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post Apr 16 2015, 12:06 PM, updated 11y ago

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Full name Liverpool Football Club
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:08 PM

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pertamax !! YNWA
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:17 PM

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checking in.

more discussion on the team/football rather than who flame who first laugh.gif

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post Apr 16 2015, 12:20 PM

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checking in.

more discussion on the team/football rather than who flame who first  laugh.gif
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i start the ball rolling

we are just 4 points behind mcity whistling.gif
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i start the ball rolling

we are just 4 points behind mcity  whistling.gif
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lol mathematically yes we can catch up but can the team catch up?

I have doubt.
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lol mathematically yes we can catch up but can the team catch up?

I have doubt.
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why not? mcity is in trouble now, their manager future is uncertain and their players are currently in bad form (especially their defences). of course it also depends on our very own form, no point if city lose and we lose as well. but right now, lets focus on beating a.villa to reach fa cup final
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 16 2015, 12:33 PM)
why not? mcity is in trouble now, their manager future is uncertain and their players are currently in bad form (especially their defences). of course it also depends on our very own form, no point if city lose and we lose as well. but right now, lets focus on beating a.villa to reach fa cup final
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We are not doing good either .

Can will be out of the fa cup game due to suspension if I am right .

So the pairing would be Lovren and Toure ? hmm.gif
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We are not doing good either .

Can will be out of the fa cup game due to suspension if I am right .

So the pairing would be Lovren and Toure ?  hmm.gif
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skrtel is back, i think he serve his last suspension, so is gerrard. as for Can, i thought he play against newscastle so he gonna start as well.
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Can we have Klopp next season? hmm.gif
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Can we have Klopp next season? hmm.gif
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u should ask, does klopp want LFC? tongue.gif
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The question of who flame who first is moot in a Malaysian context because in all honesty, we all behave the dame way.

In the context of fans in England, its clear as day that mancs trump us in terms if taking the piss. They have a wide plethora of anti - Liverpool songs which are sung even when they are playing other teams. When was the last time anyone say the Kop taking the piss out of the mancs when we weren't playing them? Nuff said.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 12:54 PM)
u should ask, does klopp want LFC? tongue.gif
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We should ask, does BR want to leave LFC/will BR leave LFC. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 12:54 PM)
u should ask, does klopp want LFC? tongue.gif
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#KloppIN #BROUT

Whether Liverpool can afford to tempt Klopp to come, that's another story.

The last 2 games at Manc and Arsenal hurts my eyes.
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like who wants to come here drive myvis when can go elsewhere drive mustangs? tongue.gif

btw, reports has said klopp resigned and wants to take a one year break...so guess its BR for another year.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 02:00 PM)
like who wants to come here drive myvis when can go elsewhere drive mustangs? tongue.gif

btw, reports has said klopp resigned and wants to take a one year break...so guess its BR for another year.
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can we report mod who abuse his power just to reply by opening a close topic? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 16 2015, 02:12 PM)
can we report mod who abuse his power just to reply by opening a close topic?  whistling.gif
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Sorry, didn't notice the topic was closed, I didn't open the topic to reply, I just hit reply button through the notification on the upper page then here goes the post even without opening the topic.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 02:00 PM)
like who wants to come here drive myvis when can go elsewhere drive mustangs? tongue.gif

btw, reports has said klopp resigned and wants to take a one year break...so guess its BR for another year.
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BR has another year to prove his doubter wrong then. tongue.gif

But the news doesn't state Klopp wants a break.
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He said that he has not stepped down in order to take a break from football, but neither has he got another job lined up.

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This is not hammering, but eager to see improvement of the team.  smile.gif

As a fan who want to see the club doing well, not satisfy with midtable and cannot afford issue, as Liv is better than midtable or what currently situation is.

CL 2005 has a lot of do with Rafa + Gerrard, which even supported my point of needing top manager and top player to carry the team to glory.

I will never tease other team whether they got trophy or not, but only look on ourself doing.
Liv has 0 league title after 1988 season, or since Arsenal sneak the title from Liv hand in the last day of the season, while Arsenal had 5 since then.

Arsenal may not have success in Europe stage, but there is something merit in term of transfer dealing and financial, which Liv should learn from.
You learn everything which is merit.  smile.gif


Since you are on and on about Arse and going further from the discussions, how amny PL/1st Div titles and CL has Liverpool won compared to Arsenal? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 16 2015, 02:23 PM)
Sorry, didn't notice the topic was closed, I didn't open the topic to reply, I just hit reply button through the notification on the upper page then here goes the post even without opening the topic.
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just kidding you should move your response to here since you have the power. Would like to see proheptjul(dunno how to spell) comment as well
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 02:00 PM)
like who wants to come here drive myvis when can go elsewhere drive mustangs? tongue.gif

btw, reports has said klopp resigned and wants to take a one year break...so guess its BR for another year.
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Winning the Champions League in 2005 proved to be a smokescreen unfortunately. In this day and age, it's been proven that the richest clubs finish in the top 3, if not the top of the table. We came close once under Rafa and once under BR. It would have been unrealistic for us to expect the team to challenge for the title every season unless we spend the way Chelsea and City have. Even Arsenal who have managed their financials well aren't challenging for the title although they have been consistently in the top 4. So the question really is, do we have the financial muscle to match the clubs above us?

If you look at the La Liga, you will get the occasional Valencia or Atletico challenging Barca and Real Madrid for the title. In the last 10 years only Atletico Madrid has beaten both teams to the title and only twice has a club other than Barca or Real finished in the top 2.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 16 2015, 03:08 PM)
Winning the Champions League in 2005 proved to be a smokescreen unfortunately. In this day and age, it's been proven that the richest clubs finish in the top 3, if not the top of the table. We came close once under Rafa and once under BR. It would have been unrealistic for us to expect the team to challenge for the title every season unless we spend the way Chelsea and City have. Even Arsenal who have managed their financials well aren't challenging for the title although they have been consistently in the top 4. So the question really is, do we have the financial muscle to match the clubs above us?

If you look at the La Liga, you will get the occasional Valencia or Atletico challenging Barca and Real Madrid for the title. In the last 10 years only Atletico Madrid has beaten both teams to the title and only twice has a club other than Barca or Real finished in the top 2.
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ayam!! terlambat pulak!! doh.gif!!! let's swap manager, send BR to citeh, Mannual to BVB and Klopp to LFC. win win win for all thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 16 2015, 02:35 PM)
just kidding you should move your response to here since you have the power. Would like to see proheptjul(dunno how to spell) comment as well
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 16 2015, 03:26 PM)
ayam!! terlambat pulak!! doh.gif!!! let's swap manager, send BR to citeh, Mannual to BVB and Klopp to LFC. win win win for all thumbup.gif
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What makes you so sure it will be a win situation for City? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 16 2015, 03:57 PM)
What makes you so sure it will be a win situation for City?  tongue.gif
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2 words, Transfer Committees

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What makes you so sure it will be a win situation for City?  tongue.gif
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mcity need someone to sack after 2 years, br fit the requirement

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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 16 2015, 04:12 PM)
mcity need someone to sack after 2 years, br fit the requirement

oh wai~
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It would be interesting to see BR in charge of Mancity.
Doubter and supporter of BR will finally see an answer.

Don't get me wrong, not advocate for BR sacking.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 16 2015, 04:23 PM)
It would be interesting to see BR in charge of Mancity.
Doubter and supporter of BR will finally see an answer.

Don't get me wrong, not advocate for BR sacking.
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with better players and oil money...sure..
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 16 2015, 04:26 PM)
with better players and oil money...sure..
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You never know, if the manager still eyeing for the like Lovren, Lallana type of players. tongue.gif

Mind that, M Hughes in charge of Mancity before and was given fair amount of money to spend upon as well.


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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 16 2015, 04:01 PM)
2 words, Transfer Committees
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That's a win for BR, but not a win for City biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 16 2015, 04:12 PM)
mcity need someone to sack after 2 years, br fit the requirement

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Oh yeah, he definitely does..might fit in at clubs like Chelsea and Real too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 16 2015, 04:32 PM)
You never know, if the manager still eyeing for the like Lovren, Lallana type of players.  tongue.gif

Mind that, M Hughes in charge of Mancity before and was given fair amount of money to spend upon as well.
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i think its pretty obvious now that last season was a fluke coz mostly due to SAS and the slip is due to sutpiak BR put Gerrard too low. If Gerrard was higher up, slip will never happen
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Did anyone see Suarez make Luiz look like a putz not once but twice this morning ?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 16 2015, 04:43 PM)
Did anyone see Suarez make Luiz look like a putz not once but twice this morning ?
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He made everyone like putz when he terrorizing BPL last year.
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Did anyone see Suarez make Luiz look like a putz not once but twice this morning ?
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Suarez made Luiz looked like Luiz. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 16 2015, 04:32 PM)
You never know, if the manager still eyeing for the like Lovren, Lallana type of players.  tongue.gif

Mind that, M Hughes in charge of Mancity before and was given fair amount of money to spend upon as well.
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how bout sanchez? doesn't BR want him? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hifzil @ Apr 16 2015, 05:07 PM)
how bout sanchez? doesn't BR want him?  hmm.gif
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BR will have him...and sell him to Barca

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BR will have him...and sell loan him to Barca
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BR will have him...and sell him to Barca
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no la, he buy him then put him on bench...wants to beat man city in having the world's most expensive bench.
got lovren, borini, balo, marko, johnson...thats already somewhere around 80m++...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 05:36 PM)
no la, he buy him then put him on bench...wants to beat man city in having the world's most expensive bench.
got lovren, borini, balo, marko, johnson...thats already somewhere around 80m++...
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u forgot abt lambert....how kudjewwwww
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lambert 4m only...rosmah spends that amt in 1 month...

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Did anyone see Suarez make Luiz look like a putz not once but twice this morning ?
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Nah, let all of you jizz once again, and....wasting ur quota. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 05:44 PM)
lambert 4m only...rosmah spends that amt in 1 month...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 05:44 PM)
lambert 4m only...rosmah spends that amt in 1 month shopping trip...
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Bring in klopp we will get Reus, Hummel.

inb4 we are screwed by bringing in bottom level club players instead of mid table club players
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...for her hair
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and singing lessons...later she sing YNWA then u know.

anyway, today is the last day for the warrior sale in lot10...still got a few of the 2012 and 2013 home away and 3rd kits there.
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and singing lessons...later she sing YNWA then u know.

anyway, today is the last day for the warrior sale in lot10...still got a few of the 2012 and 2013 home away and 3rd kits there.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 16 2015, 05:47 PM)
Nah, let all of you jizz once again, and....wasting ur quota. tongue.gif

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for years we all been wishing for our own Messi....KD spotted him n bought him in....BR came in....

work our ass off to quali in CL again.....

and then sold our Messi to another CL team.

and put team B against RM....

And lost CL spot...

And lost our Messi....

Bought lambert and Balo...

Saport la BR...

like saport Najib....no matter how much crap he give to the rakyat..
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 16 2015, 05:52 PM)
for years we all been wishing for our own Messi....KD spotted him n bought him in....BR came in....

work our ass off to quali in CL again.....

and then sold our Messi to another CL team.

and put team B against RM....

And lost CL spot...

And lost our Messi....

Bought lambert and Balo...

Saport la BR...

like saport Najib....no matter how much crap he give to the rakyat..
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In before people say BR brought the best out of Suarez, without BR, Suarez is nothing.

And then, bunch of stats and fact to support above statements. laugh.gif
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In before people say BR brought the best out of Suarez, without BR, Suarez is nothing.

And then, bunch of stats and fact to support above statements.  laugh.gif
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u mean without suarez, BR is nothing.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 05:58 PM)
u mean without suarez, BR is nothing.
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kenot be...BR City manager next season....terrer wooo
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 06:05 PM)
bristol city ah? league 1 champions k.
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So BR shooed Gerrard off already...whos next?
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laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

So BR shooed Gerrard off already...whos next?
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sterling la.
suarez already said what sterling has only implied so far in his interviews...that he wants to join a team capable of challenging for big prizes.

balo most likely going out as origi coming...and with euro 2016 coming...balo for sure wants to go somewhere where he can play more and not be part of the world's most expensive bench.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 16 2015, 06:18 PM)
sterling la.
suarez already said what sterling has only implied so far in his interviews...that he wants to join a team capable of challenging for big prizes.

balo most likely going out as origi coming...and with euro 2016 coming...balo for sure wants to go somewhere where he can play more and not be part of the world's most expensive bench.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 16 2015, 08:19 PM)
Saw that coming from you since you're pretty much a low life.

Don't worry, sharing is caring since u're must be depraved of entertainment.

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What the actual F you moron 2890 .

Having a banter once in a while it's OK, but trying to be a smarta$$ as though you know the game too damn well is another thing.

Why do you want to rile people up? You feel great is it?

There's the MUFC thread, just stick your banters there.

Or you could go back to your mobile games and Diablo.

And mod, can't you actually ban him?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 16 2015, 08:36 PM)
boy who cries wolf eh you.

Start a war and now you call the mods to back u up?

be a man dude.

i didn't step on your tail, so don't try to offend me when i did nothing to you.
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im gonna let this boy do it....see how far he can go whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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im gonna let this boy do it....see how far he can go  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Coutinhooooo!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

PFA awards: Kane, Hazard, De Gea, Coutinho on both shortlists
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32342000

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Coutinhooooo!!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

PFA awards: Kane, Hazard, De Gea, Coutinho on both shortlists
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32342000
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Good for him but to be honest he wasnt anywhere near the players that have been nominated. His stats shows it all. 4 goals 4 assist was no where the others that have been nominated except for De Gea of coz. Actually quite surprise Matic was not in the nominated list.

Expect Hazard to win the PFA awards while Kane to win the PFA Young player award.
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 17 2015, 09:33 AM)
Good for him but to be honest he wasnt anywhere near the players that have been nominated. His stats shows it all. 4 goals 4 assist was no where the others that have been nominated except for De Gea of coz. Actually quite surprise Matic was not in the nominated list.

Expect Hazard to win the PFA awards while Kane to win the PFA Young player award.
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 17 2015, 09:33 AM)
Good for him but to be honest he wasnt anywhere near the players that have been nominated. His stats shows it all. 4 goals 4 assist was no where the others that have been nominated except for De Gea of coz. Actually quite surprise Matic was not in the nominated list.

Expect Hazard to win the PFA awards while Kane to win the PFA Young player award.
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Yea, agreed that Coutinho is no where near to get into the list, but who cares, this could boost his confidence.

Kane confirm will win one of it.
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QUOTE(hifzil @ Apr 17 2015, 09:52 AM)
hmmm hajad this season i don't see any special from him. see him dribble lay down get free kick or penalty. maybe im not watching chelsea game much  hmm.gif  i think de gea could win it. but of coz i wish PC10 can win it.  laugh.gif
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The way he terrific opponents with his dribbling skills, getting fouls on the dangerous area, creating something out of nothing is why he was great in the EPL. Just this morning was watching the football talk in Astro, they were saying that he was quite near to Messi and Ronaldo without comparing the goal scoring side. He is still young so there is still time for him to be as great as them. There is a reason why he was the player that has been foul the most. Opponents sometimes has to deliberate foul him to just prevent him of getting past them as you cant seems to get the ball away from him.

12 goals 11 assist so far. If Coutinho can do that we might not be struggling on getting the top 4 position. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hifzil @ Apr 17 2015, 09:52 AM)
hmmm hajad this season i don't see any special from him. see him dribble lay down get free kick or penalty. maybe im not watching chelsea game much  hmm.gif  i think de gea could win it. but of coz i wish PC10 can win it.  laugh.gif
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I think it is very important to win penalty and free kick. That's 1 of the strength we had when we had Suarez ma, and the chances to score from freekick when we had him was so high. Oh well, glad to see him doing well.
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 17 2015, 10:10 AM)
The way he terrific opponents with his dribbling skills, getting fouls on the dangerous area, creating something out of nothing is why he was great in the EPL. Just this morning was watching the football talk in Astro, they were saying that he was quite near to Messi and Ronaldo without comparing the goal scoring side. He is still young so there is still time for him to be as great as them. There is a reason why he was the player that has been foul the most. Opponents sometimes has to deliberate foul him to just prevent him of getting past them as you cant seems to get the ball away from him.

12 goals 11 assist so far. If Coutinho can do that we might not be struggling on getting the top 4 position.  laugh.gif
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Is there any source or stats that he is the player that has been foul the most? It would be very interesting.

QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 17 2015, 10:41 AM)
I think it is very important to win penalty and free kick. That's 1 of the strength we had when we had Suarez ma, and the chances to score from freekick when we had him was so high. Oh well, glad to see him doing well.
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Agreed, just look at last season when Suarez with us. Just how many penalty and free kick won by Suarez himself. Still remembered his dribble in the opponent penalty box often resulting in handball then penalty. It is such a joy to watch him.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 17 2015, 10:57 AM)
Is there any source or stats that he is the player that has been foul the most? It would be very interesting.
Agreed, just look at last season when Suarez with us. Just how many penalty and free kick won by Suarez himself. Still remembered his dribble in the opponent penalty box often resulting in handball then penalty. It is such a joy to watch him.
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Nutmeg specifically.

Opponent defender facing this kind of attacking player, tend to become "kelam kabut" already, opening up opportunity of scoring goal as well as give free space for other to score.
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Thanks to Suarez, last season we won so many penalty till other team supporter lamenting about our team.

And gerrard score alot of goal last season via penalty.

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 17 2015, 10:57 AM)
Is there any source or stats that he is the player that has been foul the most? It would be very interesting.
Agreed, just look at last season when Suarez with us. Just how many penalty and free kick won by Suarez himself. Still remembered his dribble in the opponent penalty box often resulting in handball then penalty. It is such a joy to watch him.
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here you go

not the latest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-star-list.html

doesnt have the figure but I guess their stats wouldnt be wrong

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/tactics-and-ana...its-eden-hazard
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 17 2015, 11:17 AM)
here you go

not the latest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-star-list.html

doesnt have the figure but I guess their stats wouldnt be wrong

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/tactics-and-ana...its-eden-hazard
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lel sterling not far behind him not bad laugh.gif
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lel sterling not far behind him not bad  laugh.gif
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In terms of being fouled yet but in term of overall ability? rolleyes.gif
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In terms of being fouled yet but in term of overall ability?  rolleyes.gif
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http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/liver...million-summer/?

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Apr 17 2015, 01:07 PM)
the only good news to that article is that brad jones finally leaving.
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the only good news to that article is that brad jones finally leaving.
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granted he had 2 hat-tricks against a 2nd div team...but still... tongue.gif
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My trip to Anfield.

Liv vs. Man Utd. I shall slowly update you guys.

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He made everyone like putz when he terrorizing BPL last year.
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Good read this.

The club is looking to further cut their wage bill. Knowing that Stevie is on $150,000 a week and Sterling wants the same amount makes it seem that much more ridiculous. Sterling isn't even half the player Stevie was in his prime and he wants equal pay with a living legend.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/liver...million-summer/?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 17 2015, 02:46 PM)
Good read this.

