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post Dec 10 2007, 11:57 AM

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hi all.

i hv a cousin in SG and according to him, the diploma i get in M'sia (diploma in computer science) will be of no use in SG because they will not recognize it.

they will only recognize SG certs. is this true? if i plan to go SG to work, do i have to re-do my studies there?

any IT person have any thought on this?
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post Dec 10 2007, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ Dec 10 2007, 11:27 AM)
For the hp package.
If your job is not the type will keep receive the incoming call and you plan to call out a lot. Singtel prepaid is the most worth package to use if u using Hot 100 even compare with postpaid.

You pay SGD28 only for Hot 100( normally I pay SGD24.5 or SGD25) and you get SGD72 dollar for local charges and SGD28 for IDD international call.
The calling rates also cheaper than postpaid if most of your call is after 8pm because it only charges 8cent per minutes compare 16cent per minutes on postpaid line.
If you make call on day time before 8pm, the rate is same with postpaid which is 16cents.

so imagine SGD72 can call for how long? My gf call me using this package and normally the SGD25 can last for 1 month or more with  average she call me 30 mins per night.
My postpaid SGd30 with free IDD only come with 80 minutes free call and 500 sms and free incoming call.

Dun forget about the SGD28 IDD international call as well. Just add 019 to any international number you want and u will call it using local rate which is 8cents per minutes after 8pm( b4 8pm is 16cents or more). So u can keep contact with your family in msia quite often. The weekend rate for this package is 8cents for whole days as wel.

However, this Hot 100 value need to be top up every 50 days, if not your value inside will be deleted.Normal prepaid in singapore has life span 6 months compare maxis 30 days with top up of SGD10 dollar.

Another benefit of postpaid is you get free caller id display, postpaid normally give u free callerID on first 3 months but charge u SGD5 after that.

lol, i seems help singtel promote their hot 100.


Added on December 10, 2007, 11:52 am
cktwai, so we need open maybank account in singapore to let us use the sg maybank2u?Currently I am using remittance services and everytime they charge SGD10, if got other method which can save money I will like to know. Last time I ask singapore maybank on the remittance and service fee they charge is SGD30, so need to know more about the method you use. Thanks.
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Jimmy,

I dont quite get what u mean by this sentence -

You pay SGD28 only for Hot 100( normally I pay SGD24.5 or SGD25) and you get SGD72 dollar for local charges and SGD28 for IDD international call.

Btw, I check with Maybank in Msia, and the person advised to just use their ATM machine and the money will convert using the prevailing exch rate. No fees imposed.
Try and see if it works or not and then please let me know.

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post Dec 10 2007, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 10 2007, 12:26 PM)
Jimmy,

I dont quite get what u mean by this sentence -

You pay SGD28 only for Hot 100( normally I pay SGD24.5 or SGD25) and you get SGD72 dollar for local charges and SGD28 for IDD international call.

Btw, I check with Maybank in Msia, and the person advised to just use their ATM machine and the money will convert using the prevailing exch rate. No fees imposed.
Try and see if it works or not and then please let me know.

Regards
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Hi darren,
you pay SGD28 ( suggest price ) for HOT 100 top up card which contain the value of SGD72 for local call/sms and SGD28 value for IDD, international call/sms. So total is SGD100 worth value, thats y it call HOT 100. Sounds unbelievable right?

http://home.singtel.com/upload_hub/consume...onus_nov07.html

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post Dec 10 2007, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ Dec 10 2007, 01:18 PM)
Hi darren,
  you pay SGD28 ( suggest price ) for HOT 100 top up card which contain the value of SGD72 for local call/sms and SGD28 value for IDD, international call/sms. So total is SGD100 worth value, thats y it call HOT 100. Sounds unbelievable right?

http://home.singtel.com/upload_hub/consume...onus_nov07.html
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yes, that seems good.
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post Dec 10 2007, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(cktwai @ Dec 9 2007, 08:30 AM)
bbmars... i remember for the StarHub prepaid plan for free incoming calls charges a minimal fee each day right ? 59 cents or something like that...

