Actually not true, there is no fixed pay to whatever jobs. Just that an industry standard, people will pay for different workers... highly qualified people, higer pay that's all. Of course, if there is so call general pay for certain types of certification, like diploma holders, U, ITE graduates, etc.. there is some kind of minimum wage to that. E.g. starting pay for Engineering degree ~2.8K as reported. Diploma holder, not sure about other course, engineering ~1.8K range starting pay. ITE ~1.5-1.6k depending. Some good ones, get even much higher but depends on your ability as I read from press, SMU graduate got even higher pay.. 3k+ as starting salary. However, much will still depends.

This post has been edited by bbmars: Jul 30 2008, 10:54 PM

Press reported that SMU survey of its graduates showed that a high percentage got more than 3K, with the highest few tipping 10K.

I wonder who'd be insane enough to pay 10K for a fresh grad from a local U?...

I mean if that chap is so damn good that you, as an employer, would feel irresistibly compelled to hand him 10K a month, even though he has never done a day of work in his life and is totally unproven - logic dictates that such an overwhelmingly superior individual would have been scouted & spotted long ago, and given a scholarship to Oxbridge, Ivy League, MIT or Stanford during his high school, JC or undergrad days. How come he was stuck, virtually unnoticed & ignored at a backwater uni like SMU, for years until some employer suddenly discovers this, unpolished diamond of a talent?

You guys blow the bubble so big!!! Common... be realistic... For new grads in SG will get around 1.5-2.5k on average and max out around 3k SGD.

10k SGD are like a senior manager role.

I don't really believe is a fresh grad can command a 10K SGD. Unless he/she is a genius in that particular industry.

Hi guys,
I would like to ask those who have been working in singapore ..how is the life experience? Other than earning more money.. do u enjoy the experience being thr? Most ppl go thr but in the end still go back to their home town rite? Im still young so kinda contemplating if its worth it to go thr and gain experience n exposure.. kinda like goin to a new place for an adventure
Or, just stay back here and try to build up a business or somethng

There's currently 118 pages of experience in this thread alone for you to explore, and judge for yourself. The answers lie within.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jul 31 2008, 08:40 AM

well some1's poison might be another's medicine, I saw n heard a lot of people enjoy it here, and at the same time a lot other people say its hell hole here as well. so its really up to u i would say. if u willing to try, why not ?

as for me, i'm fine with life here, juz that my job now sux.

OK I actually just finish reading all of them since last week

first you may want to see what they define as SMU "graduates"...

SMU has a lot of post grad courses.. mostly taken by people with working experience...

I believe that report is quite accurate

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Added on July 31, 2008, 9:11 amNice answer! hahaha


This post has been edited by cktwai: Jul 31 2008, 09:11 AM

re-read again..hehe
my frenz just went to SG work last week...heard frm fren dat she n de bf working as officer over ther..stil didnt receive any update bout she..
i'm hope dat she doin fine over there as she and de bf always complain malaysia can't find money..hehe

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i've wrote a program to check the usage daily and write to a log ...
but i found out that their system doesnt update our usage on regular basis , some times their update at 6am , some times at 11pm ....

Fair enough, the primary point being 'with working experience'.

If those people were earning like 9K before they graduated, and they get 10K after graduation, I can accept that. That's realistic enough.

But the way the media presented the survey, there was nothing to suggest that those SMU graduates might not have been newly employed fresh graduates. In fact the press compared those numbers to the 'starting or entry level' salaries of various industries in Singapore.

im sure sporean are mutliracial and not racists... BUT they DO TREAT MSIAN POORLY... I remember once whn i was thr ... i was talkin to a bunch of sporean.. n after while i told them im msian.. They were like HUH??? Wow never knw msian can speak english !!

WTF !!! i was really offended !!
plus since most msian go work thr are with SPM results.. they really look at us as a cheap labour....even though we are graduates...

so if u r planning to work thr... i advise work thr after getting work experience from here...

living cost are expensive.. 4 years back coke cost SGD 0.80 ..whn msian coke cost like Rm1.20... just an example..

my frens who r staying thr are paying rent of SGD300-400 per month..for A ROOM... so if u get a job thr.. just ensure it is at least SGD2000... or its not worth working thr ...

