K2 is still be best tank
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Military Thread V17
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May 25 2015, 11:38 PM
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K2 is still be best tank
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May 27 2015, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 27 2015, 11:03 AM) Later buy type10 mbt. maritime boss especially coast guard Japan, Malaysia agree to begin defence industry collaboration Japan and Malaysia have agreed to co-operate on defence trade and related technologies as a reflection of deepening bilateral ties, a joint statement said on 25 May. Following meetings in Tokyo between Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his visiting counterpart, Najib Razak, a statement said the two countries would "initiate negotiations on the framework for co-operation on the transfer of defence equipment and technology". The statement said the move to collaborate in defence trade is part of a commitment by the two countries to raise their bilateral ties to a "strategic partnership". The elevation in ties will also facilitate closer maritime security links, co-operation in Malaysia's infrastructure development programme, and collaboration in training and education. sosej most also MPA K2 QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 27 2015, 04:57 PM) Looks like whatever sph that will be chosen in the future for atm it will be tracked version apa lagi K9 lah... bundle with K2 also goodJust hearsay from industry players |
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May 27 2015, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(hafizushi @ May 27 2015, 10:14 PM) i support k9 for malaysia, pzh 2000 is too heavy and i dont trust china made weapon unless it something like manpad plus track-armor is good at least can survive small grenade to be honest, i rather take pzh2000 to K9. because it most likely be cheaper or as cheap as those from korea as we will be using those overhauled instead of brand new Plus, it german made, pzh2000 fire faster and more shell storage or better This post has been edited by thpace: May 27 2015, 11:31 PM |
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May 27 2015, 11:57 PM
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there news in Russian, that russia have cancelled the mistral deal
Ship lelong lelong.. siapa nak beli LTZ suruh rmn propose beli |
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May 28 2015, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 12:26 AM) While I'm all for constant improvement for the armed forces, I don't like Malaysia getting into arms races for the hell of it. Too many countries ruined themselves putting military priorities first. it operational requirementIf a neighbor buys something, doesn't mean you have to buy something too. not just for the sake of having it what arm race in asean? it just that a common enenmy have appear while others take steps to counter it. we pulak like ltz say move backward |
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May 28 2015, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 12:26 AM) While I'm all for constant improvement for the armed forces, I don't like Malaysia getting into arms races for the hell of it. Too many countries ruined themselves putting military priorities first. apa lah Mindef iniIf a neighbor buys something, doesn't mean you have to buy something too. bos bos lu tak marah? satu benda pun macam tak ada. Not 1 or 2 years. For the next 5 years |
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May 30 2015, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ May 30 2015, 08:49 AM) Weapons sent to Hainan for potential S China Sea conflict i read watchnina times![]() The Chinese J-10 fighter at Hainan's Xiuying port. (Internet photo) After several confrontations with US warships and aircraft in the South China Sea, the People's Liberation Army decided to demonstrate several of its most advanced weapon systems to the people living on Hainan island, which is located close to China, but still in the South China Sea, reported state-run Xinhua News Agency on May 28. The weapons demonstrated at Haikou's Xiuying port included the J-10 fighter, WZ-10 gunship, Type 63A amphibious light tank, anti-tank missile vehicle and armoured command vehicle. Because Hainan is very likely to become the primary PLA base for operations if China enters a conflict in the South China Sea, Beijing wants to prepare the civilians of the island for military conflict through exhibiting those weapon systems, according to the Xinhua. The USS Fort Worth, a US Navy Freedom-class littoral combat ship, was chased by the Yancheng, a Chinese Type 054A guided-missile frigate, earlier this month in waters closed to the Spratly islands on May 11. After that, a US Navy P-8 patrol plane was warned eight times by the PLA Navy while conducting a reconnaissance flight over Fiery Cross Reef to monitor Chinese land reclamations in the region on May 20. Chinese nationalist tabloid, the Global Times, said that China is ready for a war if the United States or other nations claiming the Spratly islands continue to demand the nation to give up its land reclamation activities. The central government said that for China, this is its bottom line, and no country, not even the United States can stop it from doing so. The weapons systems shown in Hainan could thus be considered a political move for China to demonstrate its preparations for a final military confronation. http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150529000012 i munta darah with their news reporting |
