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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.25, D500 out now

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post Sep 28 2016, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 28 2016, 08:00 AM)
Hi guys, i am casual D5200 shooter, thinking to upgrade to FF system.
Now considering to switch to sony mirrorless system or Nikon FF.
i want to know is D810 worth the upgrade? the price is quite steep tho..
My mainly shooting landscape, portrait, travel vlog (used to work with 1080 60p), and thinking to step in wedding
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Firstly, are there any solid reason behind the intention to upgrade?

Because the D5200 is no slouch in terms of image quality and based on your usage, I believe the D5200 is more suitable for VLOG because of the flippy screen.

On top of that, the cost of upgrading is going to be VERY steep because of the glass you put at the front of the camera, never just the body alone.
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 28 2016, 12:42 PM)
Hi there!

Since you are taking this as an hobbyist, I will recommend you to stay with DX first. Personally, I don't really think you need that jump yet. As you mentioned VLOG, D5200 is more capable and has a bigger advantage here with the flip screen as you can see yourself as you do the VLOG. No one can do VLOG well without looking at the screen and D5200 can perform well here. Besides, assuming you do landscape and portraits often here, you must already have some DX lenses lying around. smile.gif

So, here is my amateur advice, stay with DX first, get a speedlight (a must for wedding). Train yourself with DX + speedlight well. Then when you are financially capable (capable of buying FF with your photography earnings), then you jump FF for better dynamic range and FF crop sensor. Everything is expensive in FF. DX is cheap and lighter too. I understand this well because I own both D5300 and D750. biggrin.gif
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Well, i really appreciated, all u guy here are so nice and thoughtful, all ask me to stay in DX instead of poison me, laugh.gif
Actually i am shooting along with my group of friend, some of them has already upgrade to FF system, even it is the same angle of shots, my IQ just can't match to them, bokeh, dynamic range, focusing speed...etc (thy using D610, D700).

Since you have both 5300 and D750, may i know your feedback for the difference? is it worth for you to upgrade?
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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 28 2016, 01:23 PM)
Well, i really appreciated, all u guy here are so nice and thoughtful, all ask me to stay in DX instead of poison me,  laugh.gif
Actually i am shooting along with my group of friend, some of them has already upgrade to FF system, even it is the same angle of shots, my IQ just can't match to them, bokeh, dynamic range, focusing speed...etc (thy using D610, D700).

Since you have both 5300 and D750, may i know your feedback for the difference? is it worth for you to upgrade?
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more likely if you are working adult now, you have spare money, you can spend your money like a boss, then we can poison you all we like here brows.gif

but if you are student, go back home and study your homework lol laugh.gif (unless you are serious and want to use that for part time job)

also image quality i think is pretty much affected by Lens first; second one will up to body you used (unless your body is obsolete tech)

also another option is you get D7000 series which is higher rank in DX (or D500) without sacrifice your DX lenses

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post Sep 28 2016, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 28 2016, 01:23 PM)
Well, i really appreciated, all u guy here are so nice and thoughtful, all ask me to stay in DX instead of poison me,  laugh.gif
Actually i am shooting along with my group of friend, some of them has already upgrade to FF system, even it is the same angle of shots, my IQ just can't match to them, bokeh, dynamic range, focusing speed...etc (thy using D610, D700).

Since you have both 5300 and D750, may i know your feedback for the difference? is it worth for you to upgrade?
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There is definitely a huge difference in the focusing speed and dynamic range. Since you are not shooting sports, you don't really have to bother about focusing speed right? icon_idea.gif

Bokeh wise, it is the lens that matters. Get a 85mm F1.8 for the bokehlicioussss brows.gif brows.gif

I bought D750 to shoot for wedding/events. Both is capable of shooting video at 1080p with 60fps and capable of shooting photos at 24MP. But sometimes i prefer to use D5300 since it is so much lighter and it is really tiring to hold a FF camera for video. laugh.gif

I still use D5300 a lot (it is so much lighter and smaller) for casual portraits and landscape. biggrin.gif

But when it comes to professional service, people tend to judge a lot. A professional holding a D5300 doesn't look more professional than a noob holding D750. bangwall.gif

This is also another reason why I only use D750 during actual day wedding and also corporate event shoots. nod.gif

That's why I recommend you to go for full frame when you are shooting wedding often. Otherwise, D5300 should suffice. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 28 2016, 01:37 PM)
more likely if you are working adult now, you have spare money, you can spend your money like a boss, then we can poison you all we like here 

but if you are student, go back home and study your homework lol  laugh.gif (unless you are serious and want to use that for part time job)

also image quality i think is pretty much affected by Lens first; second one will up to body you used (unless your body is obsolete tech)

also another option is you get D7000 series which is higher rank in DX (or D500)  without sacrifice your DX lenses
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 28 2016, 01:45 PM)
There is definitely a huge difference in the focusing speed and dynamic range. Since you are not shooting sports, you don't really have to bother about focusing speed right?  icon_idea.gif

Bokeh wise, it is the lens that matters. Get a 85mm F1.8 for the bokehlicioussss  brows.gif  brows.gif

I bought D750 to shoot for wedding/events. Both is capable of shooting video at 1080p with 60fps and capable of shooting photos at 24MP. But sometimes i prefer to use D5300 since it is so much lighter and it is really tiring to hold a FF camera for video. laugh.gif

I still use D5300 a lot (it is so much lighter and smaller) for casual portraits and landscape.

