QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ May 26 2015, 07:37 AM)
Based on VAB....can only withstand 7.62mm
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May 26 2015, 07:43 AM
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May 27 2015, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ May 26 2015, 08:45 AM) Engines separated with one another and don't integrate with fuselage. If one is hit by MANPADS, A-10 can still fly with one engine. Wheels slightly protrude when they are up, so after all hardpoints are jettisoned, A-10 can still land with all gears up. The 30mm Avenger gatling gun is good enough to penetrate rear and top turret armor of any tank.Can't be replaced with F-35, A-10 is unique and irreplaceable, although they need to be retired soon. It's better for US to build entirely new A-10 based the old design, but with much improved avionics and engines. Unfortunately Fairchild has been acquired and now Elbit has all the ownership of the A-10 design. This post has been edited by Frozen_Sun: May 27 2015, 01:09 AM |
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May 27 2015, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 27 2015, 07:40 AM) I can't stress this pet peeve I have with people who still believe in this. I'm well aware of IR missiles with all-aspect capability as well as the use of proximity fuse, which can hit the nose of the aircraft head-on although the engine is fully obscured by the fuselage.Modern heat-seeking missiles, MANPADS included, do not directly attack a jet engine. Modern IR sensors home in on the overall IR heat signature of an aircraft rather than the engines themselves. Sure, the exhaust plume is potentially the largest IR signature an aircraft has, but modern seekers are smart and sensitive enough to look for other IR signatures that tell it if the target is actually an aircraft, such as the heat radiating from an aircraft's leading edge and compression fan rather than blindly following a large IR signature that could possibly be a flare. The 'home on jet engine exhaust' homing technique only works on earlier generations of heat-seeking missiles. Nowadays a heat-seeking missile can home in on its target from almost any angle. Also, an anti-aircraft missile don't 'hit' an aircraft per se, shrapnel from it does. The warhead of an anti-aircraft missile doesn't actually do the killing, its function is only to propel the shrapnel towards its target. A pre-fragmented warhead casing ensures the shrapnel is directed in a controlled cone, much like a shotgun blast. ![]() But it is still more likely for MANPADS to target the engine, instead of the nose ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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May 29 2015, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 10:21 PM) Looks fragile as hell. A good shot amidships with any kind of heavy weapon would snap the hull like a piece of plywood. It uses reinforced fiberglass hull......designed to be light, not for strength. Don't have to bother add any kind of armor on missile boat.....Even a guided cruiser can't withstand a collision with UAV ![]() |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 4 2015, 08:34 AM) Don't think that would be such a good idea. These things can potentially swallow a lot of money now and in the future from the maintenance & operating costs. Finally, in the end become white elephant like Thai Aircraft Carrier. Just typical LPD is enough, can even be used to rescue pirated ships in AfricaI don't think Malaysian Navy right now can afford to deploy warships larger than Frigates-sized ships. |
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Jun 20 2015, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 19 2015, 10:36 PM) These helicopters were purchased under SBY administration.....The TNI modernization plan spans from 2009 to 2024, so whoever the president is, the plan is always implemented. In fact, Jokowi is criticized by some of making no real effort to follow the plan....still no armaments purchased under his administration after 9 months |
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Jun 20 2015, 08:42 AM) Lol I really doubt Indonesia capable to maintain their fleet ? That's when Indonesia was hit severely by economic crisis....the defense budget increase significantly as economy also increase. Things have changed.Kind of worry will end up like their old jet fighter that grounded w/o spare parts or ammunition. Keep in mind that Indonesia's defense budget is still traditionally under 1 percent GDP......contrary to popular beliefs....military armaments are always low priority for Indonesia, the biggest spending is education, 40 percent of state budget ![]() |
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 20 2015, 11:03 AM) Unfortunately, that won't happen....All projections similarly indicate that Indonesia will end up being the 3rd strongest country in Asia after China and India.....even stronger economically than Mother Russia. Indonesia actually doesn't actively seek to re-arm itself. The defense budget is always kept at under 1 percent GDP, but with the rising economy, even at such a low ratio...the defense budget is also increasing rapidly.... With the extra money, why not start a MEF program?? ![]() |
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 26 2015, 02:14 PM) QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Jun 26 2015, 03:13 PM) So what to do? Stay silent despite of the intrusion? This operation is performed inside Indonesian territory, not Malaysian...what's wrong with that? |
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Jun 27 2015, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 27 2015, 01:47 AM) Malaysia and Indon wayang kulit only No, Australia has stopped for now....Now, Malaysia does it more ofteneverytime, indonesia election period "Gayang Malaysia etc etc" Same as always over reaction by indonesia which is rather funny given that they are being intruded more often by Australia in their souther territory QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 27 2015, 01:55 AM) intrusion or not is debatable.. but the reaction towards these incidents is bad for diplomacy... for instance the sinking of fishing boats of neighboring countries, the force landing of singkie commercial chartered planes, the execution of foreign citizens on death rows, nationalization of foreign investment.... and all are towards non hostile countries... they should in the spirit of asean lodge a protest or give warning first... Already sent......but there's nothing wrong with starting an operation in Indonesia's own territory. Indonesia has no intention to intrude Malaysia territory like what Malaysia is doing, so why so concerned?http://www.cnnindonesia.com/internasional/...es-ke-malaysia/ |
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 27 2015, 02:11 AM) Yes...past intrusions in South are always reported...One of their captains are sacked and it is an embarassment for Australia. Things do get quieter in South...http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-a...o-1226888034356 |
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Commander-in-Chief already said that lodging protest is "enough".