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May 31 2015, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 31 2015, 10:25 PM) Brazil 20 Astros II that old number for malaysia, 2012 add another 12 bijiIraq 66 Astros II (also built under licence as the Sajil-60) Malaysia 36 Astros II Saudi Arabia 76 Astros II http://tanknutdave.com/the-brazilian-astros-ii-mlrs/ though i think malaysia should wait for astros 2020 |
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Jun 2 2015, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 2 2015, 09:42 PM) i believe it more of pushing the retirement date back rather than upgradethe upgrade could mean an overhaul of the current mig to best condition to fly. Not a full blwon upgrade package to increase it capabilities even the airforce does not want that Speaking of mrca, even if the rmaf selected today, it still take 1 or 2 years before delivery. During that time the MIG would probably be active as well until the whole batch is delivered, right atreyuangel |
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Jun 2 2015, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Jun 2 2015, 10:01 PM) sad to say but i have to disagreethose mega project is to stimulate our worsening economy in particular the construction It keeping contractors, consultant and suppliers up and running. If no such mega projects, we would be in a worse economic slumps with rising unemployment. That time our armed forces will be worse off with no budget. the only thing i would say our PM did was launching those transportation projects. It helps the city center transport and still keeping the economy running until for the next 10 years or so i would say. |
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Jun 2 2015, 10:44 PM
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Jun 2 2015, 10:48 PM
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Jun 3 2015, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 3 2015, 08:01 PM) bongok ke apatu china ship kat sarawak tak kisah? |
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Jun 3 2015, 08:27 PM
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Any buyers? Russia's Mistral Deal Was Sunk From the Start
![]() ![]() ![]() QUOTE As expected, initial negotiations broke down over the question of how much France should compensate Russia for canceling delivery of two Mistral helicopter carrier ships after this country annexed Crimea. Moscow stated that the offer from Paris was totally unacceptable. A short time later, the head of shipbuilding for the Russian Navy, Captain Vladimir Tryapichnikov reported that "our military-industrial complex is fully capable of building such a ship. We are now designing a new type of large amphibious assault ship. It is taking shape in the final stage." Of course, that begs the question of why Moscow bothered ordering the Mistral if Russia's defense industry is so highly capable. Every sailor knows that some ships bring nothing but trouble from the moment they hit water. For Russia, the Mistral has been one such vessel. РЕКЛАМА Just ask Oleg Bochkarev, Military-Industrial Commission deputy chairman. Only the devil knows what prompted him to speculate to reporters about the ill-fated Mistral during a conference titled "Information technology in the service of the military-industrial complex" held in Tatarstan last month. When asked about the fate of the helicopter carrier ships, Bochkarev responded that it was "a matter of fact that Russia is not taking the Mistral ships." And next he revealed an important secret. According to Bochkarev, after rejecting the Mistral, Russia plans to build its own amphibious assault ship, but of a new type that does not attempt to simply copy the Mistral. "We have plans for such ships," he said. "They are in development, but we designed them according to a different class of ship, we have a different ideology for landing ships. Our objective is not to copy the Mistral," he told reporters. The news that Russia had rejected the Mistral warships made immediate headlines, and senior Moscow officials reacted just as quickly. According to a highly placed source, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin sternly reprimanded his insubordinate subordinate, Bochkarev, and immediately instructed his staff to draw up rules explaining that Military-Industrial Commission members can only make comments to the press with the personal permission of the commission's chairman. The inference is that, despite serving as a senior official in the military-industrial complex, Bochkarev has nothing to do with the Mistral negotiations or the navy in general, and is occupied solely with army and airborne troops issues. My guess is that Bochkarev's revelation undermined Russia's negotiating position for its upcoming talks with France. After all, Moscow is demanding 1.16 billion euros ($1.26 billion) for breach of contract, whereas Paris is offering only 785 million euros ($854 million) in compensation. What's more, Moscow claims that it is still prepared to take delivery of the Mistrals to settle the matter. However, it is clear that Bochkarev told the unvarnished truth. Russia has no need for the Mistral helicopter carriers. The time for those warships ended