more here http://www.streetsilhouettes.com/home/2016...and-superiority

It will auto crop by default, but u can change the setting of the camera not to auto crop.

They're used for different purposes. So cant say that one is better than another.

I used D5200 for 3 years already. Just felt that i can improve the IQ and looking for more beautiful bokeh in FF.
I been shooting with kit lens which is 18-55 F3.5-5.6 only, since i am plan to upgrade system, so i didn't invest on other lens to fully utilize this camera.

Actually, i am quite confusing when everybody is claiming Sony Mirrorless focusing system is not there yet, and slow.
But i check through the review on youtube, all i saw is positive feedback especially for Sony A7R II.



This post has been edited by vincetee06: Sep 28 2016, 05:59 PM

Do you know that AF speed is slow in kitlens?

Invest in a 50mm F1.8. It can be used in both FF and DX. Then you will have more bokeh already!

What i meant was autofocus for photo. For video, most of the time u'll use manual focus. and btw a7r II is kinda very superior compared to a7, a7ii and a7r. same goes to the price tag.

never use sony related stuff so cannot commend...

but ah ha! dah agak you only use kit lens... like DS_legacy said, go borrow (or buy) prime lens then it will feel different
(2nd hand with good condition also okay, price is not drop that fast compare with andriod phone)
downside of prime lens is you cannot use zoom ring la, but you can walk front or backward to frame the whole thing .

just don't get the D version because that lens don't have AF motor inside, and your D5200 don't have built in body either so you have to manual focus all the way, get the G version better.

common DX prime lens i heard of is 35mm (DX) and 50mm (can use with FX)... you go to your friend group ask them any of them have F mount of those lens and try to play with shoot around for a moment, see got improve or not.

it is like comparing racing car spec in game... some have good top speed, some have good handling , and some have good accelerating performance.

so D500 actually is professional DX body with newest (so far) tech compare with other professional line (not sure about D5 ) and yada yada bla bla i am lazy to list from google since i didn't follow up news anymore. just general knowledge from here is nikon created few lines for DSLR sure have their own purpose one like how Samsung make phones got galaxy note S7, S7, ace 7 whatever la.

Get a better lens bro, you will definitely see huge improvements.

Watch this:

I personally think you should invest in glasses instead.

Well, 99% opinion i got here ask me stay in D5200... GG

Yeah, I agreed with them. While Sony A7Rii is a good camera, I absolutely don't see the need for you to switch since you've already have a very capable Nikon D5200. As Agito666 pointed out, get G version of nikon glass where they don't required camera in body autofocus motor since nikon D5200 doesnt have inbody AF motor. If you want good bokeh, I'd recommend Nikon 85mm f/1.8G. It will definitely give you nice bokeh and won't break your bank.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Sep 29 2016, 12:21 AM

Get a 50mm F1.8G. You will notice the difference in bokeh a lot

Although it will be sharper and AF faster than your current kitlens, the sharpness still can't fight good glass la.

Invest on a better standard DX lens. Usually people will buy stock DSLR with kitlens. Then, invest in better standard/prime lenses. If there is really a need, then change a new body and new lenses.

If you have the money wanna straight buy new body and lenses also okay.

Hmmp... one more question, in term of IQ and Sharpness, can Nikon Rm3K-4K ED lens can comparable to Sony Zeiss series prime lens?

Well to be honest, I don't shoot with Sony and so I can't comment much.

I have to leave this question to other sifus to answer.

what i believe is you pay what you get, some cheap lens IQ might be sharp nice nice but maybe manually operate it might not so good...

https://www.dxomark.com/

here is the website can show the score of the lens with IQ alone... also you can find their MTF chart to read

This post has been edited by Agito666: Sep 29 2016, 01:50 AM

Thanks for link, i fount out the affordable Sony 55 F1.8 Zeiss is highly ranked then expansive
Nikon 85mm 1.4

And how does DXO mark actually help one gauge stuff? 0.5 points higher? 2 points higher? Feels good but really doesn't translate into anything significant.

https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/lenses
another one with sample photos, but then those links only SERVE AS GUIDE

you still have to test yourself before buy

yeah that website i put only serve as guide

sharpness is also a measure of contrast which gives the 'illusion' of sharper images.
those nikon lenses are good enough already, afterall a person cannot pixel peep their whole life la.

Actually bro vincetee06, don't need to think too much about superb IQ now, for the current DSLR camera, even the basic D3300 will also give you very good results if you used the right lens.

Since you have the D5200 now, go ahead and get a 85mm f1.8g or 35mm f1.8g if you want nice bokehlicious photos

I personally owns the 35mm f1.8g and the bokeh is crazy, although cannot match other more expensive lens but it's defintiely much better than the 18-55mm kit lens

In terms of lens, if the lens have good focus, it will give good contrast. So not exactly an illusion.

In terms of software that artificially adjust contrast is another thing.

If you have high mps camera like canon 50ds (correct me cause i cant rmember the model), dxo will play some role in deciding if the body and lens are good combo. No point buyig high mps sensor (and vice versa) when the lens cannot resolve such detail. Also it helps if you want to know if paying $$$ for expensive lens worth the img quality it produce no matter if you dont pixel peep.