect buy alot new high level asset like aircraft/helis/MBT/SPH/Ship/SAM. hence it still can get 1-2 procurement just pay long term (few year) so divide payment load. ideally development budget should increase to year usd 1.5billion or RM 5 billion, so we can buy few procurement at same time.

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post May 28 2015, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 12:10 PM)
I'm wondering what exactly is the allocation is for the military in RMK-11? People here are acting as if the government has suddenly abolished the Malaysian armed forces.
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well if follow pass year trend, it about RM 15 billion (development budget) .... and than few of them go to pay Gowind ship/Av8, if RMAF got Mig29 replacement about RM 9 billion, not much left,

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post May 28 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 01:04 PM)
I'm also curious about RMK-10, namely what its budget was & what plans were for the MAF and how much did it actually achieve for the military in 2010-2015?

Also, how much does it stack against RMK-11?
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i estimated MAF development budget not more than RM 18 billion in RMK-11.
personally i think ideally need around RM 30 billion (8b usd)

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post May 28 2015, 03:06 PM

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KEBAKARAN HELIKOPTER DI SABAH 11.57 pg td. 1W cedera ringan #BOMBA

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post May 28 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ May 28 2015, 08:35 PM)
so the airport fire rescue and bomba is under different management,  hmm.gif
this can understand due to airport fire engine are design to minimize the possibility ignite the flammable fume while normal bomba fire engine without this feature
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yes, Airport Bomba under Airport management direct manage (MAB), well out side airport is under Jabatan Bomba dan Penyelamat (JBPM).
For fire engine is No and Yes,
well The Fire engine in picture is Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 is come with 12,000 Liter water and 1500L foam, water pump is 7000L/minutes and fireman train specialist for aircraft/helis fire.
For JBPM fire engine main issue is the fire trunk lack of monitors (boom), can't put aircraft fire at 30-60 meter distance, so it have to use fire nozzles and very close to aircraft/helis, this is very danger. other than JBMP newer Benz and Scania fire truck already come with foam and high-Low water pump, too, but just carry about 150 Liter foam and 3600 Liter water at Scania fire truck, 2000 Liter water at Benz fire truck, both water pump just about 2000L/minutes. all water can use up in 10-15 minitus, so not 100% efficient for aircraft fire. just suitable for car/lorry/bus kind of fire, also there fireman i can said they can put down aircraft fire but than no specialist training in aircraft fire, , means issue JBPM facing now is they no enough budget to buy more class A foam. so u can see they JBPM Bomba sell-them use foam at fire unless very critical situation.
150L Class A foam cost about about RM2000. Can be proportioned from 0.1% to 1.0% (means 0.1L to 1Liter/100 Liter water) usually proportioned at 0.6%.
I see Airport Bomba should also managed by JBPM (maybe under airport fire section), than the fireman can explore more different job, it can rotate by other fireman to gain more experience.

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post May 28 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 09:20 PM)
Wah so thorough, and here I thought they only hired someone to spray water if there's a fire. laugh.gif
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For fire foam already have 7-8 type of foam and powder to use different kind of fire.
Fireman just like maf, they need to know all kind of rescue and fire.
handle the firetruck water pump, aerial fire truck .... analyst fire type, strategic to put down fire.
just same like MAF,JBPM also lack of budget, to setup more fire house and crew, about 26000 people at JBPM now. ideally JBPM need 40K crew member
our Fire/rescue level only at middle level, lack of high tech powerful big fire truck and super high aerial fire truck to put down "big" fire like Chemical Industry, oil industry,big building fire。
also not enough fire rule at high raise building design, out date fire hydrant standard and always facing low water supply pressure from local gov.

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post May 29 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ May 29 2015, 03:55 PM)
LTZ show your pic with famas.  brows.gif
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this rifle better than HK or M4 colt? hmm.gif
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post May 29 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 29 2015, 04:15 PM)
HK & M4 better....but rifle ni boleh tukar position whether left or right handed. Just change side of the mechanism inside.
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i see, can use after pass sea water ? (i means kena air)

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post May 31 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ May 31 2015, 01:59 AM)

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macam very low firepower only...
we need more powerfull and hightech gun, and SPH, MRL ....
155mm look too old.。。。
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post Jun 1 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 1 2015, 10:35 PM)
Make up what numbers?

We only have like 12, it's barely enough to do anything, now factoring the age lagi....

Mana MRCA nih?
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basically now not the right time to purchase

- High USD rate, 15% higher, hopefully next year at RM3.30 to usd
- purchase weapon = wasted rakyat money, will get heavy critics from politic party. specially with GST, debts and IMBD now.
- no solved crime issue.

only next year is last year can make weapon/asset procurement, 2017/2018 is close to next General Election, is risk to make procurement.

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post Jun 2 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Jun 2 2015, 01:26 PM)
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So confirm upgrade?
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every one here no mood working already after this news 。。。
。。 Heartbreak 。。。。same to RMAF pilot
back to enjoy , forgot military malaysia....
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post Jun 3 2015, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 2 2015, 10:16 PM)
wonder what the heck happen to najib...when he's the defence minister, everything looks so well for the armed forces..getting upgrades and new toys..

when he's become PM, i thought our military will gain more benefit..how wrong i was.. sad.gif
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time is different, 2003+ that time no big project in Malaysia, gov have money to bought military asset, and sosial media and news website no yet become trend. only politician make noise 1-2 day in newspaper than gone.
after 2008++ social media and internet news website become trend and grow fast with FB,Twitter, politician and people free to complaint and write story at there, with in 1 sec click, every one know。 biggrin.gif
other than that, price now new military price is increase huge compare to 2000an specially after 2010+, more system/electronic/complex.

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post Jun 3 2015, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 3 2015, 01:11 AM)
right if tudm opt to upgrade now then we already going to have a loop hole in the interceptor role

so I dont think that the upgrade will be happened unless a replacement or interim is known in this short time
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all is money issue。。。。 laugh.gif wait next year see, maybe some small purchase hardware at end this year。
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post Jun 3 2015, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 2 2015, 10:42 PM)
sad to say but i have to disagree

those mega project is to stimulate our worsening economy in particular the construction

It keeping contractors, consultant and suppliers up and running. If no such mega projects, we would be in a worse economic slumps with rising unemployment. That time our armed forces will be worse off with no budget.

the only thing i would say our PM did was launching those transportation projects. It helps the city center transport and still keeping the economy running until for the next 10 years or so i would say.
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agree,
construction industry in Malaysia always is momentum for GDP grow, with every year with double digit grow.
went our GDP archive higher than allocation for defense will be increase.

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post Jun 3 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 3 2015, 02:53 PM)
Yup...all the time at least 2 prc coast guard ships are there....
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this is most south the 9 line claim by china.
they want to do outpost there。
if malaysia not do reclamation land nearby Sarawak reef asap,
no surprise we will lost it.
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 3 2015, 05:32 PM)
What do you guys think about this? Will it be effective? Does the government really got the heart to do it?
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technically role of Amy/Navy/Airforce is protect and control borders.
and MMEA is with in borders, is 2nd level low enforcement after from Navy。
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 3 2015, 05:41 PM)
Then how come before this, only MMEA securing the border. hmm
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some news reported mmea complaint only allow patrol with in 50km, than like melaka street and sabah area distance to border is less than 50km,
other issue is limited and old patrol boat own by RMN hard to protect entire borders, some place have to mix RMN and MMEA. so can wider coverage。
as issue before, RMN need alot new 300 and 500-600 tons patrol boat。 current 230-280 tons RMN patrol boat already 40+ year using, is very old and serviceability already not meet current security requirement.

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