The club is looking to further cut their wage bill. Knowing that Stevie is on $150,000 a week and Sterling wants the same amount makes it seem that much more ridiculous. Sterling isn't even half the player Stevie was in his prime and he wants equal pay with a living legend.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/liver...million-summer/?
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yeah, i posted the similar info in previous tered. That's why sterling is either stupid or super stupid to think that he is an achiever in LFC that demand that insane amount of money.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 17 2015, 02:09 PM)
Nice going buddy. Do give us an account of your experience there.
Not every defender costs $50 million though smile.gif I'm still surprised that PSG thought Luiz was worth that much.
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PSG on the way to first treble in france Ligue 1 history. So i believe his price tag justified that biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 17 2015, 02:51 PM)
PSG on the way to first treble in france Ligue 1 history. So i believe his price tag justified that biggrin.gif
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With the amount they've spent they should be. Credit to Lyon for leading billionaire clubs in PSG and Monaco. In 2013, PSG and Monaco spent $250 million. The rest of the Ligue 1 clubs spent only $40 million combined. Aside from foreign players, PSG and Monaco has also been snapping up young local French talent.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Apr 17 2015, 01:07 PM)
huh,
Lambert is reported to be 50K per week? shocking.gif
Toure at 75K per week? shocking.gif

A squad, backup, aging players are having such a wages, no wonder always "cannot afford".
So generous...
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 17 2015, 02:59 PM)
With the amount they've spent they should be. Credit to Lyon for leading billionaire clubs in PSG and Monaco. In 2013, PSG and Monaco spent $250 million. The rest of the Ligue 1 clubs spent only $40 million combined. Aside from foreign players, PSG and Monaco has also been snapping up young local French talent.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2015, 03:03 PM)
huh,
Lambert is reported to be 50K per week?  shocking.gif
Toure at 75K per week?  shocking.gif

A squad, backup, aging players are having such a wages, no wonder always "cannot afford".
So generous...
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The mighty super defender of the century Dejan Lovren take home 75k per week. laugh.gif
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The mighty super defender of the century Dejan Lovren take home 75k per week.  laugh.gif
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If it is true, squad player that not intended to be used by manager, 75K + 50K + 75K = 200K wages. doh.gif

How can Coutinho wages lower than Lovren and Toure? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2015, 05:41 PM)
If it is true, squad player that not intended to be used by manager, 75K + 50K + 75K = 200K wages.  doh.gif

How can Coutinho wages lower than Lovren and Toure?  shocking.gif
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Couth still young, he can achieve that salary range soon when it's more mature and develop more skills. It's said that LFC don't want to spoil the market buy handing big salary to young players. unlike ahem *cough*sterling*cough*
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2015, 03:03 PM)
huh,
Lambert is reported to be 50K per week?  shocking.gif
Toure at 75K per week?  shocking.gif

A squad, backup, aging players are having such a wages, no wonder always "cannot afford".
So generous...
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Toure came with zero transfer fee. Bosman ruling so generally speaking wages you are willing to pay will determine where he goes. So it's understandable to get him, you need to afford to pay above average wages.

No comment on Lambert or even Lovren. Unexplainable. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 17 2015, 05:47 PM)
Toure came with zero transfer fee. Bosman ruling so generally speaking wages you are willing to pay will determine where he goes. So it's understandable to get him, you need to afford to pay above average wages.

No comment on Lambert or even Lovren. Unexplainable.  rclxub.gif
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I can understand a player come with Bosman ruling who is mid 20's, whereby potential still can recoup transfer fee if selling the player later on,
save up transfer fee + potential transfer fee later = higher wages, ok, no argument.

But Toure is a 33 yo player approaching retirement age already.
Somemore, everyone knew Toure mostly as a backup player only, paying 75K for a backup player who is 33?

No way Coutinho newer contract less than Toure, no matter how the excuse is.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 17 2015, 03:03 PM)
huh,
Lambert is reported to be 50K per week?  shocking.gif
Toure at 75K per week?  shocking.gif

A squad, backup, aging players are having such a wages, no wonder always "cannot afford".
So generous...
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think prolly Toure was already at very high wage in Man City, he is experience enough to play for big club.. i guess most player would reluctant to wage cut to join a club, they would rather sit on bench with 200k a week tongue.gif

Lambert yea 50k kinda over paid also prolly because he was regular starter in Soton..

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 17 2015, 02:46 PM)
Good read this.

The club is looking to further cut their wage bill. Knowing that Stevie is on $150,000 a week and Sterling wants the same amount makes it seem that much more ridiculous. Sterling isn't even half the player Stevie was in his prime and he wants equal pay with a living legend.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/liver...million-summer/?
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if all works out well we could save about 770k wage, with this wage we could offer good contract. With Sterling and Hendo all looking for new offer in the summer.. and hopefully we could get some star players that makes everyone happy tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Apr 17 2015, 09:09 PM)
if all works out well we could save about 770k wage, with this wage we could offer good contract. With Sterling and Hendo all looking for new offer in the summer.. and hopefully we could get some star players that makes everyone happy tongue.gif
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If Lovren, Toure is on 70/75K, now I can understand why Sterling and Hendo reluctantly to sign a new contract.

Wages structure need to get it right, cannot be squad aging player also get the same wages with first team young promising player that actually contributing to the team.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Apr 17 2015, 10:07 PM)
think prolly Toure was already at very high wage in Man City, he is experience enough to play for big club.. i guess most player would reluctant to wage cut to join a club, they would rather sit on bench with 200k a week tongue.gif

Lambert yea 50k kinda over paid also prolly because he was regular starter in Soton..
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Pretty much that, it wouldn't surprise me if toure took a pay cut to be at Liverpool (or Liverpool is salary offer is higher (iest) that the other club(s) post man city salary) sweat.gif

He is needed for the transition (senoir amongst the youthful players). While we can boost of one of the youngest average age squad amongst the clubs, we certainly cannot completely do away with seniors. In game experience, holding pressure has been our weakest department in big games. And it's quite evident.
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Rodgers may buy himself some time if he somehow manages to win the FA cup inspite of missing on top 4.Failure on both fronts will definitely see him get the boot..
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Chelsea grind out yet another routine win against another top team. Boring? Chelsea fans wouldnt care less.

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Chelsea grind out yet another routine win against another top team. Boring? Chelsea fans wouldnt care less.

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Is the game tonight? No live on astro?
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Liverpool: Mignolet, Can, Skrtel, Lovren, Moreno, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Markovic, Coutinho, Sterling.

Subs: Jones, Johnson, Toure, Lambert, Manquillo, Borini, Balotelli.

Aston Villa: Given, Bacuna, Baker, Vlaar, Richardson, Westwood, Delph ©, Cleverley, Grealish, N’Zogbia, Benteke.

Subs: Guzan, Okore, Sinclair, Weimann, Cole, Lowton, Gil.
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Gerrard as dm n balo as striker....
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gerrard is useless as DM which exposed our defense
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rubbish performance and defending... villa playing us off the park.
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Apr 19 2015, 11:16 PM)
gerrard is useless as DM which exposed our defense
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 19 2015, 11:19 PM)
Even more useless is the guy who plays him in that position knowing that he will be liability there.
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Villa's counter attack.. Fuhh
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How many chances did we created in the 2nd half
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Cant see we win this game *sigh* poor all over the place..
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This is what we've become? This is embarrassing... The only up side is that even if we made it thru Arsenal would have eaten us alive again.
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This is what we've become? This is embarrassing... The only up side is that even if we made it thru Arsenal would have eaten us alive again.
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This is just 3 years, imagine what will we become in 5 years. Talk about TIME

This cat is draggin us down but mices still follow him blindly

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Wtf thats clearly on side!
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uhh woohoo? tim sherwood...king kenny's title winning captain at blackburn does one over BR...

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Goodbye BR?
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Win a cup like KD then kena sack
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uhh woohoo? tim sherwood...king kenny's title winning captain at blackburn does one over BR...
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BR too late to realize that the team need a change when the match is not going the way he want. Lambert in at 90mins, why so late?
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I want to remind you all that this is ASTON VILLA who sacked Lambert not long ago...and now being managed by Tim Sherwood, a young and inexperienced manager who barely knows his players.

Time to go Wodgers!
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Unless a city suffer a dramatic collapse,it looks like rodgers is on his way out.Coming to the point I think klopp isn't a good choice.

I am now opening up to the idea of having rafa back.No top manager will want to inherit this mess.
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And now i know why players are leaving... all becoz of deBoss... please sack him asap. Freaking stubborn and never learn from mistakes. I think he wants to prove the world he is right but failed again and again.

Bye2 BR. Your stature is at mid table clubs not here.
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Anyone here who thinks Wodgers is the man to take us forward needs HELP
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Was Balotelli... ONSIDE?
Seriously.
That was on-side rite?

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another note, sterling very average player..

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Apr 20 2015, 12:13 AM)
another note, sterling very average player..
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another note, sterling very average player..
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Yes. His current ability is just average but he has the potential to be a great player. However can he achieve his full potential, remain unknown but his head has grow so big that he thought he is a world class player and deserve 150k wage
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 20 2015, 12:18 AM)
50m + 1 pound. This time no smoking weed brows.gif
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welbeck sure main wing only, Sanogo as backup not good enough
Arteta dah tua, Flamini alway two leg tackle doh.gif and Coquelin very good play simple so need backup
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Apr 20 2015, 12:20 AM)
Yes. His current ability is just average but he has the potential to be a great player. However can he achieve his full potential, remain unknown but his head has grow so big that he thought he is a world class player and deserve 150k wage
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i dunno lah, see Arsenal team everyone is average salary including Giroud except Sanchez and Ozil
in arsenal, young player always 50k rates, wenger never give more than that except walcott case 100k, but he stiill play without brain doh.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Apr 20 2015, 12:03 AM)
Unless a city suffer a dramatic collapse,it looks like rodgers is on his way out.Coming to the point I think klopp isn't a good choice.

I am now opening up to the idea of having rafa back.No top manager will want to inherit this mess.
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Relax...BR didnt win a cup. How can FSG sack him?

So which midtable team manager r u choosing this time??

Got manager wanna come to Liverpool now?
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Relax...BR didnt win a cup. How can FSG sack him?

So which midtable team manager r u choosing this time??

Got manager wanna come to Liverpool now?
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QUOTE(manx @ Apr 20 2015, 12:03 AM)
And now i know why players are leaving... all becoz of deBoss... please sack him asap. Freaking stubborn and never learn from mistakes. I think he wants to prove the world he is right but failed again and again.

Bye2 BR. Your stature is at mid table clubs not here.
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Are you trying to say Pool have downgraded from mid table to something worse? One season by luck got no.2 already forgotten Pool IS a mid table team? LMAO
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 20 2015, 12:08 AM)
everdying wassap geng all join brout camp d HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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no more space already, full since last yr.
who ask them dont want join before? now become trend only want to join? pfft!
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BR out lah.... the gaffer talk so much about making a special FA whatever bla bla bla.


seriously, this guy is all talk, no action (NATO)
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not only BR hype you all, media and failed-pundit/footballer hyped you guys a little too much as well. This cock talks about football from his ass.

I present thee;

'Liverpool will win the FA Cup, Arsenal won't make PL Top4 and Sterling's better than Ozil'.

@themichaelowen, April 4, 2015.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 19 2015, 11:46 PM)
This is just 3 years, imagine what will we become in 5 years. Talk about TIME

This cat is draggin us down but mices still follow him blindly
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the team didnt even look like they wanted to win.

Villa outplayed us in all areas.

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So, what is BR achievement after his 3+ years here with us?

0 trophy. Don't tell me he finish 2nd and qualify to CL, its all went down to drain when he field Liverpool B against RM.

So basically BR "rebuilding" failed miserably. In short, this guy failed miserable, and we need to sack him before anymore damage done by him.

More than 100m spent, and all he did was bringing Liverpool goes downward.

Please la, this guy is a total joke. Ok lar, not being harsh, he's still young, and he's still new with European football. So yea, giant club like Liverpool is not a stepping stone nor a learning place for BR, he can go to another mid table club to learn all he want.
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The club seriously needs to assess the manager position.

Yesterday match totally expose the depth of the manager.
The club spent more than 100 mil over the summer to so called improved depth of squad, the reality may be the manager out of depth.

1. Tactically blunder in such an important match. Change the formation from 3 at the back to 4, after scoring the first goal, which lead to the equaliser.
Tactically outplayed by Sherwood.

2. Never learn Gerrard is not DM. Early slump in the season already highlighted the issue, yet, played Gerrard in such a role at second half when the team needed to find a goal.
In fact, starting Gerrard may be the wrong choice, the team looks like playing with 10 men in the first half.

Recent weeks, there were 3 matches that shape the entire season, against MU, Arsenal, and FA cup semi-final, all have one identical similar issue across, totally outplayed by opponent.
The bolded part is the key why the club needs to assess the manager position.
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Ok la.

Gave too many chances to BR.

Now all also don't have.

Time to sit down and eat pop corns see fans fight with fans.


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QUOTE(genjo @ Apr 20 2015, 09:23 AM)
Ok la.

Gave too many chances to BR.

Now all also don't have.

Time to sit down and eat pop corns see fans fight with fans.
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Yes. Please do share with us how Wodgers can turn this around? I couldn't help but to notice that you are one of the staunchest supporter of BR regime so u must have seen something in him that most of us here don't?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 20 2015, 08:43 AM)
The club seriously needs to assess the manager position.

Yesterday match totally expose the depth of the manager.
The club spent more than 100 mil over the summer to so called improved depth of squad, the reality may be the manager out of depth.

1. Tactically blunder in such an important match. Change the formation from 3 at the back to 4, after scoring the first goal, which lead to the equaliser.
Tactically outplayed by Sherwood.

2. Never learn Gerrard is not DM. Early slump in the season already highlighted the issue, yet, played Gerrard in such a role at second half when the team needed to find a goal.
In fact, starting Gerrard may be the wrong choice, the team looks like playing with 10 men in the first half.

Recent weeks, there were 3 matches that shape the entire season, against MU, Arsenal, and FA cup semi-final, all have one identical similar issue across, totally outplayed by opponent.
The bolded part is the key why the club needs to assess the manager position.
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I saw SG do his typical type of pin-point passing but really there was no right/left wingers in the 3/4 to send the passes to. Up front there were no strikers to send the passes to too. SG should have just played as striker and not sit behind Sterling or as DM. Sterling was pulling away defenders but it was all too easy for Villa becoz there were no strikers to mark lol.

We had a bunch of midfielders but no striker upfront at all until Balo came on.

1) Lazar Markovic
2) Joe Allen
3) Jordan Henderson
4) Alberto Moreno
5) Steven Gerrard
6) Philippe Coutinho
7) Raheem Sterling

BR out
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Balotelli put up so much threat upfront and created plenty of chances, and with 1 disallowed goal when its clearly on side. Should had let Balotelli play the full 90mins instead of letting Sterling playing as striker.

Allen, sigh..I don't know what is his role and contribution in Liverpool. Recycling ball? Distributing ball? He can do it better at other club, we don't really need it.

Moreno, his defending is awful like usual, and he's better with attacking, but past few games including yesterday, his attacking ability is decreasing too. Becoming like Johnson, sprint a while, then lack of vision and idea on what to do next, turn back and back pass. doh.gif

Lovren, duh please just sell him off and cut down the high wages lah. His last min shoot really potong stim, just fking lob the ball back into the penalty box lar. mad.gif

Lastly, I am so pissed off with BR, he fucking put Gerrard at the back again, it made Gerrard look awful, and just look at all the fans scolding Gerrard making me even more pissed off.
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i alrdy say BRout the moment they sack KD.

U take midtable manager....u play like midtable la genius anot this FSG hahahahah
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 09:47 AM)
Balotelli put up so much threat upfront and created plenty of chances, and with 1 disallowed goal when its clearly on side. Should had let Balotelli play the full 90mins instead of letting Sterling playing as striker.

Allen, sigh..I don't know what is his role and contribution in Liverpool. Recycling ball? Distributing ball? He can do it better at other club, we don't really need it.

Moreno, his defending is awful like usual, and he's better with attacking, but past few games including yesterday, his attacking ability is decreasing too. Becoming like Johnson, sprint a while, then lack of vision and idea on what to do next, turn back and back pass.  doh.gif

Lovren, duh please just sell him off and cut down the high wages lah. His last min shoot really potong stim, just fking lob the ball back into the penalty box lar.  mad.gif

Lastly, I am so pissed off with BR, he fucking put Gerrard at the back again, it made Gerrard look awful, and just look at all the fans scolding Gerrard making me even more pissed off.
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BR clueless about strikers, last year Suarez spoiled everyone in the world coz he is world class! Balo will become decent if someone has good striking strategy that can fully utilized balo's ability.

I can sum up

1) playing midget and slow midfielders that got outplay but strong and speed opponent.
2) counter attack don't work as one touch strike pass to up front often break up by defenders(as if they don't study us last year) And there are not other striking options. not a simple 1-2 to get pass defenders.
3) Defenders stability is questioning, until now we only can identified Skertel as the solid stone in the middle, his partners are often changed n switch side. Moving Can helps but not permanent, Sahko and Lovren very questionable. We lost and missed flanno for his defensive ability a lot!
4) Mig, got consitancy and confidence issue. But he overcame in the second half of the season. Hope he can keep it out.

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 09:47 AM)
Balotelli put up so much threat upfront and created plenty of chances, and with 1 disallowed goal when its clearly on side. Should had let Balotelli play the full 90mins instead of letting Sterling playing as striker.

Allen, sigh..I don't know what is his role and contribution in Liverpool. Recycling ball? Distributing ball? He can do it better at other club, we don't really need it.

Moreno, his defending is awful like usual, and he's better with attacking, but past few games including yesterday, his attacking ability is decreasing too. Becoming like Johnson, sprint a while, then lack of vision and idea on what to do next, turn back and back pass.  doh.gif

Lovren, duh please just sell him off and cut down the high wages lah. His last min shoot really potong stim, just fking lob the ball back into the penalty box lar.  mad.gif

Lastly, I am so pissed off with BR, he fucking put Gerrard at the back again, it made Gerrard look awful, and just look at all the fans scolding Gerrard making me even more pissed off.
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Gerrard was pretty anonymous from the start of the game till the end. BR shouldnt have started him in the first place.

And I still doesnt understand why he wanted to change from 3-4-3 to 4-4-2 when we just scored a goal. doh.gif A sudden change of formation just make the whole team disorientated.
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The whole midfield was disorientated since the start of the match. Nothing went right from the start. BR was rather clueless throughout the match. Didn't know what to do to get things right. The team was totally outplayed by Villa.
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Seriously, I enjoyed so much watching Villa counter attack yesterday. They put up a good game to watch, if just focusing on Liverpool, its so painful to watch.

Please just sack BR, PLEASE! I rather we rebuild again with a new manager, rather than BR rebuilding again and again on every new season.

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 11:29 AM)
Seriously, I enjoyed so much watching Villa counter attack yesterday. They put up a good game to watch, if just focusing on Liverpool, its so painful to watch.

Please just sack BR, PLEASE! I rather we rebuild again with a new manager, rather than BR rebuilding again and again on every new season.
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Plead to FSG that they will select the candidate based on credentials and successful track records in Europe ( getting a championship team to top flight isnt one) and not based on the proficiency of Queen's English in post match interviews and some dodgy holistic football dossier. We don't want any Tom Dick and Harry come in and ask to be given 3 yrs but in the end produce nothing at the end of tenure.

