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IReallyNeed Answers
post Jun 25 2015, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 25 2015, 10:58 AM)
haha, just easy to talk,
some more cost each Hawk around usd 30 million for now.
we no have so many pilot, logistic, maintenance capability for 1000 jet, than just make our air-force bankrupt on operation cost.
we have around 100 fighter than already very good liao. every 3 squadron for West/East malaysia.
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wow, hawk also 30mil already ar?

but seriously, how capable are our airforce?

i know we have our mkm and super hornet,

but pitting them against our neighbor and overall capabilities on a defensive run, how long will they last.


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post Jun 25 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ Jun 25 2015, 11:41 AM)
Not only that. If it comes to a war of attrition, Malaysia has a disadvantage against most of our neighbours and especially against the guy we are facing in SCS right now. Personally, I believe our best bet is to go for quality (in hardware, personnel, training, etc.).
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given how much outsider are interested in this region,

i doubt playing the attrition card would be useless here,

we have vast resources, and good trading route, unless blockade happen beyond SCS, im sure resources will be pouring in from the other end,

brunei and peenoisee might be first to go, but remaining country will just be there standing
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so only malaysia have biggest ball to stand by our own feet and no need to beg US?

or we just ignorant of the potential threat?

and what sinkie says?

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post Jun 25 2015, 12:14 PM

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China invites former soldiers living in Taiwan to Beijing for VJ-day war commemorations

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Chinese soldiers rest between operations during the 1937-1945 Sino-Japanese war

China will welcome former soldiers living in Taiwan who fought against Japan in World War Two to take part in commemorations marking 70 years since the end of the conflict in Asia, state media said on Wednesday.

Chinese President Xi Jinping will oversee a military parade through Beijing's Tiananmen Square and other events on Sept. 3 and has invited foreign military officials to take part, though not said explicitly who will come.

After World War Two, Chinese Communists and Nationalists resumed a civil war that ended when Nationalist forces withdrew to Taiwan in 1949.

Though ruled separately, China claims Taiwan as its own, and has never renounced the use of force to bring it under its rule. No peace treaty to formally end the war has ever been signed.

Ma Xiaoguang, spokesman for China's Taiwan Affairs Office, said Beijing would welcome anyone from Taiwan to take part, but especially old soldiers, family members and descendants, state news agency Xinhua said.

"Victory in the war against Japan was a great victory for the entire Chinese nation," Ma said. "Under the historical conditions, compatriots on both sides of the Taiwan Strait (should) jointly remember the victory."
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post Jun 25 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 25 2015, 12:01 PM)
given how much outsider are interested in this region,

i doubt playing the attrition card would be useless here,

we have vast resources, and good trading route, unless blockade happen beyond SCS, im sure resources will be pouring in from the other end,

brunei and peenoisee might be first to go, but remaining country will just be there standing
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Should a real hot war happens, it does not matter how much resources we have (which I disagree, most of our neighbours and the guy in SCS has same or even more) or trade routes or material assistance we get from outsiders (which I also disagree, depending on who we are fighting and whats the cause, those outsiders might not want to assist us also because a) they might not agree with our cause, b) they might also be on friendly terms with our enemy country or c) just don't want to get involved - like how we don't really want to get involve with Philippines tit-for-tat with China even though theoretically we are facing same issue) because in a war of attrition 1 Malaysian lost in combat is much higher in relative 'cost' to one Thai, one Indonesian or 1 Chinese as we have far less population and hence able-bodied men for war.

A war of attrition you are proposing is what the Russians did in WW2 and they lost 8-14 million or the Vietnamese did against the US where they lost half a million combatants (these does not count civilian casualties).

Anyway, I will not want to propose that we base our national military strategy on getting our pilots into 2nd-rate or less advanced fighters to fight for our country so that even if lose 50% of our men we reach our objective.
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Air National Guard F-16 crashes near Douglas, Arizona, sparks 'massive fire'

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An F-16 jet from the Air National Guard has crashed near the town of Douglas, Arizona, the Air Force reported.

The accident happened around 8 pm, a spokesperson for the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base said.