bbmars.. are you in SG ? Wanna meet up with washa and myself after christmas ?
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Friend, I am in SG because I am a Singaporean here lah.... think some of you mistaken me as malaysian... just that I half my relatives are malaysians, some in PJ, JB, Batu Pahat, Muar, Yong Ping and even Pahang.. not sure where.. long time never contact. With regard to meeting up, I am not certain at all because I have to help my wife and also due to the nature of my work right now. Its in a tight situation and rush to a certain extend.. I am also in a dilemma because I have to clear my leave and yet have to complete last minute tasks assigned... its kind of important.. but ..sian .. want to avoid burning my leave going back to work

I am going to KL on 14 - 19 Dec for short trip. Anyone out there care to tell me what's the whether like over there and also about the rally demonstration, any more coming, my family members are kind of worried... don't want to be caught like ang mo... who complained about the last rally, where hotel staff didn't even warn them about what is going on...



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post Dec 11 2007, 08:25 AM

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About CPF contribution, does non-PR need to contribute ? Actually if contribute I feel better because the employer contribute too - so your remuneration/benefit is more, right?

WASHABUSHI/Jimmy - does your employer deduct CPF contribution? What about Socso? Mind if share normally how many % of your salary constitute the variable portion (I'm not talking abt the 13th month)?



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post Dec 11 2007, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 11 2007, 08:25 AM)
About CPF contribution, does non-PR need to contribute ? Actually if contribute I feel better because the employer contribute too - so your remuneration/benefit is more, right?

WASHABUSHI/Jimmy - does your employer deduct CPF contribution? What about Socso? Mind if share normally how many % of your salary constitute the variable portion (I'm not talking abt the 13th month)?
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Non PR does not contribute CPF. I think you can ask your employer say you want to contribute even not PR but not sure the employer will contribute their part or not.

I do not have CPF contribution. I have no sosco deduct from salaryas well, so the pay you receive is the net pay.

What variable portion? Not really get what you mean.

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post Dec 11 2007, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(bbmars @ Dec 10 2007, 11:32 PM)
Friend, I am in SG because I am a Singaporean here lah.... think some of you mistaken me as malaysian... just that I half my relatives are malaysians, some in PJ, JB, Batu Pahat, Muar, Yong Ping and even Pahang.. not sure where.. long time never contact. With regard to meeting up, I am not certain at all because I have to help my wife and also due to the nature of my work right now.  Its in a tight situation and rush to a certain extend.. I am also in a dilemma because I have to clear my leave and yet have to complete last minute tasks assigned... its kind of important.. but ..sian .. want to avoid burning my leave going back to work

I am going to KL on 14 - 19 Dec for short trip.  Anyone out there care to tell me what's the whether like over there and also about the rally demonstration, any more coming, my family members are kind of worried... don't want to be caught like ang mo... who complained about the last rally, where hotel staff didn't even warn them about what is going on...
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don't think there's anymore coming up during that period... not that i'm aware of anyways...

hey if you need any help in KL can let me know smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2007, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 11 2007, 08:25 AM)
About CPF contribution, does non-PR need to contribute ? Actually if contribute I feel better because the employer contribute too - so your remuneration/benefit is more, right?

WASHABUSHI/Jimmy - does your employer deduct CPF contribution? What about Socso? Mind if share normally how many % of your salary constitute the variable portion (I'm not talking abt the 13th month)?
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If you are a non-PR, you don't have to contribute. Previously, whoever has work permit in Singapore is required to contribute CPF as well as his employer. Some companies have arrangement that even if you are not a PR/Singaporean, you will still get the portion of your employer CPF contribution (which is 14.5%) and yet you don't have to contribute to CPF. Thus, you get additional 'allowance' + your existing salaries. But still this will be considered your income and will be liable to income tax. Whereas the portion contributed by your employer to CPF is exempt from income tax. Just FYI.
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post Dec 11 2007, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ Dec 11 2007, 09:05 AM)
Non PR does not contribute CPF. I think you can ask your employer say you want to contribute even not PR but not sure the employer will contribute their part or not.