Why we need proven continental manager to come in that's because we need his reputation n pedigree to bring top players all over Europe. Lets face it the brand Liverpool is not enough to fish the marquee players unless you are a Brit nearing the twilight of your career like Ricky Lambert or Ashley Williams.

Not asking FSG to splash the cash this summer but if they focus the splashing on a good manager and 1-2:key quality players we can rebuild from there. I have enough faith on current crop of players including Lovren, Balo n Miggy but we are desperately seeking a general who can transform this demoralised players into beasts.

Rafa is at the top of my bingo book; his contract is expiring this season but the prob is FSG wants a yes man not a warrior type manager to balance out the books. If that doesnt go thru, we will take Klopp or De Boer...Klopp will need time to adapt in EPL but at least he has European exp with him.

Time to put the whole Brit mania behind the club.

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 11:29 AM)
Seriously, I enjoyed so much watching Villa counter attack yesterday. They put up a good game to watch, if just focusing on Liverpool, its so painful to watch.

Please just sack BR, PLEASE! I rather we rebuild again with a new manager, rather than BR rebuilding again and again on every new season.
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Choose properly la this time....Kloop almost the same style as BR it seems.

no nid to kneejerk choose
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 20 2015, 01:31 PM)
Choose properly la this time....Kloop almost the same style as BR it seems.

no nid to kneejerk choose
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but but klopp will bring in Reus and Hummel....
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 20 2015, 01:53 PM)
but but klopp will bring in Reus and Hummel....
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Aren't Klopp said that he want to rest for a year.
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 20 2015, 01:54 PM)
lol with Liverpool board? You can only afford to pay for their shoe polish
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cry.gif cry.gif that mean no Klopp lor?
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Brendan Rodgers has become the first Liverpool manager since the 1950s to go without winning silverware in his first three seasons at the club.


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Surprisingly Gerrard and Carragher are in the list of our manager replacement rolleyes.gif

Next Liverpool manager odds:

1/3 Brendan Rogers

10 Rafael Benitez

10 Jurgen Klopp

14 Frank De Boer

16 Jamie Carragher

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20 Steven Gerrard

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 01:56 PM)
Aren't Klopp said that he want to rest for a year.
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you are wrong according to this report

http://www.espnfc.com/borussia-dortmund/st...to-jurgen-klopp


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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 20 2015, 02:05 PM)
Brendan Rodgers has become the first Liverpool manager since the 1950s to go without winning silverware in his first three seasons at the club.
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Surprisingly Gerrard and Carragher are in the list of our manager replacement  rolleyes.gif

Next Liverpool manager odds:

1/3        Brendan Rogers

10          Rafael Benitez

10          Jurgen Klopp

14          Frank De Boer

16          Jamie Carragher

16          Ronald Koeman

20          Harry Redknapp

20          Steven Gerrard
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bolded part will do.

Isn't FDB AVD's brother?
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:19 PM)
bolded part will do.

Isn't FDB AVD's brother?
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FDB - Fuck that bitch?
AVD - Ass vs Dick?

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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 20 2015, 02:22 PM)
FDB - Fuck that bitch?
AVD - Ass vs Dick?

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wowowow, much imagination!!! you must be from marketing like dillon. biggrin.gif
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Gerrard and Carragher cannot la. They are years away from taking the managerial post at LFC. I wouldn't mind Frank De Boer or Jurgen Klopp. Rafa too, but I think it's gonna be a difficult relationship with FSG. But in any case, BR is still the current manager. I have a feeling he's gonna get one last season even if the team doesn't end up in the top 4.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:19 PM)
bolded part will do.

Isn't FDB AVD's brother?
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FDB is RDB's brother. I dunno who AVD is laugh.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 20 2015, 02:24 PM)
Gerrard and Carragher cannot la. They are years away from taking the managerial post at LFC. I wouldn't mind Frank De Boer or Jurgen Klopp. Rafa too, but I think it's gonna be a difficult relationship with FSG. But in any case, BR is still the current manager. I have a feeling he's gonna get one last season even if the team doesn't end up in the top 4.
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Sadly is, he just up his contract recently. It will show how the owner is really committed to winning instead of just doing business. So this summer is the test of both owner and the manager. finger cross.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:23 PM)
wowowow, much imagination!!! you must be from marketing like dillon. biggrin.gif
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But seriously who are those name that you were talking about? I really have no idea laugh.gif

Now you mention him, is he still with BRin camp?


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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 20 2015, 02:43 PM)
But seriously who are those name that you were talking about? I really have no idea  laugh.gif

Now you mention him, is he still with BRin camp?
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 20 2015, 02:19 PM)
bolded part will do.

Isn't FDB AVD's brother?
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We snatch so many Soton players ad, now even their manager we also want to snatch?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 02:53 PM)
We snatch so many Soton players ad, now even their manager we also want to snatch?
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This manager quite good in identify player as well.
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By look at how Liverpool plays against Villa, im glad Liverpool didnt make it to final
why ? do you wish to see Arsenal nailed Liverpool with big score 3-0/4-0...frankly im not..
and if by any chance, BR leave / resign by end of season, i wish we get can a demanding gaffer/head coach not someone simply follow what FSG say what do to
not buying bunch of "promising youngster"...peace yooo

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QUOTE(3rdElements @ Apr 20 2015, 03:59 PM)
By look at how Liverpool plays against Villa, im glad Liverpool didnt make it to final
why ? do you wish to see Arsenal nail Liverpool with big score 3-0/4-0...frankly im not..
and if by any chance, BR leave / resign by end of season, i wish we get can a demanding gaffer/head coach not someone simply follow what FSG say what do to
not buying bunch of "promising youngster"...peace yooo
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FSG is a huge proponent of sabermetrics policy when it comes to transfers so don't expect too much.

Might as well tell them to hire Brad Pitt as head coach
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 20 2015, 04:18 PM)
FSG is a huge proponent of sabermetrics policy when it comes to transfers so don't expect too much.

Might as well tell them to hire Brad Pitt as head coach
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Tiago Ilori as next coach. Enough loaning out, he's ready for the big job now
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 20 2015, 04:18 PM)
FSG is a huge proponent of sabermetrics policy when it comes to transfers so don't expect too much.

Might as well tell them to hire Brad Pitt as head coach
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Yeah, and for next season, i bet DS-Origi-Sterling-Balo/Aspas will be Liverpool strikers
or maybe Liverpool will get around 9-10M if their manage to sell Balo
keep the answer for yourself -> Does any top or proven striker available for less than 15M cool2.gif

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QUOTE(3rdElements @ Apr 20 2015, 03:59 PM)
By look at how Liverpool plays against Villa, im glad Liverpool didnt make it to final
why ? do you wish to see Arsenal nail Liverpool with big score 3-0/4-0...frankly im not..
and if by any chance, BR leave / resign by end of season, i wish we get can a demanding gaffer/head coach not someone simply follow what FSG say what do to
not buying bunch of "promising youngster"...peace yooo
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+1

i am thinking the same. better lose now rather than being trashed by arsenal later. except losing to av kinda...lame.

expect nothing this season. not even top 4. well maybe can go europa league.

1st impression looking up yesterday's line up

1 : allen start, crap liv gonna go loose
2 : no striker again (sterling is shit) : good luck
3 : 3 def again : good riddance
4 : lovren playing : good bye

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QUOTE(3rdElements @ Apr 20 2015, 04:44 PM)
Yeah, and for next season, i bet DS-Origi-Sterling-Balo/Aspas will be Liverpool strikers
or maybe Liverpool will get around 9-10M if their manage to sell Balo
keep the answer for yourself -> Does any top or proven striker available for less than 15M  cool2.gif
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get a top striker for $30m is better than buying 3 strikers at $35m and put them on the bench
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QUOTE(3rdElements @ Apr 20 2015, 04:44 PM)
Yeah, and for next season, i bet DS-Origi-Sterling-Balo/Aspas will be Liverpool strikers
or maybe Liverpool will get around 9-10M if their manage to sell Balo
keep the answer for yourself -> Does any top or proven striker available for less than 15M  cool2.gif
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I have no faith in

DS- he's been different since the injury, and is he made of glass?
Aspas- this dude sucks, he is not even above average given that he scored hat trick twice.
Origi- this dude is so average, but since he's still young, hope he could turn out good.
Balo- He's great, but BR just failed to utilise him, I don't favour him to stay or leave. I am ok with either one.
Sterling- He is not a striker for god sake, and since his contract sage, his performance sucks. Don't mind keeping him if he stop with the wage demanding, his future is bright.
Lambert- Why do we even buy him?

Top or proven striker available for less than 15M? None I am afraid.
Strikers that I'd wish to get will be Benzema or Cavani. Oh, and Suarez if we can go back in time. cry.gif
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QUOTE(3rdElements @ Apr 20 2015, 04:44 PM)
Yeah, and for next season, i bet DS-Origi-Sterling-Balo/Aspas will be Liverpool strikers
or maybe Liverpool will get around 9-10M if their manage to sell Balo
keep the answer for yourself -> Does any top or proven striker available for less than 15M  cool2.gif
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Why buy more strikers when u have a bunch of them in the team already.

DS, Balo, are established internationals n Origi is billed as the next Hazard.

We just need someone who knows how to unleash the beast in them n not whinin bout player incompatibility la, doesnt suit the system la..scouts useless la...

If I'm the gaffer I will buy one more CB n one DM n work with whatever that is left for me.

First guy I'm gonna put on my outgoing transfer list is Xavi.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 20 2015, 04:53 PM)
I have no faith in

DS- he's been different since the injury, and is he made of glass?
Aspas- this dude sucks, he is not even above average given that he scored hat trick twice.
Origi- this dude is so average, but since he's still young, hope he could turn out good.
Balo- He's great, but BR just failed to utilise him, I don't favour him to stay or leave. I am ok with either one.
Sterling- He is not a striker for god sake, and since his contract sage, his performance sucks. Don't mind keeping him if he stop with the wage demanding, his future is bright.
Lambert- Why do we even buy him?

Top or proven striker available for less than 15M? None I am afraid.
Strikers that I'd wish to get will be Benzema or Cavani. Oh, and Suarez if we can go back in time.  cry.gif
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so i guess Sterling is Liverpool golden ticket or maybe the resurrection of Liverpool.
Sell him and get proper player plays at their best area
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 20 2015, 04:54 PM)
Why buy more strikers when u have a bunch of them in the team already.

DS, Balo, are established internationals n Origi is billed as the next Hazard.

We just need someone who knows how to unleash the beast in them n not whinin bout player incompatibility la, doesnt suit the system la..scouts useless la...

If I'm the gaffer I will buy one more CB n one DM n work with whatever that is left for me.

First guy I'm gonna put on my outgoing transfer list is Xavi.
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Yeah, maybe if FSG could find a candidate that can accept their demands ( money come first, trophy later)
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I laf when on the 90th minutes BR subbed in our secret weapon to get an equaliser - lambert
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 20 2015, 04:48 PM)
get a top striker for $30m is better than buying 3 strikers at $35m and put them on the bench
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Lovren + Lallana + Markovic + Origi > 70 mil...

This is what I had mentioned before, large squad with mediocre players no use one to improve "squad depth".



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When will BR gonna realize that coutinho and sterling are not strikers. Cant he just put in lambert and balo as starters and sterling/Coutinho as AMC (They are brilliant in there). Play back Diamond 4-4-2 and attack from middle.
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QUOTE(Patt_Hup @ Apr 20 2015, 05:42 PM)
When will BR gonna realize that coutinho and sterling are not strikers. Cant he just put in lambert and balo as starters and sterling/Coutinho as AMC (They are brilliant in there). Play back Diamond 4-4-2 and attack from middle.
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BR doesn't have any plan to play strikes, evidently you can see his line up have more midfielders than any other BPL team. In fact he bought more Midfielders more than any other BPL team
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How irony, few weeks ago fan were praising BR for his 12 games unbeaten, rumors of BR link to Barcelona and Man City and BR in camp is making fun of BR out camp as pessimistic but now almost every fan is calling for BR head.

BTW we should get a top manager to replace BR and my top 3 choice is going to be:
1) Klopp
2) Rafa
3) Frank De Boer

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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Apr 20 2015, 07:13 PM)
How irony, few weeks ago fan were praising BR for his 12 games unbeaten, rumors of BR link to Barcelona and Man City and BR in camp is making fun of BR out camp as pessimistic but now almost every fan is calling for BR head.

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BR out or BR in, WHATEVER LA...all of us have suffer enough pain. There's a reason why we, the so called pessimists chose to remain cautious over Wodgers, because we never believe in the hype and see things with our rose tinted glasses.

Move on.











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no more mood already to watch lfc games..and no point watching them too..

even preseason.. all same shit!
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Maybe watching with new coach tongue.gif
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Brendan Rodgers claims that Liverpool and Manchester United are the two biggest clubs in England – and that it will take "20 years" for new-money sides like Manchester City, and even Chelsea, to catch up.

Rumours are swirling that Raheem Sterling could quit Anfield either to join either Jose Mourinho's team or Manuel Pellegrini's but Rodgers argues that such a move would represent a step down for the England international.

The Reds may only occupy fifth spot in the Premier League – and have not won the title in 25 years – but the Northern Irishman is adamant that City are incomparable to Liverpool and are instead scrapping with Chelsea and Arsenal to be the country's third-biggest club.

"I wouldn't say that this was a development ground for going to bigger clubs. If you say that Manchester City is a bigger club than Liverpool, you're wrong," Rodgers told reporters ahead of an FA Cup semi-final showdown with Aston Villa.

"At this moment in time, Manchester City are on a great project. They're a wonderful club, I've seen it for myself a few years ago when I spoke with them. I've got big respect for what they're doing there.

"They're trying to build it the right way and hopefully they'll get young players through at this Sport City, all of that, but, at this moment in time, you can't compare as a club the size of the two.

"You've got Liverpool and Manchester United, the two biggest clubs in this country, and the rest of them are fighting to be there over the next 20 years."

Liverpool have won the league title on 18 occasions, as well as lifting the Champions League – or European Cup – five times, whereas City have one Cup Winners' Cup and four top-flight titles, two of those coming in the last four years.
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What's happen with br...

He seems doesn't know how to put striker properly. Sterling isn't a real striker. Aston Villa already put a good strategy to defend sterling.

Until balo comes, goyang sikit.

Then lambert comes on, good chance especially play long ball.

Aiyoo...balo and lambert has nice first touch and good passing skill. Should have played them.

Studridge also need a partner. Balo or lambert will do cause they are good in passing and strong.

#brout tongue.gif
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Apr 20 2015, 11:06 PM)
What's happen with br...

He seems doesn't know how to put striker properly. Sterling isn't a real striker. Aston Villa already put a good strategy to defend sterling.

Until balo comes, goyang sikit.

Then lambert comes on, good chance especially play long ball.

Aiyoo...balo and lambert has nice first touch and good passing skill. Should have played them.

Studridge also need a partner. Balo or lambert will do cause they are good in passing and strong.

#brout tongue.gif
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In the last 10 min, when the team try to play long ball to Balo, it seems work better, more threat to upfront, instead pass pass pass, tiki taka, nowhere to go in the final third.
Balo is good at holding up the ball, as compared to Sterling.
Sterling strength is more a dribble type bursting from midfield player, not a striker.

But the manager may too stubborn to recognise it.
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In case you didn't know la
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Lol what kind of weed is he smoking, does this mean we can consistently finish outside top four and still claim we are a big club? Get ur head outta your assess BR, seriously just shut up and do your homework properly or rather just resign


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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 20 2015, 09:30 AM)
Yes. Please do share with us how Wodgers can turn this around? I couldn't help but to notice that you are one of the staunchest supporter of BR regime so u must have seen something in him that most of us here don't?
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Please. I always remain optimistic even things do not go the way I want.

Thats my way of life. You wanna be pessimistic that yours problem.

BR is not my ideal manager. But i given him lots chances to prove himself.

So if he cannot brings good to LFC then give chance to other manager.

You know. If a person performs good. We should give them credit. And vice versa.

Anything you wanna find fault with?
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QUOTE(genjo @ Apr 21 2015, 08:46 AM)
Please. I always remain optimistic even things do not go the way I want.

Thats my way of life. You wanna be pessimistic that yours problem.

BR is not my ideal manager. But i given him lots chances to prove himself. 

So if he cannot brings good to LFC then give chance to other manager.

You know. If a person performs good. We should give them credit. And vice versa.

Anything you wanna find fault with?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2015, 08:02 AM)
In the last 10 min, when the team try to play long ball to Balo, it seems work better, more threat to upfront, instead pass pass pass, tiki taka, nowhere to go in the final third.
Balo is good at holding up the ball, as compared to Sterling.
Sterling strength is more a dribble type bursting from midfield player, not a striker.

But the manager may too stubborn to recognise it.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2015, 08:02 AM)
In the last 10 min, when the team try to play long ball to Balo, it seems work better, more threat to upfront, instead pass pass pass, tiki taka, nowhere to go in the final third.
Balo is good at holding up the ball, as compared to Sterling.
Sterling strength is more a dribble type bursting from midfield player, not a striker.

But the manager may too stubborn to recognise it.
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yea, or when in the last min, lovren did that long ball...guess some teammates had already made their way to the stands then tongue.gif
but sterling ah, his dribbling isnt much...only his acceleration burst hence why he gets fouled often.
dunno how many times also see sterling go 1v1 but lose the ball...sell sell also dont care...

now hendo has signed a new 5-yr contract at 100k/week...good for him.

#sterlingOUT.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 21 2015, 10:53 AM)
yea, or when in the last min, lovren did that long ball...guess some teammates had already made their way to the stands then tongue.gif
but sterling ah, his dribbling isnt much...only his acceleration burst hence why he gets fouled often.
dunno how many times also see sterling go 1v1 but lose the ball...sell sell also dont care...

now hendo has signed a new 5-yr contract at 100k/week...good for him.

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hendo signing new contract is good news, on the other hand i pretty much lost hope in sterling. his performance had been lacking lately and its obvious the contract issue affect both the player and the club.
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correct me if i'm wrong, sterling is getting 30k/week gaji now, with contract ending 2017 as per HERE
omos 1 year to go to contract ends, he wants more than 100k?

his recent perf doesnt justify though. 100k/week oso abit too much liaw. most i give mayb 70k-80k range. but that's just me.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 21 2015, 11:09 AM)
correct me if i'm wrong, sterling is getting 30k/week gaji now, with contract ending 2017 as per HERE
omos 1 year to go to contract ends, he wants more than 100k?

his recent perf doesnt justify though. 100k/week oso abit too much liaw. most i give mayb 70k-80k range. but that's just me.
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he wants more than 100k / week as a means to justify himself of not signing a new contract, as he knows LFC also wont offer one at that price.
pretty obvious he is holding out for some particular team/s to come in for him.
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Today transfer rumour say Juventus had joined the bidding war for sterling.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 21 2015, 11:09 AM)
correct me if i'm wrong, sterling is getting 30k/week gaji now, with contract ending 2017 as per HERE
omos 1 year to go to contract ends, he wants more than 100k?

his recent perf doesnt justify though. 100k/week oso abit too much liaw. most i give mayb 70k-80k range. but that's just me.
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sterling already rejected 70k-80k contract before being offered 100k, and he rejected it too cited he want to win trophy as reason (we are in fa cup semi final at that moment), which look completely ridiculous. i agree 100k is too much for him, that's why 100k is the max offer and liverpool must stand firm.
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Today transfer rumour say Juventus had joined the bidding war for sterling.
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^ london, u mean chelsea? arsenal?
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 21 2015, 12:00 PM)
^ london, u mean chelsea? arsenal?
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^ london, u mean chelsea? arsenal?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 21 2015, 12:38 PM)
google sterling chelsea  whistling.gif
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ok, u 2. fight.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Please. I always remain optimistic even things do not go the way I want.