It was not immediately clear whether the pilot of the jet survived.


http://rt.com/usa/269572-f16-crash-arizona-douglas/

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The F-16 that crashed and ingnited a gas pipe line near Douglas Municipal Airport on 24 June 2015 during a evening training mission was in fact an Iraqi Air Force jet, piloted by an Iraqi pilot who was presumably killed in the incident. This was confirmed on Thursday by the Iraqi ministry of Defense in Baghdad.

http://airheadsfly.com/2015/06/25/iraqi-ai...-crashes-in-us/

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post Jun 25 2015, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 25 2015, 11:58 AM)
wow, hawk also 30mil already ar?

but seriously, how capable are our airforce?

i know we have our mkm and super hornet,

but pitting them against our neighbor and overall capabilities on a defensive run, how long will they last.
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ya loh... 30 million .。。。

well not put too much high expectation on our AirForce, we not enough fighter for long endurance air combat. and to coverage sabah/sarawak
As RMAF they need 6 squadron means 18 x 6 = 108 fighter.
Than upto date RMAF only have 36 jet= Su30+F18+Mig29(10 unit working)
as compare to Singapore they have 80 unit F15+F16 combine.
as compare to Thailand they have 67 unit = JAS39+F16
as compare to Indonesia have about 50 unit = Su27/30/F16
(only 3 Gen fighter calculate)

ideally (depend budget)
2 squadron su-30 or Su-50/55 (future) heavy fighter
2 squadron F18/rafale/Typhoon/f35 medium class fighter
2 squadron JAS39 for light fighter (FA50 can be consider)

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71 percent of Vietnamese support the U.S. military presence in Asia

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From about 1965-1973, U.S. troops fought a war in Vietnam that failed in all its objectives and killed as many as three million Vietnamese citizens. So it's little short of astonishing that fully 71 percent of the Vietnamese population supports the current U.S. military presence in Asia, per a poll from the Pew Research Center:

http://theweek.com/speedreads/562537/71-pe...y-presence-asia
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Sure makes sense. They won.

While the losses in the 1988 thing is still fresh in memory.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 25 2015, 09:23 AM)
No SinoDefence forum? I am disappoint. biggrin.gif
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Thanks bro. smile.gif notworthy.gif

They got so many military forum. Oh well, sometime i think we need a proper military forum. I mean I knew Mymil got its own forum, but that forum was created through the forumms.net so a bit not so professional.

To be honest, i myself got an abandoned forum. And some of you prolly knew about it. Yes, I am Masboleh! smile.gif
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KAI to Develop Civilian and Military Helicopters

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Korea Aerospace Industries will plunge into a development program of both civilian and military helicopters.

The aerospace company said on June 25 that it signed an agreement with the Ministry of Industry, Trade, and Energy and the Defense Acquisition Program Administration to develop light civil helicopters and light armed helicopters.

Under the terms of the contract, KAI will develop light civil helicopters under the direction of the industry ministry by 2020 after which the DAPA will take over to develop light armed helicopters based on the civil helicopter design by 2022. In the project to develop the 4.5-ton light civil helicopter, the industry ministry (350 billion won), KAI (200 billion won), Airbus Helicopters (400 billion won) will invest a total of 950 billion won.

In the light armed helicopter development project initiated by the Defense Acquisition Program Administration, a total of 650 billion won will be invested. The military will replace the current helicopter model (500MD) to be obsolete by then with the new LAH model. The program is intended to help the Korean aerospace manufacturer secure core production technology while allowing it to be internationally competitive. The world's helicopter market is forecast to grow to US$635 billion by 2021 from 55,000 helicopters current in use.

Once the development project is completed, KAI aims to sell 1,000 helicopters in Korea and elsewhere, with 23 trillion won of sales revenue and 110,000 jobs from it. Scores of partner firms and research centers will take part in the development project, contributing to the growth of the nation's aerospace industry.

http://www.koreaittimes.com/story/51160/ka...ary-helicopters
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Indonesia holds LST handover ceremony

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore and Mrityunjoy Mazumdar, Alameda, California - IHS Jane's Navy International
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The Indonesian Navy's LST Teluk Bintuni, during its handover ceremony. Source: PT Daya Radar Utama

The Indonesian Ministry of Defense (MoD) has held a handover ceremony for an indigenously produced landing ship tank (LST) vessel, dubbed the 'leopard carrier' by the Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL). The ceremony took place on 17 June.

The vessel, KRI Teluk Bintuni (520), had in fact been commissioned into the TNI-AL's Military Sea Lift Command (KOLINLAMIL) in a ceremony presided over by then Indonesian defence minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro in September 2014.

