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post Nov 8 2016, 03:16 PM

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What will you recommend if I am just starting to explore niche/indie perfume? Being reading Kafkaesque's writing and felt like drowning with info overload.
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post Nov 8 2016, 09:03 PM

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Hi guys. Sorry to intrude. I'm mostly a silent reader on lowyat. But I noticed mentions of Oud, and some are curious about it.

I'm into Oud (newbie too actually) I have some from Feel Oud..samples from Agar Aura..Imperial oud..etc.

I spoke with Taha of AA, he said, why not we organize a casual Oud meetup for oud lovers and those curious about it among Malaysians.
You'll get the chance to ask and learn everything about Oud from Taha himself.

Grades of wood..different origins..oil distillation..how to burn/heat wood..everything you need / want to know.

I suggested to him ..special discount for locals..and he said...why not..quite possible... smile.gif

So guys keep updating about this and I'll check from time to time..

I'm a local btw. If any of you guys want to have a mini-oud meetup..sure why not..we can lepak and chit chat about oud...prelude to the official Agar aura event.

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QUOTE(TAZIO.N @ Nov 3 2016, 04:23 PM)
Too expensive la.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif At least feel oud can buy 1 ml of real oud oil for RM400..ok la tongue.gif
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Actually, it is quite difficult to properly heat/burn agarwood chips. A good example would be the Japanese incense tradition, or Monkoh/Kodo .

Arabs usually simply chuck a super high grade, highly resinous wood on hot coal , so no matter how skilled you are, it's going to smell good. But you won't be able to discern the subtle nuances of the aroma. Everything gets shot up in one go and it's like your olfactory senses just got an uppercut by Mike Tyson.

The Japanese way, takes a lot of skill. The right temperature, the right piece of wood, the right stage of heating. Even a small splinter of wood can last very long by this way. They call it "listening" to the aroma of the heated wood.

Oil, IMO, it's like taking the good stuff out already, for consumers to appreciate. "Listening" to the aroma, and the many facets it brings, also takes skill, and training (your nose).

If you take a low grade wood, or even an average quality wood available nowadays, you'll most likely inhale the smell of burnt wood (like when you burn wood for campfires), and maaaaaybe some of the agarwood goodness. Why? Because the bunk wood (unresinated) gets burnt simultaneously with the resinated parts. Do it like the Japs, you HEAT the wood, not burn it, so that the aroma gets released , while the wood stays unburnt. Use a charcoal, and things get more difficult. Use a good electric heater, then it's easier.

As of now, I'm more of an oil guy. I suck at heating wood, and I'm not rich enough to trial and error with high grade wood. But I do wish to learn it some day.

Now...about oils...from my noob experience, plus some fruitful discussions with Ensar, Adam (Feel Oud), Taha (AA), and some others..

"The real deal" is very subjective. Oil extracted from low quality wood, with poor distillation techniques, are also "The real deal", if one means purity, and really from gaharu, as long as it's not adulterated/diluted. You can get these for below RM200 to RM300+ tops.

If by "the REAL deal" , one means the no nonsense, high end, benchmark oud oils, well then it's a whole different story.

The smell of wood, and even more the oil, may vary due to the following factors :
- Species (malaccensis,crassna, sinensis,etc.)
- Region (Crassna in Pahang vs Crassna in Cambodia, may produce very different smells)
- Grade (obviously) . wild wood tend to give richer,and more complex smells. but take scrap wild wood, compare to high grade cultivation wood, wild will lose out.
- and currently among the biggest factors, Distillation techniques and practices.

So if someone is offering you some WILD oud oil, and put a high price tag,but it smells like longkang all the way through the dry down, the wood used was probably low grade, and the distillation techniques were probably poor as well.

Whether or not synthetics can do the job of real oud, personally I think not at the moment. Real oud is just too complex. Take two sibling trees side by side from the same jungle, make oil, you won't get 100% identical aroma.

BTW Tazio, Feel Oud has 3g oils that would cost around RM400 I think. Like Mai Bo Rai (among which I have extra of..but sold out on website .just checked while writing this). Champi intensa also within my collection. They're the classic cultivated thai oud , but high quality, and no inoculants (injections to trigger infection). Atleast 3 years of natural infection. I think less than 50% of cultivators in Malaysia would even wait as long as 2 years.