Thats my way of life. You wanna be pessimistic that yours problem.

BR is not my ideal manager. But i given him lots chances to prove himself. 

So if he cannot brings good to LFC then give chance to other manager.

You know. If a person performs good. We should give them credit. And vice versa.

Anything you wanna find fault with?
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Nobody is finding fault on you. In my circle it's call 'refuting' your points earlier that BR is the carefully chosen one, which you firmly believe in.

What happened to "the more you criticize, the more I support BR?" That doesn't seem to gel with your current stand and your change of tone was rather surprising....although somewhat pre-empted.

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no need to fight la, ayam peasant he is blue tag.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 21 2015, 11:02 AM)
hendo signing new contract is good news, on the other hand i pretty much lost hope in sterling. his performance had been lacking lately and its obvious the contract issue affect both the player and the club.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 21 2015, 12:45 PM)
Nobody is finding fault on you. In my circle it's call 'refuting' your points earlier that BR is the carefully chosen one, which you firmly believe in.

What happened to "the more you criticize, the more I support BR?" That doesn't seem to gel with your current stand and your change of tone was rather surprising....although somewhat pre-empted.
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Looks like someone is getting personal again. So addictive ah?

Anyway, looks like BR's time in LFC will be decided in these last few games. It really looks like we are going to go through another transition period.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 21 2015, 11:09 AM)
correct me if i'm wrong, sterling is getting 30k/week gaji now, with contract ending 2017 as per HERE
omos 1 year to go to contract ends, he wants more than 100k?

his recent perf doesnt justify though. 100k/week oso abit too much liaw. most i give mayb 70k-80k range. but that's just me.
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If lovren and Toure are getting in the range of 70K, how can Sterling also same range with them? whistling.gif
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If lovren and Toure are getting in the range of 70K, how can Sterling also same range with them?  whistling.gif
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On the wages part, that's 1 thing FSG and BR is good at isn't it?

If you don't perform, you don't get paid. Of course then his selling price becomes lower as he runs down his contract.

Unlike doubling a pay when someone threatens to leave with the reason the team has no top player.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 01:52 PM)
Looks like someone is getting personal again. So addictive ah?

Anyway, looks like BR's time in LFC will be decided in these last few games. It really looks like we are going to go through another transition period.
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Transition period for 10 years? tongue.gif

On Sterling issue, if he doesn't sign by end of the season, then just cash in on him la. Not say he superstar status in the club also. Just like BR's case, Suarez made him look good. Owai...
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He is NOT allowed to buy out his final year contract as he has less than three years left in his contract... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 21 2015, 02:35 PM)
Transition period for 10 years? tongue.gif

On Sterling issue, if he doesn't sign by end of the season, then just cash in on him la. Not say he superstar status in the club also. Just like BR's case, Suarez made him look good. Owai...
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 02:16 PM)
On the wages part, that's 1 thing FSG and BR is good at isn't it?

If you don't perform, you don't get paid. Of course then his selling price becomes lower as he runs down his contract.

Unlike doubling a pay when someone threatens to leave with the reason the team has no top player.
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I don't know, but if Lovren and Toure are at 70K, it gives you a clue how well they manage the wages issue... sweat.gif
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I don't know, but if Lovren and Toure are at 70K, it gives you a clue how well they manage the wages issue...  sweat.gif
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I can explain for Toure which has something to do with the Bosman Ruling. Whereby free transfer are given higher wages. Same like how we signed Joe Cole, Milan Jovanovic and Voronin.

As for Lovren, though his performance has been poor with us this season, but he was vital and I would say successful for Southampton last year.


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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 03:22 PM)
I can explain for Toure which has something to do with the Bosman Ruling. Whereby free transfer are given higher wages. Same like how we signed Joe Cole, Milan Jovanovic and Voronin.

As for Lovren, though his performance has been poor with us this season, but he was vital and I would say successful for Southampton last year.
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are our financial that bad we had to b*tch about toure and lovren salary? both of them not even on top players salary bracket in liverpool. falcao got paid 300k sitting on the bench for mu, diaby earn 65k when he spend more time in hospital than playing for arsenal, mcity had tons of dead wood in the team and i'm sure chelsea got a few as well.

coutinho just renew his contract and his salary is around the region of 70k perweek. do you think it's fair for sterling to ask for 150k? i feel even 100k is a bit "over" for him at the moment.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 03:22 PM)
I can explain for Toure which has something to do with the Bosman Ruling. Whereby free transfer are given higher wages. Same like how we signed Joe Cole, Milan Jovanovic and Voronin.

As for Lovren, though his performance has been poor with us this season, but he was vital and I would say successful for Southampton last year.
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Toure was about 33 when signed last year.
Not mid 20 or late 20s.
You don't pay high wages for a player that going into retirement age.

For Lovren, it just suggests judgement on player was poor by the manager or the transfer committee, one season wonder, you pay 20 mil + 70K wages?

If one season wonder CB can be rated 20 mil + 70K wages, then striker like Ing, Austin may as well 30 mil rated with more than 100k? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 21 2015, 04:15 PM)
are our financial that bad we had to b*tch about toure and lovren salary? both of them not even on top players salary bracket in liverpool. falcao got paid 300k sitting on the bench for mu, diaby earn 65k when he spend more time in hospital than playing for arsenal, mcity had tons of dead wood in the team and i'm sure chelsea got a few as well.

coutinho just renew his contract and his salary is around the region of 70k perweek. do you think it's fair for sterling to ask for 150k? i feel even 100k is a bit "over" for him at the moment.
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Yes, because the club is not afford to pay top wages... despite top 10 club in Europe sums up poor financial management be it in transfer dealing to contract negotiation.

Liv has plenty of loan out players...
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I don't know, but if Lovren and Toure are at 70K, it gives you a clue how well they manage the wages issue...  sweat.gif
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somehow reminds me of our ex-manager DM with his luni + young + nani new contract doh.gif

then again, lovren was signed aftr a good season with soton, so understandable.
as for toure, he was frm citeh. we all knw wat citeh will do when it comes to offering wages. wink.gif

so not much u can do there.

as for the hot issue sterling, if, just IF, he were to leave, will there be another sterling waiting in line to take over his position in ur club? hmm.gif be it academy or existing player.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 21 2015, 02:35 PM)
Transition period for 10 years? tongue.gif

On Sterling issue, if he doesn't sign by end of the season, then just cash in on him la. Not say he superstar status in the club also. Just like BR's case, Suarez made him look good. Owai...
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To be frank,
Suarez made BR looks good.
Suarez made Sterling looks too good until he become delusional that he deserved >100k per week wages.
Suarez made Sturridge looks good that we thought its a super partnership.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2015, 04:26 PM)
Toure was about 33 when signed last year.
Not mid 20 or late 20s.
You don't pay high wages for a player that going into retirement age.

For Lovren, it just suggests judgement on player was poor by the manager or the transfer committee, one season wonder, you pay 20 mil + 70K wages?

If one season wonder CB can be rated 20 mil + 70K wages, then striker like Ing, Austin may as well 30 mil rated with more than 100k?  whistling.gif
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I can totally imagined that happen next summer, IF, just IF Liverpool successfully bought Ing or Austin, CONFIRM the price will be 35m with 100k per week wages.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 21 2015, 04:53 PM)

as for the hot issue sterling, if, just IF, he were to leave, will there be another sterling waiting in line to take over his position in ur club?  hmm.gif be it academy or existing player.
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daily fail must be joking...letting go skrtel...
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/transfer-talk/7...layers-the-door

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daily fail must be joking...letting go skrtel...
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/transfer-talk/7...layers-the-door
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Skrtel was out of favour at one time, same with Carra.

Both have same identical scenario, both players were out of favour by the manager, but then team leaking goals non-stop, both were recalled back to tighten up the defence.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2015, 05:13 PM)
Skrtel was out of favour at one time, same with Carra.

Both have same identical scenario, both players were out of favour by the manager, but then team leaking goals non-stop, both were recalled back to tighten up the defence.
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exactly, 'tighten up the defence'.
and if kolo and skrtel goes, that leaves the right CB position open again.
sakho is obviously left sided, while lovren being right footed has played on the left most of the time also...only in LFC that BR has thrown him on the right more...
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2015, 04:26 PM)
Toure was about 33 when signed last year.
Not mid 20 or late 20s.
You don't pay high wages for a player that going into retirement age.

For Lovren, it just suggests judgement on player was poor by the manager or the transfer committee, one season wonder, you pay 20 mil + 70K wages?

If one season wonder CB can be rated 20 mil + 70K wages, then striker like Ing, Austin may as well 30 mil rated with more than 100k?  whistling.gif
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You clearly don't even bother to find out what Bosman ruling is. No point discussing a matter with you.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 05:29 PM)
You clearly don't even bother to find out what Bosman ruling is. No point discussing a matter with you.
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Bosman ruling is attractive for club to pay high wages to player as they don't need to pay transfer fee.
Once the player signed the 5 years contract, the player has a valuation that club can recoup from, hence it justify for club to pay high wages.

Save from transfer fee + potential player valuation = high wages for player.

But this situation is not the same for player reaching retirement age, especially the player seems as stop gap or backup player only.
Somemore at that kind of age, transfer fee also minimal only if the player is not under Bosman.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2015, 05:33 PM)
Bosman ruling is attractive for club to pay high wages to player as they don't need to pay transfer fee.
Once the player signed the 5 years contract, the player has a valuation that club can recoup from, hence it justify for club to pay high wages.

Save from transfer fee + potential player valuation = high wages for player.

But this situation is not the same for player reaching retirement age, especially the player seems as stop gap or backup player only.
Somemore at that kind of age, transfer fee also minimal only if the player is not under Bosman.
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Like you said, he is a back up of a back up. He was behind Carra (last year), Skrtel, Agger, and Sakho. Hence, we signed a player who can still play around 3 years.

Which will cost 36months x 70k = 2.5M. Assuming no bonus etc etc.

Share with me a player we can sign for 1M, and 40k wages and willing to the 5th CB. Thanks.
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Weekly wages no?
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 05:44 PM)
Like you said, he is a back up of a back up. He was behind Carra (last year), Skrtel, Agger, and Sakho. Hence, we signed a player who can still play around 3 years.

Which will cost 36months x 70k = 2.5M. Assuming no bonus etc etc.

Share with me a player we can sign for 1M, and 40k wages and willing to the 5th CB. Thanks.
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Then the question will be why spent 2.5M on a 5th CB.
To improve 'depth" of the team until need 5th CB? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 05:44 PM)
Like you said, he is a back up of a back up. He was behind Carra (last year), Skrtel, Agger, and Sakho. Hence, we signed a player who can still play around 3 years.

Which will cost 36months x 70k = 2.5M. Assuming no bonus etc etc.

Share with me a player we can sign for 1M, and 40k wages and willing to the 5th CB. Thanks.
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how bout coates? when he returns to LFC end of this season, he'll effectively be either our 4th or 5th CB, depending how highly u rate kolo...and coates wages is 50k.
oh, and coates transfer fee was 7m tongue.gif

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[quote=cherroy,Apr 21 2015, 05:51 PM]
Then the question will be why spent 2.5M on a 5th CB.
To improve 'depth" of the team until need 5th CB? laugh.gif

Every mil count.
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Sorry my calculation was wrong blush.gif

It should be 156 weeks x 70k - 11M. That would mean we can sign a 5M odd CB and pay 40k. hehehe.

Anyway since you diverted another subtopic to discuss. We practically had 3 CB with Agger injured almost the entire season?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 21 2015, 05:55 PM)
how bout coates? when he returns to LFC end of this season, he'll effectively be either our 4th or 5th CB, depending how highly u rate kolo...and coates wages is 50k.
oh, and coates transfer fee was 7m tongue.gif
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Alamak, every player also kena justify now. Totally forgot bout this dude.

Whatever happened to Coates, it is a mystery, could not even get into Sunderland's first team. Probably back to Uruguay after this.

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Alamak, every player also kena justify now.

Whatever happened to Coates, it is a mystery, could not even get into Sunderland's first team. Probably back to Uruguay after this.
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think coates has 1 more yr left on his contract.
so probably LFC will try to milk out another 1-2m with another loan deal somewhere before offloading him for free.
but with kolo and skrtel set to supposedly leave, chances of coates staying is there...zzz.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 21 2015, 06:02 PM)
think coates has 1 more yr left on his contract.
so probably LFC will try to milk out another 1-2m with another loan deal somewhere before offloading him for free.
but with kolo and skrtel set to supposedly leave, chances of coates staying is there...zzz.
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next season, rebuild again...zzz.
forever rebuilding.
good manager can rebuild in a few months only, this one need 4yrs now...

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BR is a chelsea reject.

buy chelsea reject players only 1 made it through, that also injury prone.


BR OUT!


edit, nanti kena ban for no reason.

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BR is a chelsea reject.

buy chelsea reject players only 1 made it through, that also injury prone.
BR OUT!
edit, nanti kena ban for no reason.
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BR is not a reject, we part ways because he want to be a manager.

as for Studge, chelsea management offered him a new contract, but he refused to sign because he demanded central role as striker and more game time. He was sold to avoid leaving for free transfer.
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BR is not a reject, we part ways because he want to be a manager.

as for Studge, chelsea management offered him a new contract, but he refused to sign because he demanded central role as striker and more game time. He was sold to avoid leaving for free transfer.
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I blame those who sack KD n sapork the sacking n the signing of BR.

Br is unproven with no europe experience.

LFC has wasted 3 yrs. n its reputation damaged further.


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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2015, 06:00 PM)
Alamak, every player also kena justify now. Totally forgot bout this dude.

Whatever happened to Coates, it is a mystery, could not even get into Sunderland's first team. Probably back to Uruguay after this.
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When the club cannot afford to buy top player and pay top wages, then those 70K, 60K expensive bench warmer recruit surely will be scrutinised.

A club that earns near to 300 mil per annum cannot afford to pay 150k wages for top player but can afford to pay 3 to 4 per 70K wages for bench warmer, or players who can't even can make it into the bench.

You forgot Ilori as well. whistling.gif
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Juv interested in Sterling and willing to pay £50 mil?

Sure or not?
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From last year and this year, BR is really clueless to change the team tactic when we are down..against big teams, he cluesless and totally outclass by opposing team manager.
The good about BR we will play attacking football against lower teams - win
The bad - when we concede we lost..because he almost cannot change the team tactic at all
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Apr 21 2015, 10:59 PM)
From last year and this year, BR is really clueless to change the team tactic when we are down..against big teams, he cluesless and totally outclass by opposing team manager.
The good about BR we will play attacking football against lower teams - win
The bad - when we concede we lost..because he almost cannot change the team tactic at all
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you know the worst part, it only take a team (swansea) to beat our tactic and the rest just follow (arsenal, mu, a.villa). and that ego of still playing moreno game after game despite his 3 errors against mu and arsenal.
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 21 2015, 08:55 PM)
I blame those who sack KD n sapork the sacking n the signing of BR.

Br is unproven with no europe experience.

LFC has wasted 3 yrs. n its reputation damaged further.
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I was really sad to see Kenny replaced at that time. He led Liverpool to first trophy in six years and signed Suarez.
Given enough time I think he will do better than BR. He just need more time after away from football for so long.

To me BR is just arrogant, thinking he is the king of the world after one good season and talk so much crap that
made him a fool and eat his own words. Liverpool should sack him and get a new manager asap!
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 21 2015, 11:59 PM)
you know the worst part, it only take a team (swansea) to beat our tactic and the rest just follow (arsenal, mu, a.villa). and that ego of still playing moreno game after game despite his 3 errors against mu and arsenal.
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What happen to enrique?he the best left back we have..he link up with suarez last season is superb..quite a few key pass to suarez ftom the left lead to goal...

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There was talk of tactical brilliance of a young manager that helped us to rake in 12 unbeaten run from December...

The link below shows how Indecisive Rodgers in one crucial semi final game.
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/tacti...ong-at-wembley/

Others might defend n say it's only one, well maybe 2..or 3 defeats since the big lengthy run. (Yup really)

His job is safe says FSG, even though it's reported Rodgers position to remain unchanged (maybe evaluated at season's end). The "carefully chosen" one IF relieved of his managerial position will be as if FSG tripping on its own foot.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/repor...rendan-rodgers/

Rodgers is being credited n praised for able to coax young players to do the job (really?), willing to offer young players a chance to play for first team (hmmm r I g h t)

Also credited for being able to communicate well with since his spoken language is English.

And yes, "a lot of us" have mentioned he (rodgers ) has better man-management skills (better than 2 of the 3 previous LFC managers.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/stop-...erbole-brendan/

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Brendan Rodgers likes to talk. He talks a lot. That’s not necessarily a problem – after all, talking is part of his job (an increasingly bigger part in modern football). The problem is the hyperbole that he delivers on a weekly basis is helping nobody, not himself and certainly not the young players he overly lavishes praise upon.
Every manager says things that annoy supporters, and every manager has quotes that come back to haunt them, but Brendan Rodgers is making a habit of saying things that very quickly backfire.

I’ve regularly defended Rodgers this season when fans have criticised him on social media for talking about certain subjects, pointing out that that’s how questions work, the manager is paid to give answers in press conferences. He answers what he is asked.

The problem is he talks too much and gets carried away when things are going well.

In recent months we’ve heard Rodgers tell us how his new look Liverpool side would have fared so much better in the Champions League than the one dumped out after just one win in six back in December. “If we were in it now with this group and the confidence we’re showing and the way of working then we would have had a chance,” he claimed.


We, (the so called pessimists) noticed this young erm manager (Rodgers) as questionable on his managerial duties. And gets many said we are perhaps jumping the gun on him.

Rodgers certainly pulled a fast one on Liverpoolfc rclxub.gif
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Ok let's blame the transferr committee then sad.gif

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The Northern Irishamn is approaching the end of his third season at Anfield, having spent over £212 million on 20 players, with an additional four loanees.

What it amounts to, writes Sam Cunningham in the Daily Mail, is the lack of return on such a heavy investment:

During Rodgers’ time in charge, Manchester United and Chelsea had spent more than their Merseyside rivals – so too have City by a fraction – but each of those have brought home something. United and City have won two trophies – including the Premier League title – while Chelsea have one and are sure to add the league title to that soon.

Arsene Wenger has spent £183m, comparatively little, but managed to win two trophies over the past two seasons. That is less than rivals Tottenham, who have spent just under £200m and, like Liverpool, have won nothing.