I do not have CPF contribution. I have no sosco deduct from salaryas well, so the pay you receive is the net pay.

What variable portion? Not really get what you mean.
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bbmars or anyone else, can you pls explain what is this AVC again? Can it be taken away even though company not making losses?



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post Dec 11 2007, 12:06 PM

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I might plan to resign my current job and head to singapore to work, I am more in IT line basically java. Here things getting expensive and worst next year with salary still same, buying power tak cukup. Dudes, do you have any hints which recruitment agent is good and which recruitment agent no good which should be aware during looking for job? As I know, normally first step go through recruitment agent which I really don't like but no choice, is there any MNC company recommended? Problems too when getting a room to live. Need help from you dudes. Thanks.
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post Dec 11 2007, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 11 2007, 10:31 AM)
bbmars or anyone else, can you pls explain what is this AVC again?  Can it be taken away even though company not making losses?
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Sorry Jimmy, I meant Monthly Variable Component of your salary. What's your percentage?
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post Dec 11 2007, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(cktwai @ Dec 11 2007, 09:40 AM)
don't think there's anymore coming up during that period... not that i'm aware of anyways... 

hey if you need any help in KL can let me know smile.gif
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Thank U.... friend


Added on December 11, 2007, 5:52 pm
QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 11 2007, 02:26 PM)
Sorry Jimmy, I meant Monthly Variable Component of your salary. What's your percentage?
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Month variable component ? Not all companies following this practice, especially the smaller firms. This was started by SG Gov and all Gov sector practice this. During the last recession where many companies gone busted and some retrenched workers, some pay cut... which brought up alot of unhappiness among workers and thus affected their morale. So the Gov decision was to introduce teh variable component where by it certain % of your salary besides the fixed income will various according to how the company perform, during good times pay will be as usual. However, during bad times, this variable component will the part of your salary that may be trimed to lower amount. In this way, it becomes flexible and workers in the scheme are aware and won't feel the pinch and employer can declare when economy is bad. Its more pyschological, mind game and companies adjsut accordingly rather than 1st thing, think of retrenching workers or PAY CUT, which is a bad name itself.

If you are new to the company which embraces this practice, you would hardly feel the crunch as you are already been told when you join. Its the those existing staff will face the pressure switching from old to new switch, of course with adjustment before switching over. Of course, not forgetting, the extra bonuses pay out during good times. I am not sure how many private companies practices this. But Gov related companies usually do.. like PSA, workers took quite a hefty cut and then last few years, due to good economy, they got something like 6-9 months bonuses pay back for standing along with the management, rather than choose retrenchement, which left them with no job and worse, like not able or even harder to find a job especially for older/elder workers, which is not a good solution..

Just some of the problems faced in the last recession, therefore, this variable component is something being look upon even by the west and EU... but... again.. I think only SG can implement such thing successfully.

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post Dec 11 2007, 06:15 PM

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Does Singaporean companies generally pay Handphone allowance, petrol and toll allowances, etc etc? And what about the benefits cover the family as well or not?

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my savings in singapore is equal or more than my salary when i was working in malaysia (after convertion)
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QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 11 2007, 06:15 PM)
Does Singaporean companies generally pay Handphone allowance, petrol and toll allowances, etc etc? And what about the benefits cover the family as well or not?
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Sorry, I am afriad that's kind of thing belongs to the Bristish system and not longer in practice. Except if you are on special hire, that could be inclusive... whatever perks you are entitled. if not, ordinary jobs... don't have. Gov jobs offers some form of beneift for family members.. Even then, its limited with condition, e.g

1 entitled to 2 days Child leave - children below 7 yrs old
2. medical allowance of $300 max/yr, each time medical claim is public clinic 40% of charges, prive clinic max $10
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3. 14 - 21 days leave depending on entry level, and some extra 7 days after 10 yrs
4. holiday claim $200/yr max, per claim $40/N .etc.....