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QUOTE(wan81100 @ Nov 9 2016, 11:02 PM)
Actually, it is quite difficult to properly heat/burn agarwood chips. A good example would be the Japanese incense tradition, or Monkoh/Kodo .

Arabs usually simply chuck a super high grade, highly resinous wood on hot coal , so no matter how skilled you are, it's going to smell good. But you won't be able to discern the subtle nuances of the aroma. Everything gets shot up in one go and it's like your olfactory senses just got an uppercut by Mike Tyson.

The Japanese way, takes a lot of skill. The right temperature, the right piece of wood, the right stage of heating. Even a small splinter of wood can last very long by this way. They call it "listening" to the aroma of the heated wood.

Oil, IMO, it's like taking the good stuff out already, for consumers to appreciate. "Listening" to the aroma, and the many facets it brings, also takes skill, and training (your nose).

If you take a low grade wood, or even an average quality wood available nowadays, you'll most likely inhale the smell of burnt wood (like when you burn wood for campfires), and maaaaaybe some of the agarwood goodness. Why? Because the bunk wood (unresinated) gets burnt simultaneously with the resinated parts. Do it like the Japs, you HEAT the wood, not burn it, so that the aroma gets released , while the wood stays unburnt. Use a charcoal, and things get more difficult. Use a good electric heater, then it's easier.

As of now, I'm more of an oil guy. I suck at heating wood, and I'm not rich enough to trial and error with high grade wood. But I do wish to learn it some day.

Now...about oils...from my noob experience, plus some fruitful discussions with Ensar, Adam (Feel Oud), Taha (AA), and some others..

"The real deal" is very subjective. Oil extracted from low quality wood, with poor distillation techniques, are also "The real deal", if one means purity, and really from gaharu, as long as it's not adulterated/diluted.  You can get these for below RM200 to RM300+ tops.

If by "the REAL deal" , one means the no nonsense, high end, benchmark oud oils, well then it's a whole different story.

The smell of wood, and even more the oil, may vary due to the following factors :
- Species (malaccensis,crassna, sinensis,etc.)
- Region (Crassna in Pahang vs Crassna in Cambodia, may produce very different smells)
- Grade (obviously) . wild wood tend to give richer,and more complex smells. but take scrap wild wood, compare to high grade cultivation wood, wild will lose out.
- and currently among the biggest factors, Distillation techniques and practices.

So if someone is offering you some WILD oud oil, and put a high price tag,but it smells like longkang all the way through the dry down, the wood used was probably low grade, and the distillation techniques were probably poor as well.

Whether or not synthetics can do the job of real oud, personally I think not at the moment. Real oud is just too complex. Take two sibling trees side by side from the same jungle, make oil, you won't get 100% identical aroma.

BTW Tazio, Feel Oud has 3g oils that would cost around RM400 I think. Like Mai Bo Rai (among which I have extra of..but sold out on website .just checked while writing this). Champi intensa also within my collection. They're the classic cultivated thai oud , but high quality, and no inoculants (injections to trigger infection). Atleast 3 years of natural infection. I think less than 50% of cultivators in Malaysia would even wait as long as 2 years.
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Thanks for sharing Wan. thumbup.gif

I am indeed interested to try a real Oud oil.From what I read,a high quality Oud Oil is a super potent stuff,a tiny dab is enough.Is that true?

If so,how you apply for each wearing since a normal dab application will be overkill right?

Oh btw,for a "newbie" you really have a vast knowledge of this Agarwood thingy so hats off to you bro notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(wan81100 @ Nov 9 2016, 11:02 PM)
Actually, it is quite difficult to properly heat/burn agarwood chips. A good example would be the Japanese incense tradition, or Monkoh/Kodo .

Arabs usually simply chuck a super high grade, highly resinous wood on hot coal , so no matter how skilled you are, it's going to smell good. But you won't be able to discern the subtle nuances of the aroma. Everything gets shot up in one go and it's like your olfactory senses just got an uppercut by Mike Tyson.

The Japanese way, takes a lot of skill. The right temperature, the right piece of wood, the right stage of heating. Even a small splinter of wood can last very long by this way. They call it "listening" to the aroma of the heated wood.