Cunningham claims, based on 22 of players bought under Rodgers, only seven have proved a success, and says the club’s failings in the transfer market will heap more pressure on young signings such as Divock Origi.

Player From Reported Price (£m) Date
Fabio Borini Roma 10.4 July 2012
Joe Allen Swansea 15 August 2012
Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen 2.4 August 2012
Nuri Sahin Real Madrid Loan August 2012
Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen 1 August 2012
Daniel Sturridge Chelsea 12 January 2013
Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan 8.6 January 2013
Luis Alberto Sevilla 6.8 June 2013
Iago Aspas Celta Vigo 7.5 June 2013
Simon Mignolet Sunderland 10 June 2013
Kolo Toure Manchester City Free July 2013
Aly Cissokho Valencia Loan August 2013
Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon 7 September 2013
Mamadou Sakho PSG 15 September 2013
Victor Moses Chelsea Loan September 2013
Rickie Lambert Southampton 4.5 June 2014
Adam Lallana Southampton 25 July 2014
Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen 9.75 July 2014
Lazar Markovic Benfica 19.8 July 2014
Dejan Lovren Southampton 20 July 2014
Diock Origi Lille 10 July 2014
Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid Loan August 2014
Alberto Moreno Sevilla 12 August 2014
Mario Balotelli AC Milan 16


"A manager with impeccable record with youth the say"

Rodgers to me wasted money... Oh wait, transfer committee fault doh.gif
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I miss Suarez. He always hunger for goal
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Spyda, this is the clip from "Being Liverpool" series which made a lot of fanboys jizzed in their pants biggrin.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujTSELwsPA



PS: genjo, you really expect me to dig through your pile of Kopitiam posts to prove what I said? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 21 2015, 08:55 PM)
I blame those who sack KD n sapork the sacking n the signing of BR.

Br is unproven with no europe experience.

LFC has wasted 3 yrs. n its reputation damaged further.
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Can't agree more with this.

BR need time? We gave him. BR need funds? We gave him. BR need fans support? We gave him as well.

And what did he give us? Nothing but further damage to the club, shipping out all the veteran.

The damage is done, and its permanent, BR need to go now or he will do more and more damage to the club.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 08:42 AM)
Spyda, this is the clip from "Being Liverpool" series which made a lot of fanboys jizzed in their pants biggrin.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujTSELwsPA



PS: genjo, you really expect me to dig through your pile of Kopitiam posts  to prove what I said? biggrin.gif
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Then you can just simple accuse? Pffftt

Edit: Btw, why you search kopitiam? No wonder you can't find. You should search here.

Don't talk kok if you can't find my post

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 22 2015, 08:59 AM)
Can't agree more with this.

BR need time? We gave him. BR need funds? We gave him. BR need fans support? We gave him as well.

And what did he give us? Nothing but further damage to the club, shipping out all the veteran.

The damage is done, and its permanent, BR need to go now or he will do more and more damage to the club.
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Does anyone remember when is the last time our player scored using their head?

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QUOTE(genjo @ Apr 22 2015, 09:14 AM)
Then you can just simple accuse?  Pffftt

Edit: Btw,  why you search kopitiam? No wonder you can't find. You should search here.

Don't talk kok if you can't find my post
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Check your posts again on Feb 13th 2015 smartie pants. Checked.
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Does anyone remember when is the last time our player scored using their head?
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Nope in this season. Even last season is seldom. Our cross lousy, set pieces lousy, corner lousy, header lousy sums it all.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 22 2015, 01:49 AM)
Ok let's blame the transferr committee then sad.gif
"A manager with impeccable record with youth the say"

Rodgers to me wasted money... Oh wait, transfer committee fault  doh.gif
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can anyone name me which 7 players is a success? i can only put coutinho, sturridge, Can and maybe lallana. the likes of sakho, mignolet and toure are too inconsistent to be call a success.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 09:48 AM)
Check your posts again on Feb 13th 2015 smartie pants. Checked.
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I checked. Still didn't see which post said BR is the chosen one.

Perhaps you quote it here will be much better.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Apr 21 2015, 07:41 PM)
BR is not a reject, we part ways because he want to be a manager.

as for Studge, chelsea management offered him a new contract, but he refused to sign because he demanded central role as striker and more game time. He was sold to avoid leaving for free transfer.
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sama lah, he thinks he's some hot shot, if he's really that good Mourinho would have recalled him, after all now Chelsea is undergoing some very strong internal changes, they want to build an empire just like how Man City is doing, focusing on the internals. This stupid wanker came into LFC and destroyed every sense of "structure". Its either HIM, or no structure. Because the structure is about HIM, so called "BR THE SPECIAL ONE".

This insanity must be stopped. Too much damage has been done.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 21 2015, 08:00 PM)
i thought he was sold as a parting gift from rafa to LFC  whistling.gif
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Either way Chelsea can't keep him, let alone use him. If Rafa doesn't even use him, or his predecessors, says a lot for a man supposedly to be a wonderkid. That also reminds me, we bought so many wonderkids, but never used them. WE bought the next this, next that, next whoever crap, bla bla bla, never used .


So much potential, but BR is now more of a YOUTH KILLER than a YOUTH WIZARD.


BROUT!
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it is that time of the year, who is the flop of the season for us?

I believe top of the list will be these 2 fella

Lovren
Balo

Lovren for me, frankly with this kind of performance might as well keep Agger - he would have made more appearance (And performed better) with injuries doh.gif
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 22 2015, 10:09 AM)
it is that time of the year, who is the flop of the season for us?

I believe top of the list will be these 2 fella

Lovren
Balo

Lovren for me, frankly with this kind of performance might as well keep Agger - he would have made more appearance (And performed better) with injuries doh.gif
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you forget moreno, one of the shittiest left back
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 10:13 AM)
you forget moreno, one of the shittiest left back
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He should be winger instead of Wingback.
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QUOTE(genjo @ Apr 22 2015, 10:06 AM)
I checked. Still didn't see which post said BR is the chosen one.

Perhaps you quote it here will be much better.
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"Give him time n Rome isnt build in 1 day; You can critic all you want, I even support"

If this doesn't give you the impression you believe in BR as the chosen one, then I do not know what else to say. Did I accuse you?



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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 10:17 AM)
"Give him time n Rome isnt build in 1 day; You can critic all you want, I even support"

If this doesn't give you the impression you believe in BR as the chosen one, then I do not know what else to say. Did I accuse you?
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Yup i support him.

He is a chosen one ? Nope.

Try to put word in my mouth ? Nice try.
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how can u guys call balo a flop ? he's been good everywhere else except in LP. Whose fault is this ? -> 1 person only .. BR

http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=48766

LEAGUE FA CUP LGE CUP OTHER
APPS GLS APPS GLS APPS GLS APPS GLS
Liverpool 8 (6) 1 0 (4) 0 0 (3) 1 4 (1) 2
Milan 37 (6) 26 0 (0) 0 0 (0) 0 6 (2) 2
Man City 33 (21) 20 4 (2) 1 3 (0) 2 9 (8) 7
Inter 3 (2) 2 0 (0) 0 0 (0) 0 6 (9) 2
Lumezzane No appearance data available
Totals 81 (35)49 4 (6) 1 3 (3) 3 25 (20) 13
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So many wasted transfers.

We need to spend big and get good players.

Not spend alang2 like 20 mil which is not expensive but not cheap as well and get players like Lovren. doh.gif
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Balo does not suits for LFC playstyle. He'll be good in team like Arsenal.
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He should be winger instead of Wingback.
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and what had he contribute in terms of attacking other than 1 impressive goal he score? i dont remember he had that many hand in assists, his pass/crosses are average at best, nothing to shout about.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 10:34 AM)
and what had he contribute in terms of attacking other than 1 impressive goal he score? i dont remember he had that many hand in assists, his pass/crosses are average at best, nothing to shout about.
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True on that, his cross is terrible. His run is decent though, that's why I'm saying he's better off a winger than a wingback.
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 22 2015, 09:35 AM)
Does anyone remember when is the last time our player scored using their head?
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Suarez, with a rocket header!!!
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 10:58 AM)
Suarez, with a rocket header!!!
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assisted by aly cissokho biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 22 2015, 10:09 AM)
it is that time of the year, who is the flop of the season for us?

I believe top of the list will be these 2 fella

Lovren
Balo

Lovren for me, frankly with this kind of performance might as well keep Agger - he would have made more appearance (And performed better) with injuries doh.gif
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You can't put Balo in Lovren level of failure.

Lovren was given more playing time than Balo to prove his worth. Where Balo was victim of a manager who doesn't know how to utilize a good decent striker.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 09:58 AM)
can anyone name me which 7 players is a success? i can only put coutinho, sturridge, Can and maybe lallana. the likes of sakho, mignolet and toure are too inconsistent to be call a success.
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Success as in SUCCESS?

If that is the case I can only name

1. Coutinho - 8.5m yet play like a 20m player, had been a very very important player to the team.
2. Sturridge - 12m yet play like a 20m player, but too bad he is toooooo injury prone, but given the contribution he gave last season, he definitely fit into success. (but not sure whether its Suarez made him looks good tongue.gif )
3. Can - 12m, a lil bit overpriced, but he did put up outstanding performance so far, good with the ball, well build, versatile in terms of position can be play, young with full of potential.

That's it. 7? Who the hell is the other 4? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 22 2015, 10:22 AM)
So many wasted transfers.

We need to spend big and get good players.

Not spend alang2 like 20 mil which is not expensive but not cheap as well and get players like Lovren.  doh.gif
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we always a few million short of signing big ones. blame it on Ian "Low Ball" Ayre.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 11:03 AM)
we always a few million short of signing big ones. blame it on Ian "Low Ball" Ayre.
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big name we missed out:
mikthiryan - he choose dortmund over us due to obvious reason
willian - never rate him much, looking at how he play at chelsea, never the kind of player we need.
sanchez - same reason with mikth, i guess no big name want to play for br
diego costa - he did not want to leave a.m

who else i miss?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 22 2015, 11:01 AM)
Success as in SUCCESS?

If that is the case I can only name

1. Coutinho - 8.5m yet play like a 20m player, had been a very very important player to the team.
2. Sturridge - 12m yet play like a 20m player, but too bad he is toooooo injury prone, but given the contribution he gave last season, he definitely fit into success. (but not sure whether its Suarez made him looks good tongue.gif )
3. Can - 12m, a lil bit overpriced, but he did put up outstanding performance so far, good with the ball, well build, versatile in terms of position can be play, young with full of potential.

That's it. 7? Who the hell is the other 4?  rclxub.gif
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How about Alllllleeeeeeeennnnnnnn
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 11:09 AM)
big name we missed out:
mikthiryan - he choose dortmund over us due to obvious reason
willian - never rate him much, looking at how he play at chelsea, never the kind of player we need.
sanchez - same reason with mikth, i guess no big name want to play for br
diego costa - he did not want to leave a.m ( he was so closed to join us had we pay more above his release clause!!!)

who else i miss?
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Xedne Shaqiri- i think everyone must have forotten him!!

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How about Alllllleeeeeeeennnnnnnn
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Allen can go fly kite somewhere else, Liverpool don't need a ball recycling player.
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Allen can go fly kite somewhere else, Liverpool don't need a ball recycling player.
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putting him on the pitch instantly shortened our avg midfielders height by 20%! Yeah we played midget Midfielders in the last 10 matches or more since Lucas injured.
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How about Alllllleeeeeeeennnnnnnn
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Allen has mastered the skill to be invisible in the game. He now has the basic requirement to join the ninja academy.
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putting him on the pitch instantly shortened our avg midfielders height by 20%! Yeah we played midget Midfielders in the last 10 matches or more since Lucas injured.
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I don't mind having midget Eriksen as our midfielder. biggrin.gif
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I don't mind having midget Eriksen as our midfielder.  biggrin.gif
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yeahhhh we missed that one too!!!!!!!!! arghh!!! dammit!!!!

btw Erikksen is not midget, he is taller than Allen
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 11:20 AM)
Allen has mastered the skill to be invisible in the game. He now has the basic requirement to join the ninja academy.
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Gerard is his new student this season.
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Gerard is his new student this season.
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i dont know why Gerrard continues to support BR. the stuff that makes Gerrard a dangerous player is missing :

1) burst of speed 1 vs 1 (probably gone becoz of age but u see him dumped there with 5 other midfielders it is easy to get lost in midfield traffic jam)
2) pin point cross the field crosses. it used to fall to a spot where players know it is going there and they get there to receive it. now it falls to players waiting and waiting and then they lose it to defenders waiting there with them lol. also ive seen lp players fail to connect with the cross these days. so pathetic.
3) headers inside the penalty box for corners (alonso used to take corners)
4) link up play with strikers (not his fault for this becoz there's no strikers lol)

if want to put conspiracy theory then ..i think it was BR masterplan all along to sabo SG since SG has more voice than him. Play SG in positions he would suck, let the confidence drain away and leave SG with just the shell of the player he used to be.


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allen did play well in some of the matches but certainly did not live up to his $18m price tag. erikksen is someone we really need but typical of br to completely ignore him.

for shaqiri, somehow i don't rate him that much. there are better options but it's a guess they willing to join us or not. any players who have seen our ucl campaign definitely gonna think twice
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 11:39 AM)
allen did play well in some of the matches but certainly did not live up to his $18m price tag. erikksen is someone we really need but typical of br to completely ignore him.

for shaqiri, somehow i don't rate him that much. there are better options but it's a guess they willing to join us or not. any players who have seen our ucl campaign definitely gonna think twice
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Put aside your support to Liverpool, and imagine if you're a top player, and Liverpool approach to buy you. Will you accept?

Looking at how BR buy player and let them rot on the bench, and loan them out, I definitely will think twice.
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Anyone read that Balo is out from Liverpool's Player of the Season vote?

Looks like someone is really trying really hard to make him the fall guy for Wodger's failure.

I'm with you Balo!
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 22 2015, 11:50 AM)
Put aside your support to Liverpool, and imagine if you're a top player, and Liverpool approach to buy you. Will you accept?

Looking at how BR buy player and let them rot on the bench, and loan them out, I definitely will think twice.
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reasons top players would like to join your club
1) trophy -trophyless in 3 seasons, the closest is a semifinal in fa cup and last season runner up.
2) manager cv - br have none in europe
3) money - liverpool stingy policy is a stumbling block
4) can manager improve your play - huge question mark
5) play with other great player - our last star gerrard is leaving
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 11:03 AM)
we always a few million short of signing big ones. blame it on Ian "Low Ball" Ayre.
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We need to buy big.

Enough with these 15-20mil players who perform like 2mil players.


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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 22 2015, 12:05 PM)
We need to buy big.

Enough with these 15-20mil players who perform like 2mil players.
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Take away Ayre, you can have a good negotiator to bring in big name, whatever it takes
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 22 2015, 11:50 AM)
Put aside your support to Liverpool, and imagine if you're a top player, and Liverpool approach to buy you. Will you accept?

Looking at how BR buy player and let them rot on the bench, and loan them out, I definitely will think twice.
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lol ..nobody will take the risk la .. get on the bad side of BR's ego ..thats it....

if ur player is not performing u dont drop the player for good. Look at Benteke he was not good last season. The season before he was awesome. This season he only started picking up pieces midway (change of Manager)

The missing piece in BR setup is individual brilliance from Sturridge&Suarez. Now he can't expect just anyone to replicate what Suarez or even magically form that Striker understanding with another striker.

Borini is not a bad striker, just that the team has never revolved around him
Balo made scapegoat, but when he plays u can see flashes of his game intelligence, but again ..with so few games under his belt, he'll take some time to gel with the team.
Lambert cant play in this setup meant for Sturridge & Suarez. No way. He's way out of his depth. He needs a more traditional english style setup to get the best of his type of play. He needs someone like SG to supply him with the goods.
Markovic sorry la ..this guy is rubbish. He didnt do much in his previous club and yet lp bought him for 20m lol .. Benfica sold an unproven player for 20m lol.




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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 12:06 PM)
Take away Ayre, you can have a good negotiator to bring in big name, whatever it takes
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BR also is a problem with his indecisive tactics. The villa game was embarrassing. Credit to Villa, they played really well.

But we were shite as well.

Balo should go. We need someone who can really play up front.

Can should be in holding midfield, not as a central Defender - he was poor in that position during the game v Villa.


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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 22 2015, 12:11 PM)
BR also is a problem with his indecisive tactics. The villa game was embarrassing. Credit to Villa, they played really well.

But we were shite as well.

Balo should go. We need someone who can really play up front.

Can should be in holding midfield, not as a central Defender - he was poor in that position during the game v Villa.
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come one bro, if a manager doesn't know how to utilize a stiker. the problem is not on the stiker. Check the state, who is the real striker and how many games he started for us? how many goals have our strike force contributed in this season comparing to our midfielders?
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 12:14 PM)
come one bro, if a manager doesn't know how to utilize a stiker. the problem is not on the stiker. Check the state, who is the real striker and how many games he started for us? how many goals have our strike force contributed in this season comparing to our midfielders?
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Balo still doesnt look like the player we need (or sometimes, want).