Hmmm... I seem to always have a different experience. Most of the Singaporeans I work with are quite used to taking orders from Malaysians... hehe. And the Singaporeans I meet socially, most of them are quite okay. Not much different from meeting someone from Malaysia. There are some good, some bad - obviously.

Aiyo, how many times do we have to explain that this is only half the story?

The other half of the story, that folks like you always conveniently forget, is that if you earn RM1000 in KL, you'll most probably earn S$1000 in SG. Tell me, who is more well off? The chap who earns RM1000 paying RM1.20 for a coke (0.12% of salary) or the chap who earns S$1000 paying S$0.80 (0.08%)? In actual fact, 0.12% is 50% higher than 0.08%. So according to your coke example, the real cost of living in Malaysia is 50% higher than Singapore.

How much do you pay for a room in KL? When I was studying in Taylors College more than 10 years ago, I paid RM500/month for a BACK ROOM in SS15. My classmate paid RM250/month for the damn storeroom under the stairs.

Secondly, how much savings from your RM salary do you have at the end of the month?

How much S$ savings do your friends in Singapore have at the end of the month?

If after 10 years, your friends bring their S$ savings back to Malaysia, how much RM will they have in the bank? Comparatively, how much RM will you have in your bank account?

10k was te survey done by nst on fresh grads a few months back i think they mentions most of them we getting 3k n above only a few were getting 10k those i think they r working as financial analyst, broker and so on. a fresh grad lawyer iirc is getting 8k there was an articel about tat the company benifits include laundry cool huh. haha i wish my comp also hav tat

well in kl u stay at taylors yeah its an area where ppl cut ur throat cos they consider u as a "rich" student studyin in a private college. same as any other private college areas. u can opt to stay further (provided u hav the transport) at a cheaper price. in sg theres no suchthing as stay further n cheaper price whole island is more o less the same price of a single room a unit or watsoever.

savings will depend on the will power u have. some ppl jus spend it all away the power of the sgd is big able to get many luxury items at prices where it wont really burn a hole in ur pocket. simple example if u r earning sgd 2000 and msia rm 2000 sales period a pair of levis jeans 80-110 sgd in msia min u'll pay 200 for a pair u do the math

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Added on July 31, 2008, 2:51 pmas for sg treating msians poorly havent come across that some of them r a bit snobbish but so far havent meet any bad xp wif them

This post has been edited by nicvoo: Jul 31 2008, 02:51 PM

In KL, you rent a room further from town, but you have to buy a car or a bike. If you tally it all up, isn't the 'cost of accomodation' in KL the sum of both rental, car instalment and petrol?

See... that's the trouble of drawing a conclusion about something as complex as 'cost of living' from a couple of isolated anecdotal examples like the rental for a room and a can of coke.

Again, why complicate the comparison by bringing in something subjective like 'will power'?

Assume the same willpower, same person, same lifestyle, same everything. What would YOU have saved in Sg vs what would YOU have earned in KL over the same period?

At the end of the day, isn't that the question everyone who wants to work overseas, need to ask themselves?

by saying transport it can be public or jus a simple bicycle which doesnt cost much where in the end is still lower then staying next to the college jus more hassle

by saying will power in sg its more tempting to spend where as in msia te sight of a rm200 jeans will make u think 2 - 3 times and end up not buying in sg only sgd 80 ma n buy without a 2nd thought

If public transport and a bicycle are realistic options, then Malaysia would not have one the largest car populations per capita outside the OECD.

But there's a fallacy to your argument. You are implying that just because someone in Malaysia has 2nd thoughts about buying RM200 jeans, they will not buy any jeans at all. But this is the wrong assumption to make. The consistent assumption would be that he buys a RM80 pair of jeans.

So, again... who saves more? The person who earn RM1000 and buys a RM80 pair of jeans, or someone who earns S$1000 and buys a S$80 pair of jeans?

Hey,

I'm trying to look for a room near Jurong East, prior my work start in next two weeks. I don't mind Jurong West (but don't too far).

I'm not trying to advertise. Just that, I fear I couldn't find a reasonable price room in 1 week time as I need to go back my hometown for the another week. If anyone here living near Jurong East and wouldn't mind to a roommate for a temporary basis (not more than 1 month), please let me know. Definitely, I would pay for the rent + utilities.

hehe
can rm80 get a levis?