Oil, IMO, it's like taking the good stuff out already, for consumers to appreciate. "Listening" to the aroma, and the many facets it brings, also takes skill, and training (your nose).

If you take a low grade wood, or even an average quality wood available nowadays, you'll most likely inhale the smell of burnt wood (like when you burn wood for campfires), and maaaaaybe some of the agarwood goodness. Why? Because the bunk wood (unresinated) gets burnt simultaneously with the resinated parts. Do it like the Japs, you HEAT the wood, not burn it, so that the aroma gets released , while the wood stays unburnt. Use a charcoal, and things get more difficult. Use a good electric heater, then it's easier.

As of now, I'm more of an oil guy. I suck at heating wood, and I'm not rich enough to trial and error with high grade wood. But I do wish to learn it some day.

Now...about oils...from my noob experience, plus some fruitful discussions with Ensar, Adam (Feel Oud), Taha (AA), and some others..

"The real deal" is very subjective. Oil extracted from low quality wood, with poor distillation techniques, are also "The real deal", if one means purity, and really from gaharu, as long as it's not adulterated/diluted.  You can get these for below RM200 to RM300+ tops.

If by "the REAL deal" , one means the no nonsense, high end, benchmark oud oils, well then it's a whole different story.

The smell of wood, and even more the oil, may vary due to the following factors :
- Species (malaccensis,crassna, sinensis,etc.)
- Region (Crassna in Pahang vs Crassna in Cambodia, may produce very different smells)
- Grade (obviously) . wild wood tend to give richer,and more complex smells. but take scrap wild wood, compare to high grade cultivation wood, wild will lose out.
- and currently among the biggest factors, Distillation techniques and practices.

So if someone is offering you some WILD oud oil, and put a high price tag,but it smells like longkang all the way through the dry down, the wood used was probably low grade, and the distillation techniques were probably poor as well.

Whether or not synthetics can do the job of real oud, personally I think not at the moment. Real oud is just too complex. Take two sibling trees side by side from the same jungle, make oil, you won't get 100% identical aroma.

BTW Tazio, Feel Oud has 3g oils that would cost around RM400 I think. Like Mai Bo Rai (among which I have extra of..but sold out on website .just checked while writing this). Champi intensa also within my collection. They're the classic cultivated thai oud , but high quality, and no inoculants (injections to trigger infection). Atleast 3 years of natural infection. I think less than 50% of cultivators in Malaysia would even wait as long as 2 years.
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Looks like we have an Oud expert in the house. Thanks for sharing. Keep it coming. I'm sure it'll benefit for anyone who's into real oud.
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QUOTE(wan81100 @ Nov 9 2016, 11:02 PM)
Actually, it is quite difficult to properly heat/burn agarwood chips. A good example would be the Japanese incense tradition, or Monkoh/Kodo .

Arabs usually simply chuck a super high grade, highly resinous wood on hot coal , so no matter how skilled you are, it's going to smell good. But you won't be able to discern the subtle nuances of the aroma. Everything gets shot up in one go and it's like your olfactory senses just got an uppercut by Mike Tyson.

The Japanese way, takes a lot of skill. The right temperature, the right piece of wood, the right stage of heating. Even a small splinter of wood can last very long by this way. They call it "listening" to the aroma of the heated wood.

Oil, IMO, it's like taking the good stuff out already, for consumers to appreciate. "Listening" to the aroma, and the many facets it brings, also takes skill, and training (your nose).

If you take a low grade wood, or even an average quality wood available nowadays, you'll most likely inhale the smell of burnt wood (like when you burn wood for campfires), and maaaaaybe some of the agarwood goodness. Why? Because the bunk wood (unresinated) gets burnt simultaneously with the resinated parts. Do it like the Japs, you HEAT the wood, not burn it, so that the aroma gets released , while the wood stays unburnt. Use a charcoal, and things get more difficult. Use a good electric heater, then it's easier.

As of now, I'm more of an oil guy. I suck at heating wood, and I'm not rich enough to trial and error with high grade wood. But I do wish to learn it some day.

Now...about oils...from my noob experience, plus some fruitful discussions with Ensar, Adam (Feel Oud), Taha (AA), and some others..