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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 12:14 PM)
come one bro, if a manager doesn't know how to utilize a stiker. the problem is not on the stiker. Check the state, who is the real striker and how many games he started for us? how many goals have our strike force contributed in this season comparing to our midfielders?
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We have good players. A decent manager will make good of them.

bye2

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 22 2015, 12:15 PM)
We have good players. A decent manager will make good of them.

bye2

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If Skertel gone, then can say bye bye to Mig, he doesn't want to get blamed for being a lesser than a vampire for out shitty defenders. LEL

BTW, Skertel said he is staying icon_rolleyes.gif
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mig should go ..useless GK. my warning from early 2014 already exposed his shit gameplay or rather BR's tactics. 5th place curse that i said then is coming true:(
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 11:17 AM)
greek defender Papa....los biggrin.gif smeth, lazy to spell a greek name
Xedne Shaqiri- i think everyone must have forotten him!!
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sokratis....damn underrated player. noticed him since 2010 when he was with AC Milan. yea. he's good. i think u guys shud go for him. cheap & quality i'd say.

all in all, manager problem lar... he was given the funds, he made the decision on who to sign rite? well, at least he gave the list of targets to Ian to purchase those players so that makes him responsible. 3 seasons in, the stats dont look good on him. but there's no news on his career is on the line so far though.

as for the lazada fler...a check in wiki reads:

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Serbian SuperLiga Team of the Year: 2011–12, 2012–13 [39]
SJPF Player of the Month: January 2014, February 2014[40]
UEFA Europa League: 2013–14 Squad of the season [41]

to make it in the team of the year thingie, surely that means he was doing good previously before becoming a bit part player wif ur club rite? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 22 2015, 12:19 PM)
sokratis....damn underrated player. noticed him since 2010 when he was with AC Milan. yea. he's good. i think u guys shud go for him. cheap & quality i'd say.

all in all, manager problem lar... he was given the funds, he made the decision on who to sign rite? well, at least he gave the list of targets to Ian to purchase those players so that makes him responsible. 3 seasons in, the stats dont look good on him. but there's no news on his career is on the line so far though.

as for the lazada fler...a check in wiki reads:

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Serbian SuperLiga Team of the Year: 2011–12, 2012–13 [39]
SJPF Player of the Month: January 2014, February 2014[40]
UEFA Europa League: 2013–14 Squad of the season [41]

to make it in the team of the year thingie, surely that means he was doing good previously before becoming a bit part player wif ur club rite?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 22 2015, 12:19 PM)
sokratis....damn underrated player. noticed him since 2010 when he was with AC Milan. yea. he's good. i think u guys shud go for him. cheap & quality i'd say.

all in all, manager problem lar... he was given the funds, he made the decision on who to sign rite? well, at least he gave the list of targets to Ian to purchase those players so that makes him responsible. 3 seasons in, the stats dont look good on him. but there's no news on his career is on the line so far though.

as for the lazada fler...a check in wiki reads:

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Serbian SuperLiga Team of the Year: 2011–12, 2012–13 [39]
SJPF Player of the Month: January 2014, February 2014[40]
UEFA Europa League: 2013–14 Squad of the season [41]

to make it in the team of the year thingie, surely that means he was doing good previously before becoming a bit part player wif ur club rite?  hmm.gif
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stats don't lie lol. he was touted as promising with the below stats lol ...what a joke

Club Season League Cup League Cup Continental Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Partizan 2010–11 1 0 0 0 — 0 0 1 0
2011–12 26 6 3 1 — 4 0 33 7
2012–13 19 7 0 0 — 12 0 31 7
Total 46 13 3 1 — 16 0 65 14
Benfica 2013–14 26 5 6 1 4 0 13 1 49 7
Liverpool 2014–15 17 2 3 0 5 1 4 0 29 3
Career total 89 20 12 2 9 1 33 1 143 24
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There r no rubbish players, but only rubbish managers. Thats what i believe in.
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 12:26 PM)
stats don't lie lol. he was touted as promising with the below stats lol ...what a joke

Club Season League Cup League Cup Continental Total
Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
Partizan 2010–11 1 0 0 0 — 0 0 1 0
2011–12 26 6 3 1 — 4 0 33 7
2012–13 19 7 0 0 — 12 0 31 7
Total 46 13 3 1 — 16 0 65 14
Benfica 2013–14 26 5 6 1 4 0 13 1 49 7
Liverpool 2014–15 17 2 3 0 5 1 4 0 29 3
Career total 89 20 12 2 9 1 33 1 143 24
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well, that says it all.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 12:24 PM)
There r no rubbish players, but only rubbish managers. Thats what i believe in.
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Does that mean Allen is not rubbish?

Which then reminds me, players..under Rafa who weren't rubbish. Maybe Rafa is rubbish to you?

Josemi
Dossena
Nunez

A few I can recall only lar.

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well, that says it all.
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exactly ..here's a guy who never scored more than 7 goals in all competitions in a single season ....
Benfica sure made good money out of him .....
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 12:31 PM)
Does that mean Allen is not rubbish?
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 12:31 PM)
Does that mean Allen is not rubbish?
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I know you are going to bring him up lol.

Dun get me wrong, Allen is a nice bloke and all that..the reason I like to pick on him is due to the fact that fans keep on overhyping him as the next big thing in Liverpool, despite being proven wrong repeatedly. And me just being myself...I like to challenge their adulation on Xavi n listen to theur side of story.

Like I said he is a squad player at best, nowhere near the hype he is billed at.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 12:31 PM)
Does that mean Allen is not rubbish?

Which then reminds me, players..under Rafa who weren't rubbish. Maybe Rafa is rubbish to you?

Josemi
Dossena
Nunez

A few I can recall only lar.
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You brought up the few players he signed who didnt turned out so well and then used it to counter against my statement, very slick.....BUT...

So by your logic every manager is rubbish because everyone has bad signings, right?

How many "bad signings" does Wodgers have, tell me?

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some players are rubbish ... Allen is rubbish. period.

Joe Allen was a young talent when he was brought over. ok la ..give him a chance to grow.

how many assists does he have under his belt? how many goals ? i think for liverpool since the day he started until last game ..he has a total of ZERO assist.

i just checked SG stats just now ... he still managed 1 assist .. this season

SG 2014/2015
24 Games 6 Goals 1 Assists 38 Shots

SG 2013/2014
34 Games 13 Goals 13 Assists 60 Shots

Joe Allen 2014/2015
19 Games 1 Goals 0 Assists 12 Shots

Joe Allen 2013/2014
24 Games 1 Goals 0 Assists 19 Shots

Joe Allen 2012 / 2013
27 Games 0 Goals 0 Assists 9 Shots

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 12:39 PM)
I know you are going to bring him up lol.

Dun get me wrong, Allen is a nice bloke and all that..the reason I like to pick on him is due to the fact that fans keep on overhyping him as the next big thing in Liverpool, despite being proven wrong repeatedly. And me just being myself...I like to challenge their adulation on Xavi n listen to theur side of story.

Like I said he is a squad player at best, nowhere near the hype he is billed at.
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Haha, of course he was hyped and everyone was excited when BR was appointed. Even BR has dropped him earlier this season.

Anyhow, let's see how BR close this season and will FSG keep him. If they do, guess you will be frustrated and angry for another season huh?
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 12:49 PM)
Haha, of course he was hyped and everyone was excited when BR was appointed. Even BR has dropped him earlier this season.

Anyhow, let's see how BR close this season and will FSG keep him. If they do, guess you will be frustrated and angry for another season huh?
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So, if BR stayed, we can't use "This season will be ours season"? oh man..
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 12:49 PM)
Haha, of course he was hyped and everyone was excited when BR was appointed. Even BR has dropped him earlier this season.

Anyhow, let's see how BR close this season and will FSG keep him. If they do, guess you will be frustrated and angry for another season huh?
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Lets be honest, Joe Allen is the epitome of everything that is wrong with Liverpool today.

Brit, overhyped, D.D.A.M.S. syndrome, (die die also must sapport), more time, young with lots of potential and that led to managers buy players for 2025 and not now....

Frustrated? You bet. Good managers will have my support but not lousy managers. If im supporting the wrong cause, means im doing a disservice to the club. If im supporting a clueless git at the throne , means im ruining my own kingdom.


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Nicely put. But I don't know if couple of fans knew what you said
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 12:58 PM)
So, if BR stayed, we can't use "This season will be ours season"? oh man..
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Always saw rival fans said that as not much Liv fans dare to say that anymore.


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sarcasm?  laugh.gif

Always saw rival fans said that as not much Liv fans dare to say that anymore.
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Next season will be our season! Oh waiiitt... cry.gif
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Just make sure next season don't finish 2nd. Because the team always seem to fakap the following season when they finish 2nd laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Just make sure next season don't finish 2nd. Because the team always seem to fakap the following season when they finish 2nd laugh.gif laugh.gif
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So u mean finish first as the champion lor?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA tongue.gif
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So u mean finish first as the champion lor?

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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 04:42 PM)
next season finish champion with br? we need 2 suarez liao
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we had one....BR sold him
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 22 2015, 04:33 PM)
So u mean finish first as the champion lor?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  tongue.gif
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Can finish 3rd or 4th also maa laugh.gif laugh.gif That 2nd spot is cursed though

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we had one....BR sold him
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 22 2015, 04:49 PM)
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Not so fast. Been wishing we have our own Messi.

KD gave it to us.

BR send him off....for wuteva reason that might be.
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Not so fast. Been wishing we have our own Messi.

KD gave it to us.

BR send him off....for wuteva reason that might be.
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Barcelona now have 2 Messi, 2 Suarez.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 22 2015, 04:55 PM)
Barcelona now have 2 Messi, 2 Suarez.
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maybe if Barca win all the competition this year, we can get back our Suarez??
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maybe if Barca win all the competition this year, we can get back our Suarez??
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Why Barca would let him go?
How to afford Suarez back?

But I also think that Barca could win all competition this season.
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The prodigal son returns to England .....but stops in Manchester .....

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/57...hester-City-job

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The prodigal son returns to England .....but stops in Manchester .....

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/57...hester-City-job
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Why Barca would let him go?
How to afford Suarez back?

But I also think that Barca could win all competition this season.
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I miss Mark Gonzalez.

Really a explosive winger !

Fast, brave enuf to run along the left and powerful long shot.


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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 12:48 PM)
some players are rubbish ... Allen is rubbish. period.

Joe Allen was a young talent when he was brought over. ok la ..give him a chance to grow.

how many assists does he have under his belt? how many goals ? i think for liverpool since the day he started until last game ..he has a total of ZERO assist.

i just checked SG stats just now ... he still managed 1 assist .. this season

SG 2014/2015
24 Games  6 Goals  1 Assists  38 Shots

SG 2013/2014
34 Games  13 Goals  13 Assists  60 Shots

Joe Allen 2014/2015
19 Games  1 Goals  0 Assists  12 Shots

Joe Allen 2013/2014
24 Games  1 Goals  0 Assists  19 Shots

Joe Allen 2012 / 2013
27 Games  0 Goals  0 Assists  9 Shots
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To Me, allen is better if plays as attacking midfield.

He got Fast acceleration, good short passing 1-1 and active.

Too bad, br always plays him as defending midfielder.
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we really should go back to Rafa, or Klopp.

Kick Ayre out (oh wait, rumours are he is going to leave end of this season, not sure if that's true)


and most importantly, above everything else, BROUT!
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Apr 22 2015, 05:14 PM)
To Me, allen is better if plays as attacking midfield.

He got Fast acceleration, good short passing 1-1 and active.

Too bad, br always plays him as defending midfielder.
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u know last season Gerrard was mostly DM yet he chalked up 13 assists ....

Henderson with all his wasteful runs, headless chicken attitude he still managed a couple of goals and 8 assists.

Lucas has 0 assists too but he's a poor man's Mascherano. He has a role to play to break up plays.

What about Allen ? what is his role ?


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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 22 2015, 05:25 PM)
we really should go back to Rafa, or Klopp.

Kick Ayre out (oh wait, rumours are he is going to leave end of this season, not sure if that's true)
and most importantly, above everything else, BROUT!
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owners are afraid to hire Rafa so don't count on him ever returning .....plus he's probably gonna be MC interim manager next season
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owners are afraid to hire Rafa so don't count on him ever returning .....plus he's probably gonna be MC interim manager next season
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not if we snatch him back first.

Rafa spends a lot of money, but at least he won cups.

Heck, put a CL into that.


this stupid Brendan, used up so much, and we got what? NOTHING.
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Don't forget to change the transfer committee as well, always buy various type of player that can't fit in the team.

If not, next potential manager gonna suffer by this crap transfer dealing as well.


Especially RB, during his day at valencia, he rant at media on his chairman on transfer dealing, "I want to buy a table, but he give me a lamp"

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To Me, allen is better if plays as attacking midfield.

He got Fast acceleration, good short passing 1-1 and active.

Too bad, br always plays him as defending midfielder.
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allen vs herrera, which one you choose
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 22 2015, 05:32 PM)
not if we snatch him back first.

Rafa spends a lot of money, but at least he won cups.

Heck, put a CL into that.
this stupid Brendan, used up so much, and we got what? NOTHING.
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Rafa spent a lot of money, but he delivered one CL trophy, FA cup, and another CL final, and become a force in Europe stage, instead of more like minnow under BR.

Rafa, at least there were good players signed, Alonso, Garcia, Torres, Mascherano, Skrtel.

BR signed player only have Coutinho who look promising (still blow hot and cold), the rest mostly loan out or squad player that some can't even make into the bench or average midtable type of players.
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Why Barca would let him go?
How to afford Suarez back?

But I also think that Barca could win all competition this season.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 22 2015, 05:32 PM)
not if we snatch him back first.

Rafa spends a lot of money, but at least he won cups.

Heck, put a CL into that.
this stupid Brendan, used up so much, and we got what? NOTHING.
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He finish 2nd, he made into CL.

He brought the best out of Suarez, which make his price tag sky rocket. Without BR, Suarez is a nobody.

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WE R SCREWED

FSG: NO PLANS TO SACK WODGERS


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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 06:22 PM)
Alrdy knew were screwed when they sign midtable team manager...no suprised.

Even back then we had no choice...they were talking br n martinez.
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just for fun...these are all the players who were sold or left for greener pastures with teams still in the CL - reina, arbeloa, masch, alonso, torres, suarez.
dropping down to the europa league, we got - aquilani, aspas...and rafa biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 05:26 PM)
u know last season Gerrard was mostly DM yet he chalked up 13 assists ....

Henderson with all his wasteful runs, headless chicken attitude he still managed a couple of goals and 8 assists.

Lucas has 0 assists too but he's a poor man's Mascherano. He has a role to play to break up plays.

What about Allen ? what is his role ?
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His role is to be invisible man whistling.gif

QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 22 2015, 05:32 PM)
not if we snatch him back first.

Rafa spends a lot of money, but at least he won cups.

Heck, put a CL into that.
this stupid Brendan, used up so much, and we got what? NOTHING.
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Would love Rafe to return but i highly doubt that FSG will hired him. FSG know Rafa is not a yes man and has a history of fighting with owner. Quite a number of fan still very supportive toward Rafa. FSG will not risk bring a manager that had the fan support and will go against them, it will be a disaster for FSG. They prefer a yes man like BR.

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what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 05:26 PM)
u know last season Gerrard was mostly DM yet he chalked up 13 assists ....

Henderson with all his wasteful runs, headless chicken attitude he still managed a couple of goals and 8 assists.

Lucas has 0 assists too but he's a poor man's Mascherano. He has a role to play to break up plays.

What about Allen ? what is his role ?
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Mostly enemy were marking Suarez.. laugh.gif

btw, Liverpool must buy a world-class striker... sweat.gif

QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 05:50 PM)
allen vs herrera, which one you choose
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Herrera ! biggrin.gif

btw allen is just normal player..nothing to shout..
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what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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I don't think it is a good idea at all.
FSG saved the club on the brink of financial difficulty.
Also, FSG has done a lot of good work to the club, as compared to previous period.

The slump has a lot of to do with failure in transfer dealing, if there is no top manager available, sticking with BR may the better option in worst scenario.
Hiring another midtable manager is not a good option.

No club will announce the sacking of their manager at this period of time as well as before any plan of succession has ironed out.
There is no benefit to tell media about the manager position whether he is on the brink or not.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 08:29 PM)
what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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not happening. first they cleared the debts, turn LFC financial around and not got huge Anfield expansion project on going. I just want them to change their philosophy around only. nothing much nothing less.
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BR going mad, opened talks for immobile who has only scored 3 goals this season... and price of an amazing 17m.
only reason i can think of signing him is either balo is feeling lonely or hes resigned to losing sterling.
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No club will announce the sacking of their manager at this period of time as well as before any plan of succession has ironed out.
There is no benefit to tell media about the manager position whether he is on the brink or not.
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Moyes was sacked exactly 1yr ago today.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 22 2015, 10:30 PM)
BR going mad, opened talks for immobile who has only scored 3 goals this season... and price of an amazing 17m.
only reason i can think of signing him is either balo is feeling lonely or hes resigned to losing sterling.
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He wants to form Italian Strike force!!!

inb4 both of take warming the bench eating pizza
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He wants to form Italian Strike force!!!

inb4 both of take warming the bench eating pizza
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both? u forgot borini ah? 3some force.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 22 2015, 10:36 PM)
Moyes was sacked exactly 1yr ago today.
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Look where they are now

Acknowledge failure as failures or history will repeat itself. Funny history channel team kenot learn from history.

Sack the King and gamble club reputation on a noob manager.

I dont car LFC got debt or not...play good football first and money will come later.


or.....money comes first and good football later

its already starting.....15-20 mil for a lovren. imagine if we wanna get a suarez.

o wait...we had him
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In FM, when club issues this statement, the manager will be sacked soon....... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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can anyone name me which 7 players is a success? i can only put coutinho, sturridge, Can and maybe lallana. the likes of sakho, mignolet and toure are too inconsistent to be call a success.
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Well, it's has been put that those other players are generally still young and need to be given time to mature, even rodgers. They said wenger, fergie, mourino, ancelotti all have so much experience...


So it MAY take another 5-10 years for Rodgers to be MORE experience. Sabar rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

The hot seat at Liverpool is slowly being filled with air of disappointment. Liverpoolfc management needs to reevaluate within. That's how some of us feel. We saw thru that 'traveling medicine man' methods. Sure he somehow made FSG wet in their pants with his dossier. Maybe FSG then was still a virgin in football in general then.

You can work hard with all the commercial deals but ultimately the success on the pitch will mean more, more exposure for the corporate partners, sponsors etc. Winning trophies can be a start, winning bigger trophies away from (just) league cup will be a great start towards recovery for our club to climb back to the big clubs, literally! It's where we belong. When we lost Adidas as a partner, I knew we were heading the wrong tunnel. Adidas pointed reality to us, but we deemed the warrior/new balance money was greater. Fine, poorer marchandise quality sold to fans to make more money. I prefer Adidas marchandise quality.

Rodgers can try experiment with (so called) revolutionary tactics, in the semi final, apparently he tried with 4 different formations to try to make "Liverpool on that day work". rclxub.gif if there is any evidence in a single match for all to see "Brendan Rodgers is found out". Don't need a magnifying glass to see the faults is as large as the Pacific ocean.

Rodgers has never been able to imposed against experience managers regularly and now even lower teams seems to be able to pick up yards of space at Liverpool gameplay. doh.gif doh.gif adoi sad.gif sad.gif

The win at Newcastle beforehand was a smokescreen, Newcastle has been awful

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Football expert Guillem Balague says Rafa Benitez will not renew his contract with Napoli, but he can't see the Spaniard returning to Anfield anytime soon.

Talking on Sky Sports, Balague said:

“I don’t think Rafa is going to renew his contract with Napoli. I do think he’s waiting for a chance in England. There won’t be many available, with Man City and Newcastle the only likely clubs. I believe both of those teams would interest him. In the case of Liverpool, I still think the board feels he’s too big for them – not for the club but for the directors.

“I still think there is a little bit of fear about what he brings. In my eyes he’s a man that can improve a club and a squad. It obviously sounds like Brendan is going to stay but if one day they decide to get rid of him I would love for Rafa to go back to Liverpool.

“But with the same owners still in charge, the same owners who contacted dozens of coaches at the same time as Brendan of which Rafa wasn’t included, means they probably won’t give him a chance.”



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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 23 2015, 12:38 AM)
Look where they are now

Acknowledge failure as failures or history will repeat itself. Funny history channel team kenot learn from history.

Sack the King and gamble club reputation on a noob manager.

I dont car LFC got debt or not...play good football first and money will come later.
or.....money comes first and good football later

its already starting.....15-20 mil for a lovren. imagine if we wanna get a suarez.

o wait...we had him
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Kenny's sacking was largely due to his splurging on British stars, the performance on the pitch did not justified his cause. The sacking of Comolli kinda served as a pre-cursor of things to come. Yes, he stabled the ship when he first came in, but he failed to replicate that same form in the following season, despite our good run in cup competitions.

Also, Kenny's warrior personality did not bode well with the Yanks which eventually led to his outcome. Which makes me think that there's a slim chance Rafa will be rehired. FSG had that window of opportunity in 2012 but they decided to look for Brad Pitt n Jonah Hill.

