QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Sep 1 2015, 02:46 AM)
any think also ok.but mistral have chance in 20%
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Sep 1 2015, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE Rafale Fighters, Mistral Aircraft Carrier Not On Malaysian Purchase List Source : Our Bureau ~ Dated : Monday, August 31, 2015 @ 03:39 PM Malaysian defense minister omitted mentioning big purchases like Rafale fighter jets and Mistral aircraft carrier ahead of French Defense Minister’s visit to the nation. Malaysian defense minister, Hishammuddin Hussein said last Friday, “Malaysia will proceed with acquiring armed forces’ assets under the 11th Malaysian plan despite current economic challenges. Upgrading of the ‘Nuri’ Sikorsky S-61A-4 helicopter, Hercules C-130, Admiral Class Corvette and the acquisition of other assets for the three wings of the armed forces (ATM)”. “The economic situation will not harm the core of the ministry's "business" which was to ensure national security and boost the morale of ATM personnel and its veterans,” he said. Hishammuddin omitted to mention big purchases highlighted in French defense news portals about the possible purchase of one of the Mistral aircraft carriers ordered by Russia which was cancelled by France citing Ukraine crisis. The cost of buying and running just one of these Mistral warships will be cost Malaysia a minimum of RM4 billion (USD $1 billion) at the very least. “It can be done in the near future, and with transparency. The assets are not cheap, and it must be accepted by the public. It must be something that we need, but at the same time we must be realistic on whether or not we can afford it,” Hishammuddin said. The French defense minister is reported to be in talks with Malaysia to sell us one of these Mistral aircraft carriers, International media reported earlier last week. http://www.defenseworld.net/news/13904/Raf...st#.VeUcGDnlplE This post has been edited by azriel: Sep 1 2015, 11:34 AM |
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Sep 1 2015, 11:39 AM
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Ukrainian kids learn to fight at military summer camp ![]() STARE, Ukraine (AP) — More than 100 Ukrainian schoolchildren will have unusual tales to tell their mates when classes resume, after spending part of their summer vacations undergoing training by the National Guard. The training at a National Guard camp about 75 kilometers (45 miles) from Kiev taught children aged 11-15 rudimentary military skills and gave them a taste of army life in courses over three days. At night the children were quartered in army tents; by day they got instruction in marksmanship, hand-to-hand fighting, weapons maintenance, first aid, map reading and orienteering. For 11-year-old Oleksander Olinichenko, whose mother and father are both in the Ukrainian army, the camp was a chance to pursue his interest in all things military, as well as show his patriotism. "''I like everything here, they teach me to take apart and to assemble the assault rifle, they teach us hand-to-hand fighting, first aid - it's very interesting," said Oleksander, his face disguised by military goggles and a regulation helmet. Some children are from military families in Kiev, others are refugees who relocated to the Ukrainian capital, having left their homes in eastern Ukraine when fighting broke out in 2014. Some of the children chosen to attend the camp come from low-income families, according to the National Guard press office. National Guardsman Oleksander Honcharenko gave the children instruction in hand-to-hand fighting and karate. He told The Associated Press he and all the other instructors at the camp had served in the Ukrainian army during the conflict in East Ukraine. "I think every person has to be able to defend himself and his relatives, his nearest and dearest, his family and property. The most important thing is to be able to react quickly in an extreme situation and to make the right decision. The kind of the hand-to-hand fighting that we teach helps them develop such abilities," said Honcharenko, who is vice president of the Ukrainian Karate Association. Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko recently vowed to increase troop numbers to fend off attacks by Russia-backed separatist rebels and warned his countrymen that there is still the threat of a "large-scale invasion." He claimed that Russia had massed about 50,000 troops on the border with Ukraine, still had 9,000 soldiers in eastern Ukraine and had supplied the rebels with about 500 tanks and 400 pieces of artillery. http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/...o-military-camp This post has been edited by BorneoAlliance: Sep 1 2015, 11:41 AM |
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Sep 1 2015, 11:39 AM
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http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-right...ot-t-1587492909
even the canucks persoal their choice for f35, and outlines y superbug should be their fighter of choice. kinda agree with them with regards to pricing, weapons suite, avionics etc. y not kalau cheaper by 40 mil / unit compared to rafale, 50 mil / unit compared to f35... |
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Sep 1 2015, 11:49 AM
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Russian jets in Syrian skies ![]() QUOTE Russian fighter pilots are expected to begin arriving in Syria in the coming days, and will fly their Russian air force fighter jets and attack helicopters against ISIS and rebel-aligned targets within the failing state. According to Western diplomats, a Russian expeditionary force has already arrived in Syria and set up camp in an Assad-controlled airbase. The base is said to be in area surrounding Damascus, and will serve, for all intents and purposes, as a Russian forward operating base. In the coming weeks thousands of Russian military personnel are set to touch down in Syria, including advisors, instructors, logistics personnel, technical personnel, members of the aerial protection division, and the pilots who will operate the aircraft. Past reports have stated that the Russians were in talks to sell the Syrians a package of MiG-29 fighter jets, and Yak-130 trainer jets (which can also serve as attack aircraft.) The current makeup of the expeditionary force is still unknown, but there is no doubt that Russian pilots flying combat missions in Syrian skies will definitely change the existing dynamics in the Middle East. The Russians do not harbor offensive intentions towards Israel or other sovereign states in the area, and their main stated goal is battling ISIS and preserving Assad's rule. However, their presence will represent a challenge to the Israeli Air Force's freedom of operation in the skies above the Middle East. Western diplomatic sources recently reported that a series of negotiations had been held between the Russians and the Iranians, mainly focusing on ISIS and the threat it poses to the Assad regime. The infamous Iranian Quds Force commander Major General Qasem Soleimani recently visited Moscow in the framework of these talks. As a result the Russians and the Iranians reached a strategic decision: Make any effort necessary to preserve Assad's seat of power, so that Syria may act as a barrier, and prevent the spread of ISIS and Islamist backed militias into the former Soviet Islamic republics. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4696268,00.html |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:44 PM
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hopefully will have some good news. anyway still in talk only.