IHS Jane's understands that the LST returned to the shipbuilder PT Daya Radar Utama (PT DRU) for more work, following the commissioning.

According to specifications provided by the shipbuilder, Teluk Bintuni has a top speed of 16 kt and can accommodate up to 120 crew. The 5,200-tonne LST has a length of 120 m, a beam of 18 m, and a draft of 3 m.

Teluk Bintuni is powered by two South Korean-built STX MAN 9L27/38 engines, each rated at 3,285 kW at 800 rpm.

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Indonesian defence minister Ryamizard Ryacudu during the handover ceremony for the LST Teluk Bintuni on 17 June 2015. (Indonesian Ministry of Defence)

Its payload is around 2,300 tonnes, which translates to 18 Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks, one armoured bridgelaying vehicle, and a transporter; alternatively, this payload capacity enables the LST to carry 15 BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles instead.

To facilitate rapid vehicle loading and unloading, the LST has a 90-tonne turntable supplied by PT Pinmarine, which has also supplied other deck equipment such as cranes.

As well as its crew, the LST can carry around 350 troops. The ship also can embark one medium helicopter, according to PT DRU. It is armed with a single 40 mm Bofors L70 gun, a 20 mm cannon, and two heavy machine guns.


http://www.janes.com/article/52541/indones...ndover-ceremony
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China's WS-64 touted as first precision anti-ship rocket launcher

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A visitor stands near a WS-63 rocket during the China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, Guangdong province, Nov. 11, 2014. (Photo/CFP)

China's WS-64 is the world's first precision-guided anti-ship missile rocket launcher system, reports Duowei News, a US-based Chinese political news outlet.

The WS-64, which has been on display at recent military exhibitions around the world, is the latest addition to the Weishi or "Guardian" multiple rocket launcher systems developed by Sichuan Aerospace Industry Corporation, a subsidiary of the state-owned China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp, the country's main aerospace contractor.

The defining feature of the WS-64 is its ability to effectively strike different types of targets at high precision thanks to its composite inertial/GPS + broadband passive radar homing guidance technology. The WS-35 and WS-3, for example, can already hit stationary targets with a high degree of accuracy, but the WS-64's guidance system allows it to take down moving targets like warships.

This means the WS-64 is China's and potentially the world's first precision-guided anti-ship weapon system, Duowei said, adding that it will be particularly attractive to countries without advanced fighter jets or air-launched anti-ship weapons as it enables attacks on enemy vessels from long distances.

The WS-64, which needs to be paired with a heavy, high-mobility vehicle as a base, carries 300-millimeter rockets and has a range of 120 to 280 kilometers with a launch preparation time of only eight to nine minutes. The system is also said to have highly adaptable and simplified launch capabilities because it can launched both vertically or from a tilted angle.

Importantly, the system comes with an INS/GNSS navigation system that is compatible with China's Beidou Navigation Satellite System. The WS-64 claims a circular error probable (CEP) of less than 30 meters, and when in radar homing mode, the CEP is reduced even further to less than 10 m.

Duowei suggests that the WS-64 could form a key component of the naval defense system of a small or mid-sized country, claiming that its deterrent power is the next best thing to having a nuclear weapon.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150625000159
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Meet the Terminator 2: Russia's BMPT-2 Combat Vehicle Dazzles at Army-2015

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One of the main attractions of the International Military-Technical Forum Army-2015 in Kubinka became the BMPT-72, a modernized version of the unique Russian-made BMPT tank support combat vehicle. This is no surprise given that the BMPT-72, also known as the 'Terminator 2', has only been shown to the public on a few occasions, the Russian television channel Zvezda reported.

Developed by Russia's UralVagonZavod Corporation and built on the on the chassis of T-72 battle tank, the BMPT-72 multipurpose tank support combat vehicle is fitted with a state-of-the-art guided weapons system and is capable of destroying infantry vehicles, enemy tanks and other armored objects, as well as helicopters.

As such, the BMPT-72 is a unique project, especially in terms of its powerful armament, Zvezda said, citing Russian military expert Viktor Murakhovsky.

"The BMPT-72 is unique in featuring a variety of weapons, from rapid-fire guns to grenade launchers, which is why fighting enemy armored vehicles and manpower is an easy task for the Terminator-2," Murakhovsky said.