"The real deal" is very subjective. Oil extracted from low quality wood, with poor distillation techniques, are also "The real deal", if one means purity, and really from gaharu, as long as it's not adulterated/diluted.  You can get these for below RM200 to RM300+ tops.

If by "the REAL deal" , one means the no nonsense, high end, benchmark oud oils, well then it's a whole different story.

The smell of wood, and even more the oil, may vary due to the following factors :
- Species (malaccensis,crassna, sinensis,etc.)
- Region (Crassna in Pahang vs Crassna in Cambodia, may produce very different smells)
- Grade (obviously) . wild wood tend to give richer,and more complex smells. but take scrap wild wood, compare to high grade cultivation wood, wild will lose out.
- and currently among the biggest factors, Distillation techniques and practices.

So if someone is offering you some WILD oud oil, and put a high price tag,but it smells like longkang all the way through the dry down, the wood used was probably low grade, and the distillation techniques were probably poor as well.

Whether or not synthetics can do the job of real oud, personally I think not at the moment. Real oud is just too complex. Take two sibling trees side by side from the same jungle, make oil, you won't get 100% identical aroma.

BTW Tazio, Feel Oud has 3g oils that would cost around RM400 I think. Like Mai Bo Rai (among which I have extra of..but sold out on website .just checked while writing this). Champi intensa also within my collection. They're the classic cultivated thai oud , but high quality, and no inoculants (injections to trigger infection). Atleast 3 years of natural infection. I think less than 50% of cultivators in Malaysia would even wait as long as 2 years.
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Nice article wan, Enjoy reading it. Definitely a serious player in Oud scent,Be it oil or the chip. thumbsup.gif
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Just got this Tauer's Discovery Set. Only took 6 days to arrive.

http://tauerperfumes.com/discovery-set.html
3 x Au Coeur Du Désert
1 x GARDENIA
1 x TUBEROSE

Here's my quick first impression :-
Gardenia - Opens up with bright fresh gardenia (nice, really nice) but then overwhelmed by tons of vanilla tonka bean. Not really a a fan of tonka bean.
Tuberose - I get tuberose and Tauer's signature note - ambergris. The scent is lighter in body compared to most other in the line.
Au Coeur du Désert - This one smells really really similar if not identical to L`Air du Desert Marocain but this is expected since this is the extrait flanker to the LDDM. I can see oily droplets on my scent card.

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QUOTE(TAZIO.N @ Nov 10 2016, 08:49 AM)
Thanks for sharing Wan. thumbup.gif

I am indeed interested to try  a real Oud oil.From what I read,a high quality Oud Oil is a super potent stuff,a tiny dab is enough.Is that true?

If so,how you apply for each wearing since a normal dab application will be overkill right?

Oh btw,for a "newbie" you really have a vast knowledge of this Agarwood thingy so hats off to you bro notworthy.gif
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@tazio

It is indeed potent. A tiny dab is definitely enough for personal appreciation. If you want others to get a whiff of it, then perhaps a swipe then dab on other areas (pulse points near the neck, behind ears etc). If you have bears, you can wipe your oily hands there too. Hair holds oils longer. Skin absorbs it quite fast.

But oud being overkill is quite subjective.. depends on the type also. Is it a "barnyard" smelling oud ? Is it the airy/minty kind? Is it the smokey incense type? Some have killer top notes but mellower mid and base. Some are very "cheerful" so to speak, while others are grounding, and earthy.

There's this one oil I passed on to my friend..I liked it but when I wore it, it wasnt projecting very well. When my friend wore it, just being near him I get to enjoy the oud aroma. It could either be due to his skin type is suitable with that oud, or I've got olfactory fatigue and need a break .haha

For me I usually put a drop on my wrist and then dab it till the colour is gone but the shine remains. Just for personal appreciation. Sometimes I wipe the remaining on my clothes, since it can last longer. But dont put a drop on your clothes! The stain is very stubborn. Shine without colour, yes safe to dab on cloth. Still at your own risk though.

All this info is still newbie compared to many other people. It's also thanks to friendly and open distillers/vendors and other consumers that such info were gotten.

Btw Tazio which Feel Oud oil have you tried?

@marver @t0n3 thanks guys.no expert here. Just conveying what was conveyed to me.