I dont think they will have it easy with Klopp either. Gone are the days where seasoned old geezers like Hiddink, Scolari n Redknapp r at the preferred list, I can see a new trend of managers emerging; dynamic, young, modern thinkers like Klinsmann, Villa Boas, Pep, Simeone, Pochettino, Klopp. (Non of them holds a British paspport btw.)

And FSG thought they have found a jewel in Wodgers....

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Football expert Guillem Balague says Rafa Benitez will not renew his contract with Napoli, but he can't see the Spaniard returning to Anfield anytime soon.

Talking on Sky Sports, Balague said:

“I don’t think Rafa is going to renew his contract with Napoli. I do think he’s waiting for a chance in England. There won’t be many available, with Man City and Newcastle the only likely clubs. I believe both of those teams would interest him. In the case of Liverpool, I still think the board feels he’s too big for them – not for the club but for the directors.

“I still think there is a little bit of fear about what he brings. In my eyes he’s a man that can improve a club and a squad. It obviously sounds like Brendan is going to stay but if one day they decide to get rid of him I would love for Rafa to go back to Liverpool.

“But with the same owners still in charge, the same owners who contacted dozens of coaches at the same time as Brendan of which Rafa wasn’t included, means they probably won’t give him a chance.”

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most of us too share the same sentiment, knowing that FSG not wanting rafa


We know that john henry too is a keen social media guy, when he flatly replied a firm 'NO' when a fellow lfc twitter fan posted a question to include rafa in the list of managers post dalglish, (review only mah, but they dont even want to evaluate)

i knew then rafa has zero chance, probably as the article above mentioned, not when the lfc directors are still smarting from what they deemed as rafa rocking lfc (turning the fans & media against the upper hierarchy of lfc even if it was the previous administrators).

dalglish removal to me was i felt it was the handling of suarez in light of the 'racism' case. I dont think the britishness buys bore dalglish ticket out (red card with the owners) but as much as it highlighted some failings (buys), it isnt as pathetic as ermmm well you know..





my theory on why the haggling of steerling contract is more of maybe perhaps the little chap just think BR isnt THAT manager to bring lfc and his career up.

as did perhaps some great explayers of ours somehow engineered out of liverpool and now winning throphies with other clubs. they love liverpool, they love the liverpool fans. but career wise, liverpool isnt steering itself upwards. sad.gif

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[code]Football expert Guillem Balague says Rafa Benitez will not renew his contract with Napoli, but he can't see the Spaniard returning to Anfield anytime soon.

Talking on Sky Sports, Balague said:

“I don’t think Rafa is going to renew his contract with Napoli. I do think he’s waiting for a chance in England. There won’t be many available, with Man City and Newcastle the only likely clubs. I believe both of those teams would interest him. In the case of Liverpool, I still think the board feels he’s too big for them – not for the club but for the directors.

“I still think there is a little bit of fear about what he brings. In my eyes he’s a man that can improve a club and a squad. It obviously sounds like Brendan is going to stay but if one day they decide to get rid of him I would love for Rafa to go back to Liverpool.

“But with the same owners still in charge, the same owners who contacted dozens of coaches at the same time as Brendan of which Rafa wasn’t included, means they probably won’t give him a chance.”[/code]
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which mean under Henry, his manager will never get fired, as in forever no matter he bad the the result or the manager relegated the team??

This journalist is either a comedian or first time watch BPL i guess.
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which mean under Henry, his manager will never get fired, as in forever no matter he bad the the result or the manager relegated the team??

This journalist is either a comedian or first time watch BPL i guess.
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that line suggest rafa will (probably) NEVER be considered as long as they in charge (for reasons i stated in the former post)
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Rafa is the only manager that bringing the best out of Gerrard....

Rodgers the manager who keep on bringing out the worst of Gerrard..

Don't worry, Klopp got this.....It's all in the plan
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that line suggest rafa will (probably) NEVER be considered as long as they in charge (for reasons i stated in the former post)
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With that kind of ego, i doubt they want to slap themselves in their faces by firing BR this season.
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With that kind of ego, i doubt they want to slap themselves in their faces by firing BR this season.
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"the carefully chosen one"

yes, i have already said it will be like FSG tripping themselves after carefully evaluating the managerial vacancy despite a host of good managers out there post dalglish.


While it may never is never, rodgers position is to be reviewed. Of course they might relook into his 180 dossier where is went wrong.

Only then sweat.gif

while i would not guarantee rodgers position is 100% safe. I think he will need to come out with Brendan Rodgers Dossier vs1.2. whistling.gif

will see if FSG will buy into it again sweat.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 23 2015, 10:40 AM)
"the carefully chosen one"

yes, i have already said it will be like FSG tripping themselves after carefully evaluating the managerial vacancy despite a host of good managers out there post dalglish.
While it may never is never, rodgers position is to be reviewed. Of course they might relook into his 180 dossier where is went wrong.

Only then  sweat.gif

while i would not guarantee rodgers position is 100% safe. I think he will need to come out with Brendan Rodgers Dossier vs1.2.  whistling.gif

will see if FSG will buy into it again  sweat.gif
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well, that's dangerous that when a manager forever feel his job is secured and make him lack of motivation for improvement. He needs to lite a fire under his ass all the time
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 23 2015, 10:28 AM)
With that kind of ego, i doubt they want to slap themselves in their faces by firing BR this season.
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its not called firing.
its called 'mutual seperation' whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 23 2015, 11:10 AM)
its not called firing.
its called 'mutual seperation'  whistling.gif
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either way, just go.

eh why change avatar? you killed mojojo?
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either way, just go.

eh why change avatar? you killed mojojo?
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cannot just go.
later we get shebby how?

mojo cannot fight goat of prosperity.

anyway no manager will come la.
no stars to work with also.
and speaking of wages... whistling.gif
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Premier League wage table revealed: Chelsea punching above their weight - but Southampton biggest over-achievers


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...evealed-5560964
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looks like the prodigal son is not returning anytime soon tongue.gif

Rafa Benítez rules out return to Premier League to coach Manchester City
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 23 2015, 11:22 AM)
cannot just go.
later we get shebby how?

mojo cannot fight goat of prosperity.

anyway no manager will come la.
no stars to work with also.
and speaking of wages...  whistling.gif
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...evealed-5560964
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after this season

[WTS]
Southampton players, lelong lelong.




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after this season

[WTS]
Southampton players, lelong lelong.
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no la.
[WTS] ex-southampton player Lambert, like new! hardly used! bargain buy!
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 23 2015, 11:26 AM)
no la.
[WTS] ex-southampton player Lambert, like new! hardly used! bargain buy!
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that one send straight to retirement after next year.
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So....we are where we should be? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 23 2015, 11:36 AM)
So....we are where we should be?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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i like what u said tongue.gif. Had we spend 100 m more we will by champs.
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So....we are where we should be?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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or southampton arent meant to be where they're at.
guess thats what a good manager does whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 23 2015, 11:41 AM)
or southampton arent meant to be where they're at.
guess thats what a good manager does  whistling.gif
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orh a good manager who spend 170m pounds currently at 4th place whistling.gif
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orh a good manager who spend 170m pounds currently at 4th place whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 23 2015, 12:01 PM)
4th? u mean 2nd?
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orh yeah hor LEL
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Guillem Balague is certainly no comedian in the world of football pundit..

I think the name deserves a bit of more recognition here.
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I don't think it is a good idea at all.
FSG saved the club on the brink of financial difficulty.
Also, FSG has done a lot of good work to the club, as compared to previous period.

The slump has a lot of to do with failure in transfer dealing, if there is no top manager available, sticking with BR may the better option in worst scenario.
Hiring another midtable manager is not a good option.

No club will announce the sacking of their manager at this period of time as well as before any plan of succession has ironed out.
There is no benefit to tell media about the manager position whether he is on the brink or not.
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They just need someone who can live with the shit TC brought in during transfers.

FSG is in to make money...not make good football team
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highly doubt FSG will hire a world class manager because they need to prepare 2 things.. first top end manager contract, second backing him with 100-200mil transfer kitty + wage. At this moment Liverpool simply cant afford it, but what FSG can do it is.. slap transfer commitee and make sure they sign atleast 2 world class players. Work around core players and get rid of all the surplus should be the target for LFC in the summer
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Might as we ll abolish transfer committee entirely, for the last 3 years, the transfer dealing was poor mostly, be it identifying good player or wages negotiation or ability to sign targeted players.
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Might as we ll abolish transfer committee entirely, for the last 3 years, the transfer dealing was poor mostly, be it identifying good player or wages negotiation or ability to sign targeted players.
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Might as we ll abolish transfer committee entirely, for the last 3 years, the transfer dealing was poor mostly, be it identifying good player or wages negotiation or ability to sign targeted players.
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was about to mention this but........ sweat.gif

yeelong not exactly lar...if that really happens, at least he admit mistake & determine to correct his mistake mah. same like wat kayu kena lastime when he took over frm david gill. he oso kena frm lotsa ppl on the trsf wat. luk wat happen now?
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was about to mention this but........  sweat.gif

yeelong not exactly lar...if that really happens, at least he admit mistake & determine to correct his mistake mah. same like wat kayu kena lastime when he took over frm david gill. he oso kena frm lotsa ppl on the trsf wat. luk wat happen now?
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i haven't heard that from them in last 3 years about their weird transfer policy. If they seriously want to compete and change their transfer policies bring in real good talents to turn the team around. then i will buy 2 kits next year.
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i haven't heard that from them in last 3 years about their weird transfer policy. If they seriously want to compete and change their transfer policies bring in real good talents to turn the team around. then i will buy 2 kits next year.
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oi, who wud in their right frame of mind admit their own mistake publicly lar? sweat.gif dun look that far in bpl, look at our local *ahem* u oso can see edi lar. all same pattern wan.
just found an interesting article, if it's not alrdy posted here before. here goes.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...verpool-3020975

on the above article, if they can spend $300m on 2 players saja, i'm sure they got quite a deep poket liaw. brows.gif brows.gif

better start saving now to buy 2 news kits next year bah. laugh.gif
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oi, who wud in their right frame of mind admit their own mistake publicly lar?  sweat.gif dun look that far in bpl, look at our local *ahem* u oso can see edi lar. all same pattern wan.
just found an interesting article, if it's not alrdy posted here before. here goes.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...verpool-3020975

on the above article, if they can spend $300m on 2 players saja, i'm sure they got quite a deep poket liaw.  brows.gif  brows.gif

better start saving now to buy 2 news kits next year bah.  laugh.gif
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There is no need to admin the mistake publicly, just abolish the transfer committee and set a new course for the transfer dealing.

Just like how LVG abandoned 3 at the back formation, the team improve dramatically since then.
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oi, who wud in their right frame of mind admit their own mistake publicly lar?  sweat.gif dun look that far in bpl, look at our local *ahem* u oso can see edi lar. all same pattern wan.
just found an interesting article, if it's not alrdy posted here before. here goes.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...verpool-3020975

on the above article, if they can spend $300m on 2 players saja, i'm sure they got quite a deep poket liaw.  brows.gif  brows.gif

better start saving now to buy 2 news kits next year bah.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 23 2015, 02:35 PM)
There is no need to admin the mistake publicly, just abolish the transfer committee and set a new course for the transfer dealing.

Just like how LVG abandoned 3 at the back formation, the team improve dramatically since then.
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agreed on the bolded part. i think ur club is the only one that has a "committee" for the transfer dealings while other clubs all done by one fler saja eg. MD/DoF.

had to do 3 at the back previously cos lvg still testing bestest formation for the players that he has back then due to the injuries to the squad.
but just last weekend the injury curse seems to be back again. 4 defenders out doh.gif doh.gif
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how come nobody talking about buying tickets for the july match in the national stadium? The tickets started selling this morning.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 23 2015, 02:41 PM)
agreed on the bolded part. i think ur club is the only one that has a "committee" for the transfer dealings while other clubs all done by one fler saja eg. MD/DoF.

had to do 3 at the back previously cos lvg still testing bestest formation for the players that he has back then due to the injuries to the squad.
but just last weekend the injury curse seems to be back again. 4 defenders out  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Well Chelsea has Michael Emenalo ma. He always helped Chelsea close deal. But honestly speaking he had helped Chelsea to recruit many talents in recent years. nod.gif

Difference is that Chelsea have one man instead of a department laa..

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Well Chelsea has Michael Emenalo ma. He always helped Chelsea close deal. But honestly speaking he had helped Chelsea to recruit many talents in recent years. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 23 2015, 02:50 PM)
Well Chelsea has Michael Emenalo ma. He always helped Chelsea close deal. But honestly speaking he had helped Chelsea to recruit many talents in recent years. nod.gif

Difference is that Chelsea have one man instead of a department laa..
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Micheal Emenalo scouting skill + Roman's $$$$$ = success!!!

without the $$$, you can't close the deal also
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^ Micheal Emenalo = nigerian.

le fu~

inb4 nigerian, yuno scam roman $$$ tongue.gif
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yea, exactly my point. instead of a "committee", it's done by an individual of the higher-ups.
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Maybe different clubs have their own ways of handling things.. Emenalo is the technical director. Appoint KD as technical director la. brows.gif

QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 23 2015, 02:53 PM)
Micheal Emenalo scouting skill + Roman's $$$$$ = success!!!

without the $$$, you can't close the deal also
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HAHAHAH! Yes without money cannot close, but if I'm not mistaken the money we use to buy in recent years are all the untungs from the sales of players. Only academy was invested heavily during last 3 years.
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how come nobody talking about buying tickets for the july match in the national stadium? The tickets started selling this morning.
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how come nobody talking about buying tickets for the july match in the national stadium? The tickets started selling this morning.
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from where? The marketing department is not doing their job. doh.gif
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walao.... u love the club or the player? biggrin.gif


QUOTE(melt @ Apr 23 2015, 03:04 PM)
from where? The marketing department is not doing their job.  doh.gif
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the public sale starts on saturday. this morning is ticketpro or scb card members.

anyhow, i cant wait for the new season to start. this season is such a "failure"..... rclxub.gif
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walao.... u love the club or the player?  biggrin.gif
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how come nobody talking about buying tickets for the july match in the national stadium? The tickets started selling this morning.
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cos cheapest ticket is rm88? last time they came was rm38.
better go watch lfc masters vs mu masters for fun in shah alam stadium on aug30.
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cos cheapest ticket is rm88? last time they came was rm38.
better go watch lfc masters vs mu masters for fun in shah alam stadium on aug30.
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Seriously this time how come no special offer for standchart Card members hmm.gif
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walao.... u love the club or the player?  biggrin.gif
the public sale starts on saturday. this morning is ticketpro or scb card members.

anyhow, i cant wait for the new season to start. this season is such a "failure".....  rclxub.gif
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The club is something coz of the players & fans/supporters.
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cos cheapest ticket is rm88? last time they came was rm38.
better go watch lfc masters vs mu masters for fun in shah alam stadium on aug30.
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price including GST?
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Any student here?

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just for fun, here's the 2011 prices compared to the 2015.
see the dark green and orange zones have more than doubled in price.
maybe later they do malaysian special, discount 50%...but still pay more than before tongue.gif

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As the old adage goes, "the club comes first".

There's no doubt that in modern football, a lot of emphasis has been placed on the buying and selling of players. It's rare these days for top clubs to promote from within when they can circumvent time and effort simply by buying "finish products". When I say this I don't only refer to proven players but also young lads that have been groomed since they were as young as 8 and already posses some degree of ability. With the increasing emphasis on players therefore, it's sometimes difficult to place the club first. To some, the player defines the club when it should be the other way around. It isn't therefore incomprehensible that there are fans who switch allegiances when another club with better players begins to achieve more success than theirs.

I just think that it is every more important for us to find a deeper reason for supporting the club. For me, it's about "The Liverpool Way", it's about Shanks and the foundation he built this club on, it's about the unwavering support shown by our fans (singing even in defeat - Istanbul anyone?), and lastly, it's about history and all the wonderful stories associated with the club (Shankly never turning down a kickabout session with the kids even inviting strangers into his home to talk football, Carra buying fans tickets to Istanbul, the mighty Spion Kop, players and managers attending numerous funerals after Hillsborough, Shankly offering Matt Busby 5 first team players after the latter's squad was decimated during the Munich Air Disaster; offering to pay for their wages as well), there are just too many.

Players and managers come and go but all that I've mentioned above, stays forever.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Apr 23 2015, 02:41 PM)
agreed on the bolded part. i think ur club is the only one that has a "committee" for the transfer dealings while other clubs all done by one fler saja eg. MD/DoF.

had to do 3 at the back previously cos lvg still testing bestest formation for the players that he has back then due to the injuries to the squad.
but just last weekend the injury curse seems to be back again. 4 defenders out  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Same with businesses, a company with 2 or 3 boss a lot of time operation won't be smooth one.
One head want to do thing via north, one wants via south, another one wants east way.
End result, delay in decision making, poor decision made.

Previously there were plenty of players being linked but fail to strike the deal sums up the "committee" effectiveness.

More head /= better decision.

Just like a snake with a 2 or 3 heads won't work well one. laugh.gif (just joking)

That's why 99% company out there being led by 1 CEO instead a committee.
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Just like a snake with a 2 or 3 heads won't work well one.  laugh.gif (just joking)

That's why 99% company out there being led by 1 CEO instead a committee.
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"Hail, Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off a head, and two more shall take its place!
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sounds like the terms used frequently by those dupe armies in /k laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 23 2015, 04:07 PM)
As the old adage goes, "the club comes first".

There's no doubt that in modern football, a lot of emphasis has been placed on the buying and selling of players. It's rare these days for top clubs to promote from within when they can circumvent time and effort simply by buying "finish products". When I say this I don't only refer to proven players but also young lads that have been groomed since they were as young as 8 and already posses some degree of ability. With the increasing emphasis on players therefore, it's sometimes difficult to place the club first. To some, the player defines the club when it should be the other way around. It isn't therefore incomprehensible that there are fans who switch allegiances when another club with better players begins to achieve more success than theirs.

I just think that it is every more important for us to find a deeper reason for supporting the club. For me, it's about "The Liverpool Way", it's about Shanks and the foundation he built this club on, it's about the unwavering support shown by our fans (singing even in defeat - Istanbul anyone?), and lastly, it's about history and all the wonderful stories associated with the club (Shankly never turning down a kickabout session with the kids even inviting strangers into his home to talk football, Carra buying fans tickets to Istanbul, the mighty Spion Kop, players and managers attending numerous funerals after Hillsborough, Shankly offering Matt Busby 5 first team players after the latter's squad was decimated during the Munich Air Disaster; offering to pay for their wages as well), there are just too many.

Players and managers come and go but all that I've mentioned above, stays forever.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 23 2015, 04:07 PM)
As the old adage goes, "the club comes first".

There's no doubt that in modern football, a lot of emphasis has been placed on the buying and selling of players. It's rare these days for top clubs to promote from within when they can circumvent time and effort simply by buying "finish products". When I say this I don't only refer to proven players but also young lads that have been groomed since they were as young as 8 and already posses some degree of ability. With the increasing emphasis on players therefore, it's sometimes difficult to place the club first. To some, the player defines the club when it should be the other way around. It isn't therefore incomprehensible that there are fans who switch allegiances when another club with better players begins to achieve more success than theirs.