@PMesnier French Mindef visiting RMAF in Subang. Another partnership anchored. Tks RMAF for the warm welcome ![]() Pierre Mesnier @PMesnier 2h2 hours ago Mr Le Drian is witnessing a strong Malaysian French Cooperation on A400M. A real success ![]() ![]() Pierre Mesnier @PMesnier 1h1 hour ago Mr Le Drian accompanied by Mr Raffarin former French PM meeting with Malaysian PM for strategic talks。 ![]() ![]() |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 1 2015, 12:44 PM) hopefully will have some good news. anyway still in talk only. if cant get rafale or mistral, get some cougar and tiger also fine .@PMesnier French Mindef visiting RMAF in Subang. Another partnership anchored. Tks RMAF for the warm welcome ![]() Pierre Mesnier @PMesnier 2h2 hours ago Mr Le Drian is witnessing a strong Malaysian French Cooperation on A400M. A real success ![]() ![]() Pierre Mesnier @PMesnier 1h1 hour ago Mr Le Drian accompanied by Mr Raffarin former French PM meeting with Malaysian PM for strategic talks。 ![]() ![]() |
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Sep 1 2015, 04:00 PM
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Mistral... tak ada harapan lah
Nothing signed also |
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Sep 1 2015, 06:26 PM
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French Defense Chief Attempts to Sell at Least One Mistral to Malaysia ![]() On Tuesday, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak held a meeting with Le Drian and French defense industry officials. According to Bernama, Le Drian and his Malaysian counterpart Hishammuddin Hussein will head a Franco-Malaysian defense committee. Earlier, the French newspaper Tribune reported that Malaysia had expressed interest for the purchase of a Mistral-class helicopter-carrier within 10 years. Among other contenders is India which Le Drian to visit at the end of his Asian journey. In early-August, Moscow and Paris agreed on the cancellation of a €1.2 billion contract on the delivery of two Mistral-class ships. After the Russian equipment is dismantled from the carriers France will be able to take charge of the ships. On August 26, the administration of French President Francois Hollande announced that France paid off compensation to Russia. The sum of the compensation will be made public after a bill on the issue is submitted to the French parliament. http://sputniknews.com/military/20150901/1...stral-deal.html |
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Sep 1 2015, 06:33 PM
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impossibru la for them to buy Mistral
the timing is just not right.. but deep inside i hope somehow we could acquire it and a Marine force can finally be created.. |
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Sep 1 2015, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Sep 1 2015, 06:33 PM) impossibru la for them to buy Mistral Park one in Sabah, equip it with quick response teams + attack & transport helis = Sabah pipu love Najib looooong timethe timing is just not right.. but deep inside i hope somehow we could acquire it and a Marine force can finally be created.. And, uh. Don't we already have a marine force? Or? |
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Sep 1 2015, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE Malaysia says reviewing French proposal for Rafale fighter jets Published: 1 September 2015 6:34 PM | Updated: 1 September 2015 6:37 PM ![]() Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein says it is too soon to comment on a proposal from France to buy Rafale fighter jets. – The Malaysian Insider file pic, September 1, 2015. Malaysia is reviewing a proposal from France to buy Rafale fighter jets but any decision would depend on how affordable the aircraft are, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said today. Malaysia, which wants to replace its fleet of Russian MiG-29 fighters, is said to be looking at the Rafale, Boeing's F/A-18, Swedish firm Saab's Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon. French manufacturer Dassault Aviation, which builds the Rafale, is said to be in talks with Malaysia to supply 16 of the multi-role combat jets. "It's too soon to announce anything about it," Hishammuddin told a joint news conference with French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian in the Malaysian capital. "It's part and parcel of the industry and it's a proposal we look at and I have been very transparent with the Malaysian public that it's a question of affordability," he added, when asked about Malaysia's interest in the fighter jet. A Malaysian decision had been expected this year, but aviation industry executives have warned that fiscal troubles stemming from lower prices for oil and commodities could lead to delays in placing the order. Hishammuddin also said he had no discussions today with his French counterpart on the procurement of Mistral helicopter carriers, which the French are trying to sell. France last year suspended the sale of two Mistral warships to Russia, after coming under pressure from its Western allies over Russia's role in the Ukraine crisis. President Francois Hollande has said there were a number of potential buyers for the carriers. Countries said to be interested in the helicopter carrier included Malaysia, Brazil, Singapore, Canada and Egypt. – Reuters, September 1, 2015. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...h.73Q9Iw2o.dpuf |
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Sep 1 2015, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 1 2015, 06:54 PM) if "review" only then we have been "reviewing" it for many years ady lol |
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Sep 1 2015, 07:03 PM
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I cant remember where I read this, about the deep comparison between rafale & typhoon.....