Ive had people around smelling some of my collection, first comment "busuk! Apa ni???" Haha. It was one of the oils with sort of pungent opening. In general, light thai/cambodian ouds are among the friendly types..fruity..sweet..no barnyard/fecal..usually. if you start with super intense hindi you might run away afterwards. Lol
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Hi folks

How do we get our item if it's detained by some Bahahian Farmasi?
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QUOTE(maxtorxxx @ Nov 11 2016, 10:59 AM)
Hi folks

How do we get our item if it's detained by some Bahahian Farmasi?
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Happened to me last year once. It's a real hassle :

1. Had to bring the perfumes to their office somewhere in Kargo area for inspection and explanation.
2. Write an appeal letter stating purpose of shipment
3. Wait for approval

hope urs gets thru without much hassle.

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QUOTE(wan81100 @ Nov 11 2016, 08:39 AM)
@tazio

It is indeed potent. A tiny dab is definitely enough for personal appreciation. If you want others to get a whiff of it, then perhaps a swipe then dab on other areas (pulse points near the neck, behind ears etc). If you have bears, you can wipe your oily hands there too. Hair holds oils longer. Skin absorbs it quite fast.

But oud being overkill is quite subjective.. depends on the type also. Is it a "barnyard" smelling oud ? Is it the airy/minty kind? Is it the smokey incense type? Some have killer top notes but mellower mid and base. Some are very "cheerful" so to speak, while others are grounding, and earthy.

There's this one oil I passed on to my friend..I liked it but when I wore it, it wasnt projecting very well. When my friend wore it, just being near him I get to enjoy the oud aroma. It could either be due to his skin type is suitable with that oud, or I've got olfactory fatigue and need a break .haha

For me I usually put a drop on my wrist and then dab it till the colour is gone but the shine remains. Just for personal appreciation. Sometimes I wipe the remaining on my clothes, since it can last longer. But dont put a drop on your clothes! The stain is very stubborn. Shine without colour, yes safe to dab on cloth. Still at your own risk though.

All this info is still newbie compared to many other people. It's also thanks to friendly and open distillers/vendors and other consumers that such info were gotten.

Btw Tazio which Feel Oud oil have you tried?

@marver @t0n3 thanks guys.no expert here. Just conveying what was conveyed to me.

Ive had people around smelling some of my collection, first comment "busuk! Apa ni???" Haha. It was one of the oils with sort of pungent opening. In general, light thai/cambodian ouds are among the friendly types..fruity..sweet..no barnyard/fecal..usually. if you start with super intense hindi you might run away afterwards. Lol
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I have yet to try Feel Oud,hence the question to bro t0n3 since he mention that he's not into mainstream oud and eventually led to your post which I appreciated very much smile.gif

My only experience with fragrance that contains real Oud is a couple of sample from La Via Del Profumo/Abdes Salam Attar, Amber Oud & Oud Caravan.Amber Oud has a nice subtle oud note perfect for a beginner like me.Oud Caravan on the other hand,has that what many describe as "banyard"smell,reminds me of my teenage years when I used to help my late grand father feeding his cows.That banyard smell is similar to those ''bau kandang lembu" sweat.gif .I was shocked at first but eventually I've grown fond of it. laugh.gif

Having said that, based on your post I think I will avoid Hindi oud for the time being and try Thai/Cambodian Oud first.Thanks for the heads up bro thumbsup.gif


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QUOTE(whitey87 @ Nov 11 2016, 02:23 PM)
Happened to me last year once. It's a real hassle :

1. Had to bring the perfumes to their office somewhere in Kargo area for inspection and explanation.
2. Write an appeal letter stating purpose of shipment
3. Wait for approval

hope urs gets thru without much hassle.
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How long does it take?
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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Nov 7 2016, 08:59 PM)
So, as usual, Christmas is just around the corner (literally). Anyone has any wishlist ready?
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Haha couldnt agree more now oledi christmas mood. And today my birthday present came early.. thanks to my lovely finance minister after brought her to lunch cele her birthday today

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Yes it is this year christmas limited edition from Jo Malone Orange Bitters 😆😆😆

Start available last thrusday however sold out over the weekend then i gam cheng with the sa to help get me one and tada here it is... the packaging really put other more expansive niche brand to shame... initial impression of the scent - boozy amber orange rind mix with plum and quite similar to the liquor contreau... i love it... really cozy scent which match the season.

