Get better lens. You change different body but use same kit lens, you wont see the quality change much.same goes for sony and all other brand.

good focus not necessarily good contrast.
u can always compare older lenses with newer ones of the same brand and focal length...
say 50mm 1.8d and the 1.8g...
both are sharp enough already at say 2.8...but the g has better contrast...hence more ppl somehow prefer it.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Sep 29 2016, 11:03 AM

Yes, the edge out data may not showing significant different result.
But the price of that sony new lens is just about 2.6K, thats tempting, i had seen the result from this lens, really perfect.
And its price doesn't drop much when comes to used lens, if compare to Nikon used lens, usually dropped more than 30% IMO.

I am thinking... possible to use Sony FE lens on my 5200? if in future, i am comfortable to upgrade Sony system still can use it.

Btw, i saw in KLDSLR, a lot of Nikon used Big F-stop 50mm G lens, price at around 8-900 up to 1.5k only, these lens can buy?
Anyone bought used Nikon lens from them?

Not sure how lens is constructed to give "good " constrast but as i know good focus allows rays of light to focus at one point thus not leaving too much blurred edges thus giving the img a good clarity which also gives good contrast as black is more black with not much white wash at the edge. Of course that is actually clarity, but good clarity do give better contrast.

And if im right, older lens, i believe the lens or coating will have some degradation (correct me) thus causing white "not white" so less contrasty (black is black vs white is white)

All this my opinion so im not entirely right.

too much science...but plenty of reading material out there with a simple google -
https://luminous-landscape.com/understanding-lens-contrast/
http://yannickkhong.com/blog/2016/2/8/micr...ry-of-the-world

older lens, doesnt mean the coating degrade...they probably just have very general coating.
while something like nikon's nanocoat is barely 10yrs old.

then got all the higher mp needing better lens etc...never ending...better go back to using ancient lenses on ancient bodies

Some, but not absolute, and certainly doesn't reflect when it actual usage.

The problem is that you see the professionals often don't talk DXO marks but the non-Professionals / shoot for fun people debate away my DXO mark higher than yours.

Yes it's such. For example my experience with Sigma lenses vs my Canon lenses last time, the Sigma lenses give warmer output despite same settings.

You have to remember that you need more spare batteries if you are shooting with Sony mirrorless.

Personally, I would prefer to do COD to buy used units. To check not only the condition but also to make sure the seller is legit. Less risk.

Which sony new lens is 2.6k? The Sony 55mm f/1.8 Sonnar?
Price of sony lens not dropping cz of current high demand imo
Btw i have seen ppl using adapter on a sony body for nikon/canon lens. but not the other way round la

If u wanna get a 50mm, i recommend the sigma 50mm 1.4 EX (but get the old version, rougher surface one cz i think they produce sharper image)
But on a DX body, a 35mm 1.8G DX is better suited for me since can use it indoors n outdoors. Go n try it out at nikon timesquare

Yes, both lazada ad kldslr selling at 2.7k, with discount code can further reduce the price to 2.6 and 2.5k. I am thinking
this 55mm 1.8 maybe enough for portrait use, hunt one more 16-35mm for landscape then i am good to go.

For Sigma lens, i am not familiar with it, maybe the price cheaper, but the i am doubting the IQ can fight against Zeiss lens?

I personally dont make dxo comparison between lens too much. Just that the measurement they do does offer some insight. And i did see some pro look at dxo for informative reason and those that dont usually go after already established lens. Of course dont depend on dxo but real world experience review also.

DXO mark is useful IF people know what to make out of it.

The problem is when people just look at points and compare but no idea what it actually means.

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Perceptual mps test is actually pretty useful. So you dont go buy zeiss otus on a 18mps camera body. Or buy 50mps camera and cheap lens and hoping to get 50mps out of it.

Dxo site is just a spec sheet not review. So yes dont rely on it solely for purchasing decision.

That is not possible due to shorter flange range of sony mirrorless camera design. Unless you some how can remove the mirror in your D5200 and modify the lens mount closer to the sensor.

Seems like you're quite keen on the Zeiss 55mm f1.8 (which I agreed is a fabulous lens). If I were you, I will save up and sell all the nikon gears and jump ship to Sony mirrorless completely. No point buying anymore nikon glasses. But then again, that's just me. What do you think?

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Sep 30 2016, 01:19 PM

Dun get from lazada la, lazada from various sellers and they maybe selling import set and all that. kldslr i deal wit him before.
Yes, if u're using sony FF such as Sony a7 for instance, a 55mm and a 16-35 would be sufficient for almost everythin.
Btw im comparing the sigma 50 1.4 EX with nikon 50mm lenses (50mm 1.8D, 1.8G, 1.4D, 1.4G) If u wanna bring in Zeiss, then u shud compare with the Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art (cz similar price range but much heavier)

My initial idea was same with you, selling my Nikon and jump to Sony Mirrorless FF, but Sony fans ask me to stay in where i am.
So i came to here and survey Nikon, mana tahu here people also say the same thing...
Yea, i really love how the image is presented by using that 55mm 1.8 zeiss, and the price is affordable for me.
But Sony camera body price is no joke...

So now i considering 3 combination:

Sony A7ii + 55mm 1.8zeiss + 16-35mm F4 zeiss
Sony A7R ii + above same lens (not enough fund for this, but can installment)
Nikon D750 + 50mm F1.8G ED


Bro, the seller is KengDim, which have a shop in Cheras. he is selling official Sony Malaysia Warranty set.
Both Shashikin and KLDSLR also selling this lens at the same price. Perhaps you go update your list =)

ey guy, about to buy 2nd hand dslr Nikon... the SC is about 16k. Izzit okay?

it is kinda low, should be alright, let's say average SC is 100k la... 16k is just part of it. (i google one, it gives me D90 topic one)

well what model is it and how many years the seller used? the reason to sell and those also need to check.

sifu correct me if i wrong

its D3100, selling for 1k with 2 lenses plus sb700. Seller use it for about 2 + years, sell because need money, seller not selling online. From colleague to colleague.

This post has been edited by avatargod: Sep 30 2016, 03:30 PM

Well, I think the Sony fans didn't realize you've already had your eyes set on the zeiss 55mm f1.8. Because you asked about FF bokeh, so they advised you to get a good nikkor lens for that bokeh look. I personally think the A7R ii is overkill for you. Just go with the first option, the A7ii + the 2 lenses. Don't buy beyond your mean. Just my 2 cents.

By the way, I got my camera and a lens from Kengdim also. Very good service.