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thpace
post Jun 25 2015, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 25 2015, 04:13 AM)
Dont know about this..... maybe true or maybe not. U know la when we are facing that mighty destroyer or big frigate...... it is a provocation already.

But run like dogs is like what?? how does it looks like??
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Biasa ikut the coast guard what type of grey ship?
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 25 2015, 01:23 AM)
Is that a sidewinder ?
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nmpk mcm pendek drpd AIM-9

more to AIM-4 Falcon
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 25 2015, 01:23 AM)
Is that a sidewinder ?
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looks like it, just that the front part is missing.. probably ady been removed by eod
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:29 AM

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Biasa ikut the coast guard what type of grey ship?
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TLDM...kapal limited. So semua dia belasah. FAC, corvette, NGPV, frigate
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:36 AM

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PH, Japan defy China for 2nd straight day

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The Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force commander, Hiromi Hamano, told reporters that Wednesday’s joint training exercise—which he termed a humanitarian and disaster response drill—was a success, shortly after the Orion landed at a Philippine air base in Palawan.

“I think it is important to continue HADR (humanitarian and disaster response), SAR (search and rescue) training with the Philippine Navy,” Hamano told reporters.

The Philippine Navy said the drill was a search-and-rescue exercise.

“It should not be taken as an affront to any other and is an expression of cooperation and learning from all those involved,” said Cmdr. Lued Lincuna, a spokesperson for the Philippine Navy.

And a spokesperson for President Aquino said this week’s activities “should not be taken as an affront” to any other nation.

No spying

“The Philippines has had these exercises before with our strategic partners,” deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said in a statement.

A spokesperson for the Japanese defense department said the Orion was not used to spy over the South China Sea.

“The purpose of this exercise is to enhance the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force’s capabilities in humanitarian support and disaster relief, not to conduct surveillance activities,” she said.

The surveillance plane crew did not observe anything unusual in the waters, Hamano said.

Recto Bank lies about 153 km west of Palawan, within the Philippines’ 370-km exclusive economic zone.

An encounter near Recto Bank between a Chinese vessel and a survey ship contracted by Philippine firm Philex Petroleum in 2012 has stalled exploration in the area.


http://globalnation.inquirer.net/125127/ph...py-plane-flight
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 25 2015, 08:29 AM)
TLDM...kapal limited. So semua dia belasah. FAC, corvette, NGPV, frigate
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I mean kapal grey china yang ikut belakang their coast guard
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:44 AM

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Turkey-China missile deal stalls over technology transfer

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Ismail Demir, head of Turkey's Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, has said the nation has not yet made a final decision regarding the purchase of the FD-2000, the export version of the Chinese HQ-9 air defense missile, because Beijing has not yet agreed to transfer the weapon's system technology to Istanbul, according to the Moscow-based Military Parade on June 22.

The Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies based in Moscow recently translated an interview between CNN and Ismail Demir during the 12th International Defence Industry Fair in Istanbul last month. Demir said Turkey is still holding negotiations with four potential contractors, including China. He said that the FD-2000 was chosen in 2013 to be Turkey's next-generation medium-range air defense missile due to its cost effectiveness.

Having apparently overcome the objections of the United States, the procurement deal for the FD-2000 hit a snag at China's refusal to transfer the missile technology to Turkey. Though the FD-2000 may be the cheapest missile system Turkey can get, Demir said the cost will still be high to acquire the missile, radar, fire-control system and software. Demir said that Turkey deserves access to the whole HQ-9 technology package from China in order to operate the system properly.

Due to protests from the United States and other NATO members, Turkey wavered on whether to purchase the Chinese missile system until February this year. Demir said Ankara changed its policy because other nations, the US included, also refused to transfer the technology the nation would need to operate the system.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150624000144
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:54 AM

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Navy's B36bn sub purchase plan firms up

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The 36-billion-baht budget covers two submarines, as well as maintenance and training of the navy's personnel. Some reports say China has offered special, undisclosed packages to win the deal.

Sources in the navy said there are two short-listed countries. China is the No.1 option, followed by South Korea.

Adm Narongpol, who spoke in his capacity as head of the navy committee, said the purchase would be good for the national economy.

Another source in the navy dismissed concerns that Chinese-made submarines may not be reliable.

"We choose the best for the country. The submarines we buy must be suitable. We are concerned about the safety of our men. The committee's reputation will suffer if it makes the wrong choice," said a panel source.