Best part is our jo malone is cheapest.. internationally selling usd150 for this size, here only 510 😉😉😉
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QUOTE(whitey87 @ Oct 27 2016, 11:41 AM)
Nope....that was like 3 or 4 weeks ago i checked at LV KLCC. Hope someone can update you with the latest or if I go to KLCC today or tomorrow will drop by and look see :-)

Update on the Jovoy Private Label and Xerjoff Nio : Woke up this morning and there is still a faint smell of both
Its RM780 for 50ml....a very good price compared to online and overseas pricing. Isetan KLCC has no stock but their store ( Fragrance du Bois ) in Starhill still have. Buy and decant perhaps?
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Nice and wise choice here.. i got mine last year from fdb 30% sales lol

I suggest bite the bullet and get it. They can give you 10% at starhill

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If i remember correctly it took all of 2 weeks for them to release....with the complimentary warning letter :-p

QUOTE(edwardleong @ Nov 11 2016, 06:39 PM)
Nice and wise choice here.. i got mine last year from fdb 30% sales lol

I suggest bite the bullet and get it. They can give you 10% at starhill

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You are much wiser bro. @ 30% discount its a REAL wise buy hehe. In that case I might as well wait for the sale...30% off is a lot of dough.
Wahhh what a super nice Jo Malone set you managed to snag off the SA notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(TAZIO.N @ Nov 11 2016, 03:56 PM)
I have yet to try Feel Oud,hence the question to bro t0n3 since he mention that he's not into mainstream oud and eventually led to your post which  I  appreciated  very much smile.gif

My only experience with fragrance that contains real Oud is a couple of sample from La Via Del Profumo/Abdes Salam Attar, Amber Oud & Oud Caravan.Amber Oud has a nice subtle oud note perfect for a beginner like me.Oud Caravan on the other hand,has that what many describe as "banyard"smell,reminds me of my teenage years when I used to help my late grand father feeding his cows.That banyard smell is similar to those ''bau kandang lembu"  sweat.gif  .I was shocked at first but eventually I've grown fond of it. laugh.gif

Having said that, based on your post I think I will avoid Hindi oud for the time being and try Thai/Cambodian Oud first.Thanks for the heads up bro :thumbsup:
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No problem. Glad to be of help.

@tazio One thing about me, I have little to no experience with high end perfumes. Really amazed at the stuff you guys are discussing about! I can't keep up at all.haha.

Yes kandang lembu is very accurate.i've even smelled one that smells like TAIK lembu, sorry for the crude language. Tastefully done barn aroma eventually grows on a lot of people. Looks like you've experienced the 'pull' ! smile.gif

I'm really curious now about the scents you guys are discussing. Oud or non oud aromas..perfumes always fascinate my senses. A lot of reading material for many hours to come it seems. Heh.

If you guys know of any high end oil based perfumes/attars by reputable perfume houses do let me know.

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zzz after all these yrs...my CK obsession is starting to smell sour...
time to hunt for an affordable replacement for it.
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QUOTE(whitey87 @ Nov 4 2016, 04:38 PM)
Today am wearing Ghroob, a perfume oil from Arabian Oud. The bottle itself is encased in this somewhat "gothic" or "arabesque" metal casing. A floral oriental smell with Oud which opens with orange blossom. Kafkaesque did a review of this 2 years ago...

http://www.kafkaesqueblog.com/tag/ghoroob/

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Kafkaesque review of Kalemat made me purchased it, no regrets! I'm waiting for them to re-stock Kalemat Amber (oil version).
Got to try Ghroob, but my wish list from Arabian Oud is the Blue Oud (RM800+)

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Nov 17 2016, 01:49 PM)
Kafkaesque review of Kalemat made me purchased it, no regrets! I'm waiting for them to re-stock Kalemat Amber (oil version).
Got to try Ghroob, but my wish list from Arabian Oud is the Blue Oud (RM800+)
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Haha, so did I. I now have the oil version of Kalemat Amber and Floral.
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QUOTE(t0n3 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:44 PM)
Haha, so did I. I now have the oil version of Kalemat Amber and Floral.
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Where do u buy Kalemat from?



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