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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.25, D500 out now

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post Sep 30 2016, 03:45 PM

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post Sep 30 2016, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Sep 30 2016, 03:42 PM)
Well, I think the Sony fans didn't realize you've already had your eyes set on the zeiss 55mm f1.8. Because you asked about FF bokeh, so they advised you to get a good nikkor lens for that bokeh look. I personally think the A7R ii is overkill for you. Just go with the first option, the A7ii + the 2 lenses. Don't buy beyond your mean. Just my 2 cents.

By the way, I got my camera and a lens from Kengdim also. Very good service.  thumbsup.gif
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Yea, actually i was thinking to get A7ii, by the time i want click down the "Place order", i suddenly found a review regarding A7ii focusing system weakness, especially in low light, even worst than entry level DSLR. This thing is stopped me from continue looking at this model....
So... really quite complicated in my mind to make decision....argh...
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post Sep 30 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:04 PM)
Yea, actually i was thinking to get A7ii, by the time i want click down the "Place order", i suddenly found a review regarding A7ii focusing system weakness, especially in low light, even worst than entry level DSLR. This thing is stopped me from continue looking at this model....
So... really quite complicated in my mind to make decision....argh...
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Can you share the link? Perhaps in the sony fanboy page and see what they think ? biggrin.gif And we can continue the conversation from there. Feel strange talking about Sony camera in Nikon forum... sweat.gif . While I never used A7ii before, i've with A7. I found it quite snappy, no problems as long as there is enough contrast in the scene. Without much contrast, any camera can suffer in term of AF. blink.gif

Just a simple reference to A7ii AF, please refer to : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SMFI3dc0ZQ

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post Sep 30 2016, 04:11 PM

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best is ask your friend who use nikon system and lend you 35/50mm f/1.8, then ask another sony system friend lend you body and lens together and compare... also compare AF focus system before you waste money and then regret XDDD


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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Sep 30 2016, 04:08 PM)
Can you share the link? Perhaps in the sony fanboy page and see what they think ? biggrin.gif  And we can continue the conversation from there. Feel strange talking about Sony camera in Nikon forum... sweat.gif .  While I never used A7ii before, i've with A7. I found it quite snappy, no problems as long as there is enough contrast in the scene. Without much contrast, any camera can suffer in term of AF.  blink.gif
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Bro, is actually a comparison video between focusing of A7ii and DSLR and iphone 6 or 6s (4got d), i remember A7ii just having difficulty in low light focus.
I been asking this question in Sony thread, and there was an actual A7ii user feedback the same thing for me, he is jumping from Canon entry DSLR to A7ii
He do agree that the focusing of A7ii lose to DSLR, even entry level one.
But still, he told me he is enjoy using this camera, and i saw all his photo with 55 1.8, just fabulous.


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:11 PM)
best is ask your friend who use nikon system and lend you 35/50mm f/1.8, then ask another sony system friend lend you body and lens together and compare... also compare AF focus system before you waste money and then regret XDDD
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My group all use Nikon and Canon... nobody dare to buy Sony for their very own reason.
My area also a small town, camera shop only have A6k and Nikon D800 the most expansive unit for test, other need pre order.
Ask JB sony center also no show unit... sign...
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post Sep 30 2016, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:24 PM)
Bro, is actually a comparison video between focusing of A7ii and DSLR and iphone 6 or 6s (4got d), i remember A7ii just having difficulty in low light focus.
I been asking this question in Sony thread, and there was an actual A7ii user feedback the same thing for me, he is jumping from Canon entry DSLR to A7ii
He do agree that the focusing of A7ii lose to DSLR, even entry level one.
But still, he told me he is enjoy using this camera, and i saw all his photo with 55 1.8, just fabulous.

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You know, you can use AF assist light to help in AF. And ask yourself, how frequent you need to shoot in those extreme low light condition? There will be way to work around your gear limitations.
I hope you don't mind me saying this, you worry too much.....and it started to sound like you haven't really understand the full potential of your D5200. I think it will make more sense to just stick to your D5200 with better lenses as others already pointed out. You might be very surprise with what it can do for you with the right lens, instead of blindy chasing after gears, which will leave you disappointed in the end if you don't know how to unleash their full potential. Better gears doesnt necessary mean better image. Again, just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Sep 30 2016, 04:36 PM)
You know, you can use AF assist light to help in AF. And ask yourself, how frequent you need to shoot in those extreme low light condition? There will be way to work around your gear limitations.
    I hope you don't mind me saying this, but it started to sound like you haven't really understand the full potential of your D5200. I think it will make more sense to just stick to your D5200 with better lenses as others already pointed out.  You might be very surprise with what it can do for you with the right lens, instead of blindy chasing after gears, which will leave you disappointed in the end if you don't know how to unleash their full potential. Better gears doesnt necessary mean better image. Again, just my 2 cents.
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Yea, is ok, i know u all are giving the best word to me. Much Appreciated.
I admit that i never fully used the D5200, as i said i wanted to shoot in FF in someday.
And, i am the kind of person like to one shot to get the best one, instead of slowly upgrade.
So once i know there is FF system with better sensor, better bokeh, better IQ (maybe?), then i stop investing in APS-C field.
Again, i thank you for your words, u guy are just too kind to me instead of keep poison me, haha
really appreciated, i will take all the consideration before fire my bullet. thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 30 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:51 PM)
Yea, is ok, i know u all are giving the best word to me. Much Appreciated.
I admit that i never fully used the D5200, as i said i wanted to shoot in FF in someday.
And, i am the kind of person like to one shot to get the best one, instead of slowly upgrade.
So once i know there is FF system with better sensor, better bokeh, better IQ (maybe?), then i stop investing in APS-C field.
Again, i thank you for your words, u guy are just too kind to me instead of keep poison me, haha
really appreciated, i will take all the consideration before fire my bullet. thumbsup.gif
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Welcome Bro, and thanks for not taking my words the wrong way! thumbsup.gif Whichever route you choose to go (switch to FF mirrorless or get more nikkor lenses) I wish you the best.
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happen to come across this blog which i find quite interesting ...