The BMPT-72 is armed with two 30-mm 2A42 automatic cannons that can load ammunition of 850 rounds, four laser-guided Ataka-T anti-tank missile systems and one coaxial machine gun with a remote reloading mechanism.

The vehicle can survive in different climates and zones, including urban areas, and in any light conditions. The Terminator 2 is equipped with night vision, a laser range finder, as well as an integrated laser controlled missile guidance system. It can detect targets within a 5km range, day or night.

Compared to the BMPT, only three crew are used on the BMPT-72, with two grenade launching positions now not required due to automation. The combat weight was also reduced from 47 to 44 tons, with the length and the width standing at 7.2 meters and 3.59 meters, respectively.

According to Murakhovsky, it is quite possible to assemble this advanced vehicle without spending hefty sums from state coffers.

"It's cheap and efficient", he said when asked how much money the BMPT-72 costs to build and operate.

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150625/1023824672.html

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Survey Shows World Support for US Policy in Asia, Mideast

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The poll found strong support for the U.S. decision to place a greater military priority on the Pacific, where many countries feel they are being challenged by China's growing economic might, military power and assertiveness.

“By and large, people tended to say that this was a good thing, that they see a U.S. military presence in the region as being something that encourages stability," Wike said.

Overall, a global median of 51 percent support increased U.S. military resources in Asia, compared to 34 percent who said they are opposed. Support for the pivot was particularly high in the Philippines, Vietnam and Japan, all of which have territorial disputes with China.

One exception was Malaysia, "where 54 percent believe [the U.S. defense pivot] is a bad thing because it could lead to conflict with China," according to Pew.


http://www.voanews.com/content/survey-show...st/2835079.html
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The forgotten jungle heroes of Borneo

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The Para heroes of Palman Mapu

Troops from the Parachute Regiment, outnumbered by more than 10 to one, withstand a ferocious enemy attack lasting more than two hours.

A firefight which should have ended in bloody defeat instead becomes an astonishing victory against the odds.

The feat has been likened by one senior officer to the Battle of Rorke’s Drift during the 19th century in Africa when a garrison of 150 British troops fought off up to 4,000 Zulu warriors.

But you will struggle to find much in the history books about the battle for Plaman Mapu, which happened 50 years ago on the border of Malaysia and Indonesia.

That is about to change with the imminent screening of a new documentary about this largely forgotten incident.

The latest in the We Were There series on Forces TV reveals the story of the brave 36 soldiers and shows three surviving veterans revisiting the scene of their triumph five decades later.

It is a bittersweet experience as the men are feted by locals and pay tribute to fallen comrades.

Back in 1965 Les Simcock, then 18, was on leave and in a cinema with a girl when his name flashed up on the screen.

The message was to alert him that he had received a telegram ordering him to report back for duty.

I’d thought we were just there for a bit of guard duty and never imagined we’d actually have to fight

Private Les Simcock

Les and his colleagues in 2 Para were bound for Malaysia, a fledgling state that was being supported by Britain.

Over the next six weeks they received intense jungle training before being deployed to the island of Borneo where they were posted to a base on the 1,000-mile border with communist leaning Indonesia.


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The remaining 36 men including Private Les Simcock were dug in but the attack starting at 5am came as a surprise. Most of the Paras were sleeping and a downpour helped camouflage the sound of the advancing Indonesians.

The attack was intended by Indonesia to impress Russia and China, while also destabilising Malaysia with its Western allies.

“I’d thought we were just there for a bit of guard duty and never imagined we’d actually have to fight,” recalls Les, 68, from Portsoy, Aberdeenshire, who was the youngest soldier on the base.

He said: “The first thing I heard was machine-gun fire then blasts and bangs. The whole place seemed to explode. In the darkness I didn’t know if it was 10 people attacking us or 1,000. A rocket -propelled grenade landed about three feet away from me but fortunately it didn’t go off, otherwise that would have been me finished.”

One British soldier was killed in the initial bombardment and another was fatally wounded.

Within moments the first wave of Indonesian special forces was through the perimeter barbed wire and inside the compound. It seemed certain that the base would be overrun before the British troops could gather their wits.

It is thought that the attack was deliberately launched when the garrison strength was weak.

Yet this proved to be a mistake because the British troops were spread out thinly and casualties were light.

Slowly the fightback began, led by Sergeant Major John Williams. He grabbed a sub-machine gun and sprinted towards the onrushing Indonesians, firing aggressively from the hip.