Again many companies practices different things and liek if you are from Foriegn bank.. WOW!!!benefit could be like what you say... I am not joking.
I know my colleague's wife can claim full medical on his behlaf from her company.
Things like $2K PC allowance - anything related to PC..
Year end bonus - can be up to 1 yr.. depending
company organised tour - fully paid...etc.. including family...

BUt such opportunites are rare nowadays, mainly for Senior staff like manangement or as alkready part of package negotiated..
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post Dec 12 2007, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(shawnlst @ Dec 10 2007, 10:33 AM)
Whether or not if you are a PR, you will still need to declare if your annual income exceeds S$20,000. And if you have chargeable income (net income after deducting reliefs), you will need to pay taxes, depending on your TAX RESIDENT status. if stay/work in Singapore >182 days (or 183 days?... approx. 6 months) per calender year, you are considered a tax resident and subject to tax scale rate. if <182 days but > 60 days, you will be taxed at 15% flat rate as you are considered as non-tax resident. if < 60 days, your income will be exempt from tax.

Cheapest manner? Go to money exchanger in Singapore (don't go to bank as they offer much lower exchange rate if compare to licensed money exchanger) and then go back to JB and bank-in to your M'sia bank a/c. Then, you don't have to incur any bank charges and receive lower conversion rate. Note that there is a risk of being robbed. If you think, it is not worth the risk, perhaps you go ahead with cktwai's suggestions.

FYI, money exchanger in raffles place (can't remember the name), bugis junction, mustafa at farrer park offer higher exchange rate than other money exchangers.
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I believe that is what they call a LEVY rite? Work after certain period of time you will need to be charge for certain amount of percentage. But as i heard is only going to be commence on years 2009 (from a company in spore) Still the tax is not incurred towards amount of annual income but the number of working days in Spore itself.


Added on December 12, 2007, 6:20 pm
QUOTE(shawnlst @ Dec 11 2007, 09:51 AM)
If you are a non-PR, you don't have to contribute. Previously, whoever has work permit in Singapore is required to contribute CPF as well as his employer. Some companies have arrangement that even if you are not a PR/Singaporean, you will still get the portion of your employer CPF contribution (which is 14.5%) and yet you don't have to contribute to CPF. Thus, you get additional 'allowance' + your existing salaries. But still this will be considered your income and will be liable to income tax. Whereas the portion contributed by your employer to CPF is exempt from income tax. Just FYI.
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CPF is not applicable for Non-PR or Non-Citizen of Singapore.. So there is no need for us to worry fot that.

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QUOTE(Gamerz_Paradise @ Dec 12 2007, 06:19 PM)
CPF is not applicable for Non-PR or Non-Citizen of Singapore.. So there is no need for us to worry fot that.
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worry? One angle of looking at it is that the non-PRs are losing out money from the employer contribution.

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ Dec 12 2007, 09:40 PM)
worry? One angle of looking at it is that the non-PRs are losing out money from the employer contribution.
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yea i understand. but is the same as bangla which work in malaysia la.. they also lose the contribution also..wat i mean in worry is there is no procedure or wat so ever.. Let say if we got CPF now. but we need to retired only can take back those CPF. so after minus off all the CPF still we 2-3yrs back to malaysia due to contract expired then we lose even more.. rite?
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QUOTE(Gamerz_Paradise @ Dec 12 2007, 10:49 PM)
yea i understand. but is the same as bangla which work in malaysia la.. they also lose the contribution also..wat i mean in worry is there is no procedure or wat so ever.. Let say if we got CPF now. but we need to retired only can take back those CPF. so after minus off all the CPF still we 2-3yrs back to malaysia due to contract expired then we lose even more.. rite?
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ok, understd what you're getting at. But let's find out from bbmars or anyone how is the return like for CPF ? How many % are the contributors getting annually? If it is huge, then leaving it at Sgp till our retirement, may be alright too. It depends.

So, does anyone know how much returns for CPF in the past?

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