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/29/wont-buy-new-camera/

But of course depends on what you want to do, and most importantly how you justify your upgrade.

Im still using my d300. but less lately due to other commitments, I shot my own product advert using the d300 results still quite decent. for the most part, lightroom and photoshop can do a lot of 'saves'. Just the shutter might be dying on me. it got stuck a few times last month.

Only when Im needed to shoot video, then I would bring out the d600 tongue.gif probably if I shot the img below with d600 we can see more of the kitty walking past..

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160828-celica-05 by Gerald Lim, on Flickr
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post Sep 30 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Sep 30 2016, 05:00 PM)
happen to come across this blog which i find quite interesting ...

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/29/wont-buy-new-camera/ 

But of course depends on what you want to do, and most importantly how you justify your upgrade.

Im still using my d300. but less lately due to other commitments, I shot my own product advert using the d300 results still quite decent. for the most part, lightroom and photoshop can do a lot of 'saves'. Just the shutter might be dying on me. it got stuck a few times last month.

Only when Im needed to shoot video, then I would bring out the d600 tongue.gif probably if I shot the img below with d600 we can see more of the kitty walking past..

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160828-celica-05 by Gerald Lim, on Flickr
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Good article, thanks for sharing gerald7. While reading it, I stumbled across another great article.

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/28/tip-rush-c...k-lenses-first/
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QUOTE(avatargod @ Sep 30 2016, 03:28 PM)
its D3100, selling for 1k with 2 lenses plus sb700. Seller use it for about 2 + years, sell because need money, seller not selling online. From colleague to colleague.
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Wah so cheap? Second hand SB700 already around rm650
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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 30 2016, 04:04 PM)
Yea, actually i was thinking to get A7ii, by the time i want click down the "Place order", i suddenly found a review regarding A7ii focusing system weakness, especially in low light, even worst than entry level DSLR. This thing is stopped me from continue looking at this model....
So... really quite complicated in my mind to make decision....argh...
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I find slow AF annoying whenever I wanna take candid shots. laugh.gif

The moment you able to focus the subject, the special moment gone sad.gif

I got that a lot during my days in uni where they asked me to shoot for stage event in college. Some events like orchestra cannot use flash and need to perform under low light. Hard to get good photo.
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 30 2016, 06:26 PM)
Wah so cheap? Second hand SB700 already around rm650
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Waaa....I don't really know that... usually shooting on film slr(Pentax Me Super & Olympus OM10)..this is my first time owning digital slr. My colleague need urgent money so sell me all that for RM1k. I take it.

Any dslr sifu around here suggest me...izzit okay to use my old manual lens on digital slr( my case : pentax 50mm 1.4 lens on nikon) using adapter... is there any calibration/other setting needed to be done?

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QUOTE(avatargod @ Sep 30 2016, 03:28 PM)
its D3100, selling for 1k with 2 lenses plus sb700. Seller use it for about 2 + years, sell because need money, seller not selling online. From colleague to colleague.
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Wah if you're in doubt I will take leh. RM 1k I really serious sapu liao.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 30 2016, 07:29 PM)
Wah if you're in doubt I will take leh. RM 1k I really serious sapu liao.
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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 30 2016, 02:50 PM)
My initial idea was same with you, selling my Nikon and jump to Sony Mirrorless FF, but Sony fans ask me to stay in where i am.
So i came to here and survey Nikon, mana tahu here people also say the same thing...
Yea, i really love how the image is presented by using that 55mm 1.8 zeiss, and the price is affordable for me.
But Sony camera body price is no joke...

So now i considering 3 combination:

Sony A7ii + 55mm 1.8zeiss + 16-35mm F4 zeiss
Sony A7R ii + above same lens (not enough fund for this, but can installment)
Nikon D750 + 50mm F1.8G ED
Bro, the seller is KengDim, which have a shop in Cheras. he is selling official Sony Malaysia Warranty set.
Both Shashikin and KLDSLR also selling this lens at the same price. Perhaps you go update your list =)
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Hmm.. I din really compare the prices and from which dealer. But i found a dealer selling a7ii at rm4823. timesquare one and it's sony set, not import.
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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Sep 30 2016, 10:14 PM)
Hmm.. I din really compare the prices and from which dealer. But i found a dealer selling a7ii at rm4823. timesquare one and it's sony set, not import.
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The best I've got is RM 4790 inclusive GST
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 30 2016, 11:02 PM)
The best I've got is RM 4790 inclusive GST
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Currently best price for A7ii is Rm4790 at Lazada (Official Sony Malaysia set) by using RM200 vourcher + 4% cash rebate from Shopback.
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QUOTE(avatargod @ Sep 30 2016, 07:41 PM)
I already sapu... hahaha
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Wahhh seriously your colleague memang despo. Untunglah! brows.gif
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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 30 2016, 11:24 PM)
Currently best price for A7ii is Rm4790 at Lazada (Official Sony Malaysia set) by using RM200 vourcher + 4% cash rebate from Shopback.
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Nice price too.
When you getting one?

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