A committee member who declined to be named said the Chinese-made subs are the cheapest and good quality.

He insisted the committee looked at the whole package in making its decision as China also offered military technology transfer and training. Other countries would charge more for a similar package.

"We should not look down on Chinese submarines," a committee member said, adding China has made progress in arms research and development.

He likened the submarine deal to car buying. "If we are able to buy a Mercedes but have no money left for petrol, we should look at a top model Toyota instead, which would still leave some money for petrol."


http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion...e-plan-firms-up
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 25 2015, 08:37 AM)
I mean kapal grey china yang ikut belakang their coast guard
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Kadang2 je diorng dtg..... yg permanent coast guard je. Tak ingt kelas ape....tp frigate je.
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:15 AM

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China hands over decommissioned Type 037 Haiqing-class OPVs to Tanzania

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China recently transferred two decommissioned 500-ton Type 037 Haiqing-class OPV to the Tanzanian Naval command (hull number 710 and 711). The ships were originally built in the 1960s as anti-submarine corvettes, but advances in submarine designs rendered them obsolete in the 1980s and they were then repurposed by the PLA Navy as offshore patrol vessels.

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Type 037 OPV in PLA Navy service

The patrol vessels were given free of charge by China to help strengthen the Tanzanian navy against smugglers and cross-border threats. China is perhaps Tanzania's most important foreign partner, with significant Chinese contributions to the Tanzanian economy and military forces.

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post Jun 25 2015, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(LaVilla @ Jun 25 2015, 04:28 AM)
Got link for the china military forum?
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2 major china military forum.

http://lt.cjdby.net/

http://www.fyjs.cn/forum.php
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 25 2015, 09:19 AM)
No SinoDefence forum? I am disappoint. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 25 2015, 08:59 AM)
Kadang2 je diorng dtg..... yg permanent coast guard je. Tak ingt kelas ape....tp frigate je.
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Usually when they come? After their coast guard kena harass?
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 25 2015, 09:23 AM)
No SinoDefence forum? I am disappoint. biggrin.gif
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majority china don't know English, china military forum read china language one more close to what they share, there thinking, there info. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 24 2015, 11:17 PM)
not only low cost, but mainly Hawk (like other traning jet) have higher Airframe/fuselage usage hours,  Hawk have 20,000 hrs, than extend to 30,000 hours.
F18 still have design 6000 hours, than can extend to 8000, maximum should be around 10,000 hrs.
so Hawk as buruh kasar is very true,
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buy thousand la, we cant win with tech and quality, then we just have to overwhelm the enemy with numbers. lol

imagine spamming then with number like what we did in CnC last time. lol
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:54 AM

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why not a single chinese official in sight?

mat salleh ada pulak?

Chinese scare of smelly nigga? haha
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:58 AM

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so only malaysia have biggest ball to stand by our own feet and no need to beg US?

or we just ignorant of the potential threat?

and what sinkie says?

haha

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post Jun 25 2015, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 25 2015, 09:52 AM)
buy thousand la, we cant win with tech and quality, then we just have to overwhelm the enemy with numbers. lol

imagine spamming then with number like what we did in CnC last time. lol
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haha, just easy to talk,
some more cost each Hawk around usd 30 million for now.
we no have so many pilot, logistic, maintenance capability for 1000 jet, than just make our air-force bankrupt on operation cost.
we have around 100 fighter than already very good liao. every 3 squadron for West/East malaysia.

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post Jun 25 2015, 11:30 AM

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Indonesian and Swedish delegates in front of the Visby Class Corvette


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Admiral Ade Supandi and HE the Ambassador of Indonesia being briefed while on board the Visby Class Corvette


http://saab.com/region/indonesia/about-saa...ish-naval-base/

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post Jun 25 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Jun 25 2015, 09:52 AM)
buy thousand la, we cant win with tech and quality, then we just have to overwhelm the enemy with numbers. lol

imagine spamming then with number like what we did in CnC last time. lol
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 25 2015, 10:58 AM)
haha, just easy to talk,
some more cost each Hawk around usd 30 million for now.
we no have so many pilot, logistic, maintenance capability for 1000 jet, than just make our air-force bankrupt on operation cost.
we have around 100 fighter than already very good liao. every 3 squadron for West/East malaysia.
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Not only that. If it comes to a war of attrition, Malaysia has a disadvantage against most of our neighbours and especially against the guy we are facing in SCS right now. Personally, I believe our best bet is to go for quality (in hardware, personnel, training, etc.).

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