"Nanti saya bisa bicara lagi dengan Panglima Diraja Malaysia untuk bisa saling memahami posisi masing-masing," tegas dia. Moeldoko kembali menegaskan bahwa sikap Indonesia yang telah menyampaikan nota protes terhadap Malaysia saat ini dirasa sudah cukup. "Nota protes dari Menlu cukup," tegas dia. Sebelumnya, banyak pesawat asing yang melanggar wilayah Indonesia. Hal ini dapat diketahui dengan radar milik TNI AU di perbatasan Malaysia dan Indonesia itu. Kebanyakan pesawat yang masuk itu milik Malaysia. http://nasional.news.viva.co.id/news/read/...sia-sudah-cukup http://nasional.news.viva.co.id/news/read/...sia-sudah-cukup -------------------- The whole thing will end, if the intrusions end.... |
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 27 2015, 02:23 AM) because malaysia navy is busy in the south china sea.. i doubtful it our corvettes.. Most likely just those small patrol boats. If so, it rather a big overreaction by indonesia side Don't mind if Malaysia makes noise if Indonesian ships do stray into your water.....Actually, it is not naval intrusions...but air intrusionsI am sure if you ask LTZ, he will say there a few time indonesia vessel also stray into our waters. Only that we dont make noise. But in indonesia, it always an sensational news if involved malaysia |
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Jun 27 2015, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 27 2015, 02:28 AM) the problem is the indons think it is an intrusion while others dispute it, the inefficiency of indon gov is horrible, the military dont coordinate well with its civil authority whether is it aviation or maritime... if you think msian military/civil dept are tidor, wait till you meet indon officials... they go all out to create trouble so they can get paid (via fine or angpow) Yeah....we'll see who's righthttp://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore...re-plane-201410 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-28...plane-land.html http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/indo...-kupang/5864212 http://www.globalindonesianvoices.com/1719...-for-australia/ look at the cases above... But, I tell you one thing....Jokowi is better than Prabowo. With Prabowo, things will be much more "lively"..... I agree that there shouldn't be any kind of conflict.....negotiation is still priority....don't worry. |
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 27 2015, 02:32 AM) no with us only... with many other parties that are not hostile to them... and many are within asean... there's no need for such unnecessary actions but yet the ppl within jokowi's administration are causing so much trouble for others... yeah.....I prefer SBY too.....don't really support both Jokowi and Prabowo....both are less refined than SBY. Can't run for 3rd term according to lawi initially thought sby would be the one causing ruckus since he was a former indon general with links to the 1998 riot and human rights violation at east timor but he did a good job managing indon i would say yet this new guy which so many ppl have high hopes on is gong down south |
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Jun 30 2015, 07:06 PM) All 113 People Aboard Crashed Indonesian Plane Dead - Air Force Commander © REUTERS/ Roni Bintang KC-130B....bought in 1964![]() An Indonsian Air Force Hercules C-130 plane crashed into a residential area in the town of Medan on Sumatra Island, killing all people on board. MOSCOW (Sputnik) – All 113 people aboard the Indonesian Hercules C-130 military transport airplane that crashed into a hotel and residential area earlier on Tuesday are dead, France Presse reported, citing the Indonesian Air Force commander. The four-engine aircraft crashed in the southwestern part of North Sumatra approximately two minutes after takeoff from the Soewondo Air Force Base. Read more: http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150630/10240...l#ixzz3eXhFr77P Even C-130H that replaced C-130B has started to retire....in turn already replaced by C-130J...true granddaddy of C-130 May the souls of the deceased rest in peace...... |
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jul 14 2015, 02:58 PM) good for TNI-AU if they get it, this AEW&C much better/more system/sensor than Saab own Erieye AEW. can said much more complete packages. Not a problem....TNI-AU has just established a UAV squadron consisted of Israeli-made Aerostarto bad it using Israel tech inside. http://tni-au.mil.id/berita/pangkoopsau-i-...udara-51-wing-7 |
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