before it ever really began. Moscow had originally placed the order for the Mistrals when it was formulating a new naval strategy for Russia. The fact is that the Russian fleet mostly consists of the remains of the Soviet fleet that was primarily designed to ensure the smooth operation of the navy's nuclear submarines. Those, in turn, were designed to deliver a nuclear strike against the United States and to destroy enemy aircraft carriers groups. It would have been somewhat awkward for Moscow to have maintained that objective while it declared its partnership with the West. It also came to light that the Russian Navy's assault landing capacity fell far short of that needed to mount a rapid response. The Russian Marines of the Black Sea Fleet were supposed to have taken part in the Russia-Georgia war in 2008, but they were still loading onto their landing craft when the conflict ended five days later. The Mistral embodies a different philosophy of war at sea: the ability for a country to project its power globally, to stage hostage rescue operations, to evacuate its citizens from territories seized by large-scale unrest and to battle modern and heavily armed pirates. It is no coincidence that Bochkarev spoke of different concepts of landing forces. With the Mistral, a limited force can land quickly, get the job done and get out. The Soviet concept involved a large-scale landing force deploying from the sea in armored vehicles and securing a foothold on land until the "main forces" could arrive. In short, it was geared for a major war. But now Russia has renewed its military confrontation with the U.S. and NATO, thereby reviving the old objectives of the Soviet Navy. In other words, Moscow need no longer pay lip service to that newfangled idea of "projecting power." The Russian fleet is once again focused on confronting the United States. And for that, the Mistral is definitely not necessary. |
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Jun 3 2015, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 3 2015, 08:42 PM) IINM they're within our EEZ border, but EEZ is in effect for below surface of the sea..on the surface is international waters..deswai we can't do anything..correct me if i'm wrong LTZ..but then again..do we even have an EEZ in that region? AFAIK we don't even establish the 'baseline'.. coast guard, china second navystill, LTZ bro, u kenot scare them off? maybe suddenly resurface 300m beside them...or maybe while underwater, deliberately echo a sonar sound that's commonly from torpedos (that's if torpedo do have sonar sounds..idk..lulz..) to prank them.. sending a military ships might just escalate the matter worse. Unless it a military ship that park there, |
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Jun 3 2015, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 3 2015, 08:49 PM) but how they gonna know it's our sub? who else have scorpene here? and within close proximity to the nation. Does not take a rocket scientist to know who sub it is |
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Jun 3 2015, 09:45 PM
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Jun 4 2015, 12:05 AM
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Malaysia should consider buying those rusian ex mistral at least satu biji
Russian is offloading them quick and french is deperate for a buyer. One good buyer is india as they may need it but india good relationship with russian may play an upper hand. Second is china but china is developing their own type 81 with help from french as usual though they wont admit it. Plus, us wont be happy givibg it to china |
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Jun 4 2015, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 4 2015, 11:40 AM) I already get LHD=/= aircraft carrier. why malaysia wanted an lhd initially.. I was told it because it will be a tri-service usage. So both airforce, navy and army will land their heli on the flat deck and operating them would be the navy. The annual operation would be taken from the armed forces budget rather than the navy though the navy will be the one running the shipThai Aircraft carrier: No Harrier, ends up tied at dock, become useless=white elephant Potential Malaysian Mistral: potentially too much cost for malaysia, potentially ends up tied at dock, potentially become useless=potential white elephant No difference there. It not much of the amphibious capability or power projection malaysia wanted but rather the transport and command role. U can bet u will be seeing the mistral assuming if we take it moving between west and east malaysia frequently why not opts for a LDP instead i you ask? The requirement may have been tweaked now but back then they wanted to get heli as close to the area of focus, may it be suluk landing spot or example like kelantan flood. the lhd will be parked just at the coast and transport. A flat deck allows for more heli operations simple as that. Amphibious is just an added bonus is have |
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Jun 6 2015, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 6 2015, 10:44 AM) EC725 seems now as momentum for Rescue mission..... the army wanted a ram opening door heli just thinking back many objection to get it few year a go.... Mindef should get get more, like 2 unit also fine。 btw the ec725 does not come problem free. As usual from airbus military. |
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