I just think that it is every more important for us to find a deeper reason for supporting the club. For me, it's about "The Liverpool Way", it's about Shanks and the foundation he built this club on, it's about the unwavering support shown by our fans (singing even in defeat - Istanbul anyone?), and lastly, it's about history and all the wonderful stories associated with the club (Shankly never turning down a kickabout session with the kids even inviting strangers into his home to talk football, Carra buying fans tickets to Istanbul, the mighty Spion Kop, players and managers attending numerous funerals after Hillsborough, Shankly offering Matt Busby 5 first team players after the latter's squad was decimated during the Munich Air Disaster; offering to pay for their wages as well), there are just too many.

Players and managers come and go but all that I've mentioned above, stays forever.
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sounds like the terms used frequently by those dupe armies in /k  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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We can sing YNWA all we want now...but it was good players n footie dat won us istanbul.

the things i say abt the club is bcoz i care. For the good of the club
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Do you think if the fans left at half time, we will even score the first goal?

After Gerrard headed in the first goal, what did he do after giving a high five to Riise for the cross?

That was how important singing and cheering is. You can't take the credit away from the fans who travelled to Istanbul.
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Do you guys know what I think about BR plan next season?

1. He will ship out at least 5 players out, then bring in a few new player.
2. Then he will have the reason to state that new player need time to gel.
3. Rebuild.

or

1. Gerrard left, Sterling left, Skrtel left.
2. My best player left, I will need time to rebuild.
3. Rebuild.


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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 23 2015, 05:38 PM)
Do you think if the fans left at half time, we will even score the first goal?

After Gerrard headed in the first goal, what did he do after giving a high five to Riise for the cross?

That was how important singing and cheering is. You can't take the credit away from the fans who travelled to Istanbul.
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Why dont they sing at half-time against Villa the other day?

Can that fix bad strategy by BR?

Im not saying anything against the kop in instanbul. But thinkin more cheering as a solution to bad strategy is wrong.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 23 2015, 05:45 PM)
Do you guys know what I think about BR plan next season?

1. He will ship out at least 5 players out, then bring in a few new player.
2. Then he will have the reason to state that new player need time to gel.
3. Rebuild.

or

1. Gerrard left, Sterling left, Skrtel left.
2. My best player left, I will need time to rebuild.
3. Rebuild.
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Jose Enrique – £3 million
Kolo Toure – Released
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Mario Balotelli – £12 million

Rebuild? So the first 3 years since BR signing hes been doing wut? Trial n error? Wut is LFC? Bad manager's footie philosophy testing ground?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 23 2015, 05:45 PM)
Do you guys know what I think about BR plan next season?

1. He will ship out at least 5 players out, then bring in a few new player.
2. Then he will have the reason to state that new player need time to gel.
3. Rebuild.

or

1. Gerrard left, Sterling left, Skrtel left.
2. My best player left, I will need time to rebuild.
3. Rebuild.
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Need to learn from atletico madrid on how to deal with losing key player. They used the money for another top player not a bunch of mediocres.... from torres to aguero to falcao to costa and now with mandzukic... n we are rumored to get mandzukic... hope its true...
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 23 2015, 05:45 PM)
Do you guys know what I think about BR plan next season?

1. He will ship out at least 5 players out, then bring in a few new player.
2. Then he will have the reason to state that new player need time to gel.
3. Rebuild.

or

1. Gerrard left, Sterling left, Skrtel left.
2. My best player left, I will need time to rebuild.
3. Rebuild.
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why not just simply BROUT??

i think at the end of the season if he failed to secured top 4. i can forsee the banner will be put on in the last few games
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Might as we ll abolish transfer committee entirely, for the last 3 years, the transfer dealing was poor mostly, be it identifying good player or wages negotiation or ability to sign targeted players.
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prolly FSG is playing the safe game but yes certainly we have enough of potential players in the club now. It is time to build around these core players..

we have good news Hendo already signed the contract
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Rodgers,

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So Rodgers remains, the arguement. Take that those haters  sweat.gif
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We can sing YNWA all we want now...but it was good players n footie dat won us istanbul.

the things i say abt the club is bcoz i care. For the good of the club
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Actually, we were somewhat fortuitous I must admit. Leading up to the final, it was actually our fringe players that scored important goals for us. Had Mellor and Sinama Pongolle not scored against Olympiacos, Gerrard's screamer would have meant little. Against Leverkusen, it was Igor Biscan that put in a stellar performance in the absence of Gerrard and Alonso. Whilst he may have been a fan favourite, Luis Garcia was also one of the more frustrating players to watch as he was guilty of being too fancy sometimes, but it was his superb strike against Juventus that carried us past them. Who would have thought? Against AC Milan, we were heavy underdogs on paper. I mean Harry Kewell had just returned from a season-long injury, and along with the likes of Djimi Traore, Vladimir Smicer, Milan Baros and Djibril Cisse, we hardly had a squad that would strike fear in the opposition. However this is what makes Istanbul so special and it will be a long time before we see a fairy tale like this unfold again. After we leveled, Milan battered us until the final whistle, and absolutely tore us apart for 80% of the match. Heck even Stevie had to drop to righback to nullify Serginho. One key substitution Rafa did make (and only because Finnan got injured) was to bring on Didi Hamann who had Kaka in his back pocket for the entire second half.

Can't discount the importance the 12th Man made that day. We outnumbered the Milan supporters and the half-time rendition of YNWA got too many whether in a positive or negative manner. It rattled Milan but more importantly, it rejuvenated the belief of the players (proven by the accounts they each gave after the match).

No doubting the best interest of the club is at the top of each of our minds, it's just we differ in what is actually best?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 24 2015, 02:01 PM)
Actually, we were somewhat fortuitous I must admit. Leading up to the final, it was actually our fringe players that scored important goals for us. Had Mellor and Sinama Pongolle not scored against Olympiacos, Gerrard's screamer would have meant little. Against Leverkusen, it was Igor Biscan that put in a stellar performance in the absence of Gerrard and Alonso. Whilst he may have been a fan favourite, Luis Garcia was also one of the more frustrating players to watch as he was guilty of being too fancy sometimes, but it was his superb strike against Juventus that carried us past them. Who would have thought? Against AC Milan, we were heavy underdogs on paper. I mean Harry Kewell had just returned from a season-long injury, and along with the likes of Djimi Traore, Vladimir Smicer, Milan Baros and Djibril Cisse, we hardly had a squad that would strike fear in the opposition. However this is what makes Istanbul so special and it will be a long time before we see a fairy tale like this unfold again. After we leveled, Milan battered us until the final whistle, and absolutely tore us apart for 80% of the match. Heck even Stevie had to drop to righback to nullify Serginho. One key substitution Rafa did make (and only because Finnan got injured) was to bring on Didi Hamann who had Kaka in his back pocket for the entire second half.

Can't discount the importance the 12th Man made that day. We outnumbered the Milan supporters and the half-time rendition of YNWA got too many whether in a positive or negative manner. It rattled Milan but more importantly, it rejuvenated the belief of the players (proven by the accounts they each gave after the match).

No doubting the best interest of the club is at the top of each of our minds, it's just we differ in what is actually best?
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Footie first. then we have something to cheer abt.

Somehow i think BR and the TC and the FSG is using this. thinking that we will cheer on and buy on wuteva shit they give us, for their own profit...regardless...coz we have pldged it ourselves to support them, red till we die. YNWA.

Theyre banking on that. Muricans are smart.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 24 2015, 02:01 PM)
Actually, we were somewhat fortuitous I must admit. Leading up to the final, it was actually our fringe players that scored important goals for us. Had Mellor and Sinama Pongolle not scored against Olympiacos, Gerrard's screamer would have meant little. Against Leverkusen, it was Igor Biscan that put in a stellar performance in the absence of Gerrard and Alonso. Whilst he may have been a fan favourite, Luis Garcia was also one of the more frustrating players to watch as he was guilty of being too fancy sometimes, but it was his superb strike against Juventus that carried us past them. Who would have thought? Against AC Milan, we were heavy underdogs on paper. I mean Harry Kewell had just returned from a season-long injury, and along with the likes of Djimi Traore, Vladimir Smicer, Milan Baros and Djibril Cisse, we hardly had a squad that would strike fear in the opposition. However this is what makes Istanbul so special and it will be a long time before we see a fairy tale like this unfold again. After we leveled, Milan battered us until the final whistle, and absolutely tore us apart for 80% of the match. Heck even Stevie had to drop to righback to nullify Serginho. One key substitution Rafa did make (and only because Finnan got injured) was to bring on Didi Hamann who had Kaka in his back pocket for the entire second half.

Can't discount the importance the 12th Man made that day. We outnumbered the Milan supporters and the half-time rendition of YNWA got too many whether in a positive or negative manner. It rattled Milan but more importantly, it rejuvenated the belief of the players (proven by the accounts they each gave after the match).

No doubting the best interest of the club is at the top of each of our minds, it's just we differ in what is actually best?
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wut do we do?? free transfer to LA Galaxy..

nvm...cheer on.
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wut do we do?? free transfer to LA Galaxy..

nvm...cheer on.
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First, need to get rid of BR who doesn't know how to proper utilize G. if BR out, then get someone who know how to utilize G. Then loan G back from LA Galaxy during their break like what City did to Lampard.

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 24 2015, 02:43 PM)
First, need to get rid of BR who doesn't know how to proper utilize G. if BR out, then get someone who know how to utilize G. Then loan G back from LA Galaxy during their break like what City did to Lampard.

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Wot, BR is the best man for Liverpool and the word came from BR himself. laugh.gif

http://www.espnfcasia.com/liverpool/story/...e-liverpool-job
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Can the club hire a PR manager to speak in interview?
Lot of his word have been backfired severely previously......

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Wot, BR is the best man for Liverpool and the word came from BR himself.  laugh.gif

http://www.espnfcasia.com/liverpool/story/...e-liverpool-job
Can the club hire a PR manager to speak in interview?
Lot of his word have been backfired severely previously......

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Now BR is the best man for Liverpool...  rclxub.gif
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You got to respect him for his thickness of his face, macam wall of China yoh.

His interview all back fired, yet he's still so calm in handling all the interview.
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To be fair, I think every manager says the same thing when they are under pressure. I've yet to see a manager admit that he's a poor choice and the board should sack him. This is the first sign that a manager is feeling the heat. Rafa went through the same process but he progressed to the next stage where he started arguing with the owners and taking a swipe at his players by continuously citing that he needed better players which did no amount of good to their confidence. This is when he started to lose the dressing room. Although the majority of fans were still supportive of him, the pressure had clearly gotten to him and he started to embark on a series of incoherent rants. His responses to jibes from Fergie showed that he had lost his composure.

The similarity between Rafa and Rodgers is that they both got it right at some point. Last season, we were unplayable for much of the season and many pundits admitted we were playing some of the best football in Europe. The same could be said of Rafa's team the season we finished 2nd. There isn't a doubt that the loss of Suarez was a massive blow and the absence of Sturridge through injury for a further kick in the teeth. Doesn't help also that we've signed a misfiring "superstar" in Balotelli. I'm just hoping that Sturridge returns to full fitness and we sign a decent forward before the next season begins. BR didn't had his choice of forwards turned down by the board last season and we were left with Balotelli which was admittedly, a panic buy. Not the first time manager and owners have disagreed. The latter didn't even want to for out a bit more for Dempsey last time round. I'm hoping they'll sanction the signing of a Mandzukic, Lavezzi or Cavani this time round. I wouldn't want to have to rely on Origi given the season he's just had at Lille.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 24 2015, 04:27 PM)
To be fair, I think every manager says the same thing when they are under pressure. I've yet to see a manager admit that he's a poor choice and the board should sack him. This is the first sign that a manager is feeling the heat. Rafa went through the same process but he progressed to the next stage where he started arguing with the owners and taking a swipe at his players by continuously citing that he needed better players which did no amount of good to their confidence. This is when he started to lose the dressing room. Although the majority of fans were still supportive of him, the pressure had clearly gotten to him and he started to embark on a series of incoherent rants. His responses to jibes from Fergie showed that he had lost his composure. 

The similarity between Rafa and Rodgers is that they both got it right at some point. Last season, we were unplayable for much of the season and many pundits admitted we were playing some of the best football in Europe. The same could be said of Rafa's team the season we finished 2nd. There isn't a doubt that the loss of Suarez was a massive blow and the absence of Sturridge through injury for a further kick in the teeth. Doesn't help also that we've signed a misfiring "superstar" in Balotelli. I'm just hoping that Sturridge returns to full fitness and we sign a decent forward before the next season begins. BR didn't had his choice of forwards turned down by the board last season and we were left with Balotelli which was admittedly, a panic buy. Not the first time manager and owners have disagreed. The latter didn't even want to for out a bit more for Dempsey last time round. I'm hoping they'll sanction the signing of a Mandzukic, Lavezzi or Cavani this time round. I wouldn't want to have to rely on Origi given the season he's just had at Lille.
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wut do we do?? free transfer to LA Galaxy..

nvm...cheer on.
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Correct me, but I think he demanded to play/start every game. We can't afford that. I certainly wouldn't want that given his current form. I can't really remember SG excels in any position he played this season...
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QUOTE(farisq @ Apr 24 2015, 07:32 PM)
Correct me, but I think he demanded to play/start every game. We can't afford that. I certainly wouldn't want that given his current form. I can't really remember SG excels in any position he played this season...
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Nope he didn't. There as an interview that says he did indicate that it harder for him at the age. He accepts and respect whatever the managers choice.

I remember watching a clip on TV (some football weekly review).

This I believe was before he made the announcement officially confirming his moving on from LiverpoolFC


Rodgers probably wanna win brownie points with gerrard starting him in every game, sapping his stamina early on,

Of course Rodgers has bomb proof excuse that well defensive midfielder isn't as taxing, citing even andreas pirlo did quite well... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 24 2015, 04:27 PM)
To be fair, I think every manager says the same thing when they are under pressure. I've yet to see a manager admit that he's a poor choice and the board should sack him. This is the first sign that a manager is feeling the heat. Rafa went through the same process but he progressed to the next stage where he started arguing with the owners and taking a swipe at his players by continuously citing that he needed better players which did no amount of good to their confidence. This is when he started to lose the dressing room. Although the majority of fans were still supportive of him, the pressure had clearly gotten to him and he started to embark on a series of incoherent rants. His responses to jibes from Fergie showed that he had lost his composure. 

The similarity between Rafa and Rodgers is that they both got it right at some point. Last season, we were unplayable for much of the season and many pundits admitted we were playing some of the best football in Europe. The same could be said of Rafa's team the season we finished 2nd. There isn't a doubt that the loss of Suarez was a massive blow and the absence of Sturridge through injury for a further kick in the teeth. Doesn't help also that we've signed a misfiring "superstar" in Balotelli. I'm just hoping that Sturridge returns to full fitness and we sign a decent forward before the next season begins. BR didn't had his choice of forwards turned down by the board last season and we were left with Balotelli which was admittedly, a panic buy. Not the first time manager and owners have disagreed. The latter didn't even want to for out a bit more for Dempsey last time round. I'm hoping they'll sanction the signing of a Mandzukic, Lavezzi or Cavani this time round. I wouldn't want to have to rely on Origi given the season he's just had at Lille.
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I think future the club cannot rely on Sturridge anymore forwards, if always with injury return date keep on unknown.

The club needs to sign at least 1 top striker and a decent strikers in the summer, with the fact Sturridge is not a reliable fit striker as well as Sterling is not a striker.
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I think future the club cannot rely on Sturridge anymore forwards, if always with injury return date keep on unknown.

The club needs to sign at least 1 top striker and a decent strikers in the summer, with the fact Sturridge is not a reliable fit striker as well as Sterling is not a striker.
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Look, besides sturidge.. Which other British strikers is available? Harry Kane ? how about the other (championship?) team player? (David) Inggs ? or something. I probably don't remember his name now, but I'm sure the gaffer will be able make him a household name by the time he signs for Liverpool sweat.gif sweat.gif

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However, the 42-year-old, is adamant there is no-one who could replace him. I don’t think there is anyone better, that is the reality of how I see it,” he said. “Whenever you are at a club like Liverpool you will have many names mentioned.

“There is absolutely no problem with that, it is something that happens all the time if you lose a couple of games.

“You had former managers linked with the job before and that will continue whether you are good, bad or indifferent.

“Three months ago I was a tactical genius and performing to a good level and we lost a couple of games, some important games, and maybe were not so good but I feel the same now with what I did back then.

“I have a strong relationship with the owners and the partnership who run the club.- BrendanRodgers


http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/04/brend...here-we-are-at/

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Strong relationship with owners thumbup.gif

Best manager out there for Liverpool, and he is young too!! thumbup.gif


FSG certainly has chosen well. wink.gif shocking.gif wink.gif wink.gif


Tactical genius started with this against Aston villa, Revolutionary thumbup.gif

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Napoli threw a 2 goal lead to draw 2-2 with Wolfsburg.

Rafa Benitez. 7 European semifinals in 12 years. And he was out of job for 2 years within that period of time. Incomparable.
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Napoli threw a 2 goal lead to draw 2-2 with Wolfsburg.

Rafa Benitez. 7 European semifinals in 12 years. And he was out of job for 2 years within that period of time. Incomparable.
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You wait and see. blush.gif
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IMO, i think it will be same story like Salah, Willian
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IMO, i think it will be same story like Salah, Willian
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Forget it. We probably gonna end up with Glenn Murray or some ex Swansea players for all I know. We couldn't sign good players when we have CL football.

Plus, Wodgers doesnt have that kinda attraction power.

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Pl u u ze  sweat.gif  do you know Liverpoolfc is lucky to have brendan Rodgers ? Tactical genius, English version punya Pep Guardiola, ok sweat.gif

You wait and see.  blush.gif
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Tactical genius? *fall of my chair*....

Tactic genius - let opponent team outplay you... sweat.gif

AW didn't brag about their 9 straight win, but BR with 12 matches unbeaten run, suddenly become a tactical genius?

What so hu ha about 12 matches unbeaten run?
only fulfill 1/3 route to top 4 place.

You want to be top 4, you cannot lose more than 7~8 matches for the entire season, means that you need at least to have 30 matches being unbeaten (whether it comes in series or not doesn't make a difference).
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waited and seen, so far ok la..

u cant be critical BR alone, perhaps the club shouldve done alot better interm of recruitment. It shouldve done it long long time ago, and build around the cores..


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Forget it. We probably gonna end up with Glenn Murray or some ex Swansea players for all I know. We couldn't sign good players when we have CL football.

Plus, Wodgers doesnt have that kinda attraction power.
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Tactical genius?  *fall of my chair*....

Tactic genius - let opponent team outplay you...  sweat.gif

AW didn't brag about their 9 straight win, but BR with 12 matches unbeaten run, suddenly become a tactical genius?

What so hu ha about 12 matches unbeaten run?
only fulfill 1/3 route to top 4 place.

You want to be top 4, you cannot lose more than 7~8 matches for the entire season, means that you need at least to have 30 matches being unbeaten (whether it comes in series or not doesn't make a difference).
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