His men were inspired by his actions and Private George Averre, from Sunderland, seized the only remaining undamaged mortar.

However he faced a problem because the fighting was now at close quarters and the weapon was designed to fi re over much longer distances.

Thinking on his feet the 22-yearold pulled the mortar off its tripod to change the angle and allow the shells to hit the advancing enemy just 25 yards away.


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It is thought that about 60 Indonesians were killed. The base is now overgrown but traces of the battle remain, including scores of cartridge cases, mortar fuses and the scars of the trenches.

Field Marshall Lord Carver said immediately after the battle: “The battle of Plaman Mapu and the brave efforts of the 2 Para soldiers there on the day can be likened to the defence of Rorke’s Drift.”

GILL BOYD, a former Para and regimental historian who has spent years researching the battle, adds: “The bravery of the young men who held that position that night was totally synonymous with the ethos of the Parachute Regiment soldier: surrounded, outnumbered and outgunned but never a thought of surrender.”

Yet the tally of military awards is low given the heroic defence of the garrison against an estimated 400 elite enemy soldiers.

Sergeant Major Williams, who lost an eye in the battle and was thereafter known as “Patch”, received the Distinguished Conduct Medal.

One further medal was handed out and Mick Murtagh was mentioned in dispatches.

It is claimed that the authorities did not want to draw attention to this largely secret war being waged in South-east Asia.

It was feared that the conflict could escalate into “Britain’s Vietnam” and was politically sensitive.

But after the failure of the attack on the garrison at Plaman Mapu the Indonesians never again dared to threaten a British border post in Malaysia.


http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/5...e-heroes-Borneo
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China's WS-64 touted as first precision anti-ship rocket launcher

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A visitor stands near a WS-63 rocket during the China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, Guangdong province, Nov. 11, 2014. (Photo/CFP)

China's WS-64 is the world's first precision-guided anti-ship missile rocket launcher system, reports Duowei News, a US-based Chinese political news outlet.

The WS-64, which has been on display at recent military exhibitions around the world, is the latest addition to the Weishi or "Guardian" multiple rocket launcher systems developed by Sichuan Aerospace Industry Corporation, a subsidiary of the state-owned China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp, the country's main aerospace contractor.

The defining feature of the WS-64 is its ability to effectively strike different types of targets at high precision thanks to its composite inertial/GPS + broadband passive radar homing guidance technology. The WS-35 and WS-3, for example, can already hit stationary targets with a high degree of accuracy, but the WS-64's guidance system allows it to take down moving targets like warships.

This means the WS-64 is China's and potentially the world's first precision-guided anti-ship weapon system, Duowei said, adding that it will be particularly attractive to countries without advanced fighter jets or air-launched anti-ship weapons as it enables attacks on enemy vessels from long distances.

The WS-64, which needs to be paired with a heavy, high-mobility vehicle as a base, carries 300-millimeter rockets and has a range of 120 to 280 kilometers with a launch preparation time of only eight to nine minutes. The system is also said to have highly adaptable and simplified launch capabilities because it can launched both vertically or from a tilted angle.

Importantly, the system comes with an INS/GNSS navigation system that is compatible with China's Beidou Navigation Satellite System. The WS-64 claims a circular error probable (CEP) of less than 30 meters, and when in radar homing mode, the CEP is reduced even further to less than 10 m.

Duowei suggests that the WS-64 could form a key component of the naval defense system of a small or mid-sized country, claiming that its deterrent power is the next best thing to having a nuclear weapon.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150625000159
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Air National Guard F-16 crashes near Douglas, Arizona, sparks 'massive fire'

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http://rt.com/usa/269572-f16-crash-arizona-douglas/
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The F-16 that crashed and ingnited a gas pipe line near Douglas Municipal Airport on 24 June 2015 during a evening training mission was in fact an Iraqi Air Force jet, piloted by an Iraqi pilot who was presumably killed in the incident. This was confirmed on Thursday by the Iraqi ministry of Defense in Baghdad.

http://airheadsfly.com/2015/06/25/iraqi-ai...-crashes-in-us/
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 11:11 PM)
Probably also fighter with the lowest cost to operate in TUDM. biggrin.gif

Wonder why we never got more than 20 last time. AFAIK we only bought 18 Hawk 208 fighters & 4 Hawk 108 trainer planes , nowadays all probably only 13-14 left in service.
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