Payloads - rafale win Maritime/ ground attack - rafale win Air to air - typhoon 2in Beyond visual/ detection capability - typhoon win |
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Sep 1 2015, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 1 2015, 07:03 PM) I cant remember where I read this, about the deep comparison between rafale & typhoon..... So, uh, 50/50? Are there any other capable platforms that our Airforce can use?Payloads - rafale win Maritime/ ground attack - rafale win Air to air - typhoon 2in Beyond visual/ detection capability - typhoon win |
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Sep 1 2015, 07:06 PM
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It will be very expensive to service the Mistral too.
Unless you have arab donors. |
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Sep 1 2015, 08:19 PM
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Russia's Most Anachronistic Warship Is Getting an Overhaul ![]() QUOTE The flagship of Russia's Northern Fleet, the Pyotr Veliky (Peter the Great) battle cruiser, is on its way into a Murmansk shipyard for renovations as part of a larger program to keep the massive vessel serving for several decades. The ship, which is one of Russia's two surviving Kirov-class battle cruisers, will be put into a dry-dock at the 82nd repair plant in the near future, after dock workers have prepared the site to receive the massive warship, Northern Fleet spokesman Vadim Serga told the RIA Novosti news agency on Monday. The Pyotr Veliky's pitstop in Murmansk is part of an effort to keep the Northern Fleet flagship, which was launched in 1989, sailing until 2018, when the Sevmash shipyards in Severodvinsk have space to begin an extensive modernization of the ship. This is the preferred option to building new large surface warships, said Maxim Shepovalenko, a retired Russian navy officer, now an expert at the Center for the Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, a Moscow-based defense industry think tank. Russia is currently pursuing a three-step naval rearmament program, focusing on building new nuclear submarines in the first phase, and new corvettes and frigates in the second phase. The third phase, generally slated to take place in the late 2020s, focuses on larger destroyers and cruisers. “There is nothing better to both counter a [U.S. carrier battle group] force and project power onto an Islamic State-type rogue nation for the foreseeable future,” Shepovalenko said. “In the case of the Pyotr Veliky, we have a nuclear-powered ship with theoretically unlimited endurance [that is] a sort of versatile arsenal, stuffed with a full range of guided missiles — including up to 80 cruise missiles and 216 surface-to-air missiles,” he said. http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/art...aul/529158.html |
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Sep 1 2015, 09:41 PM
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Sep 1 2015, 09:53 PM
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any big acquisition will be political suicide... i guess it is to keep the military happy to prevent a coup
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Sep 1 2015, 10:04 PM
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![]() ![]() RSS Resilience successfully disrupted a sea robbery in the Singapore Strait this morning. At 9.07am, a Malaysian-flagged tugboat, Permata 1, reported sighting four perpetrators boarding their barge when transiting along East Singapore Strait. Our patrol vessel RSS Resilience was immediately deployed to the vicinity and the presence of our ship forced the perpetrators to flee southerly towards Indonesian waters. At the same time, our Information Fusion Centre (IFC) shared information of the incident with the Indonesian Navy and the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency, which led to the successful capture of the perpetrators and recovery of the stolen cargo. RSS Resilience accompanied Permata 1 safely to Singapore waters where the Police Coast Guard boarded the tugboat for investigation. Bravo Zulu to the men and women of RSS Resilience and the prompt actions by IFC! ![]() ![]() |
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