But when it comes to professional service, people tend to judge a lot. A professional holding a D5300 doesn't look more professional than a noob holding D750.  bangwall.gif

This is also another reason why I only use D750 during actual day wedding and also corporate event shoots.

That's why I recommend you to go for full frame when you are shooting wedding often. Otherwise, D5300 should suffice.  thumbsup.gif
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very well said... or if u budget is really really steep u may also get D800
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oh yeah before i forget, list all of your gears (so far we only know you got D5200)

and maybe some of your friend's gears so we can know why you think of wanted to "upgrade" to FF because merely focus speed, IQ, here and there makes you underwhelming.

also location/ some environment that makes your DSLR body not perform well.

maybe end up just suggest you change lens (if you use default lens) or just add flashlight lol.
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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Sep 28 2016, 02:18 PM)
very well said... or if u budget is really really steep u may also get D800
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Actually I once consider D800. 32MP, 1/8000 SS. Super impressive. brows.gif

But too bad, it shoots max at 1080p with 50 fps. And more expensive than D750 laugh.gif

So i got D750 in the end drool.gif
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 28 2016, 02:51 PM)
Actually I once consider D800. 32MP, 1/8000 SS. Super impressive.  brows.gif

But too bad, it shoots max at 1080p with 50 fps. And more expensive than D750  laugh.gif

So i got D750 in the end  drool.gif
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budget constraint broo... i only can afford that that time... and i didnt quite like the titly screen idea
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 28 2016, 02:25 PM)
oh yeah before i forget, list all of your gears (so far we only know you got D5200)

and maybe some of your friend's gears so we can know why you think of wanted to "upgrade" to FF because merely focus speed, IQ, here and there makes you underwhelming.

also location/ some environment that makes your DSLR body not perform well.

maybe end up just suggest you change lens (if you use default lens) or just add flashlight lol.
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Yeah true. Sometimes we can also borrow lens from our friends if there is really a need to do so. brows.gif

QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Sep 28 2016, 02:58 PM)
budget constraint broo... i only can afford that that time... and i didnt quite like the titly screen idea
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Now can afford liao mah thumbsup.gif

After your japan trip, i am waiting to see you in action with your 70-200! devil.gif
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 28 2016, 02:51 PM)
Actually I once consider D800. 32MP, 1/8000 SS. Super impressive.  brows.gif

But too bad, it shoots max at 1080p with 50 fps. And more expensive than D750  laugh.gif

So i got D750 in the end  drool.gif
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the time i saving hard for FF because D750 not yet release plus i must get it before my trip sweat.gif
oh well better than D70s with max 1600 iso that time whistling.gif
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Actually la, making money or not has no relevance.

If you're loaded, you can buy whatever you want. Same like car, you can choose to buy an Axia or go with a Merc C200 - costs many times more, you don't make money out of it either.

As for FX vs DX, let's not forget that the DX model D500 costs as much as a D750, costs more than a D6xx range. And in the market today, APS-C sensor camera like Sigma DP / SD Quattro out-performs many full frame sensor models.

So don't just look at sensor, look at overall feature, factoring size and weight, cost faster and whatever else against your intended purpose.

One might be loaded and have no problem buying a D5 with trinity lenses but should one do so?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 28 2016, 11:05 AM)
actually you still can use DX lens on FX body but cropped portion of course, i rarely (actually never see) people in here use DX lens on FX body... most of the poeple here i see is use FX lens on DX body then slowly convert to FX body. (which means invest in lens then body later)
I use DX lens on FX body shoot at the full area. biggrin.gif

How many of you would believe me if I say this was taken with DX lens on FX body? http://myfigurecollection.net/picture/1621896

I took the photo with 40mm DX Micro lens, after that crop the way I like.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 28 2016, 03:59 PM)
I use DX lens on FX body shoot at the full area. biggrin.gif

How many of you would believe me if I say this was taken with DX lens on FX body? http://myfigurecollection.net/picture/1621896

I took the photo with 40mm DX Micro lens, after that crop the way I like.

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err i think i recall someone did mention if mount DX lens on FX body it will auto crop... that was what i mean XD
but the photo you show that one is full no crop + vignette one?
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1. No auto-crop
2. Vignette depends on what aperture you're using, lighting condition, and lens.
3. You can choose the IMAGE AREA. Start by disabling the "Auto DX crop" function (set to OFF) after that you can choose 1.0 (FX) 1.3 (APS-H) and 1.5 (APS-C) area of the sensor.

For example if you use Sigma 50-150 DC lens on D750, the lens works fine from 1.3x area to 1.5x.
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QUOTE(vincetee06 @ Sep 28 2016, 08:00 AM)
Hi guys, i am casual D5200 shooter, thinking to upgrade to FF system.
Now considering to switch to sony mirrorless system or Nikon FF.
i want to know is D810 worth the upgrade? the price is quite steep tho..
My mainly shooting landscape, portrait, travel vlog (used to work with 1080 60p), and thinking to step in wedding
photo in near future.
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If money not ur concern, go for D810 imo..but it's only my personal preference.
Nice button layout, quieter shutter mechanism, fast AF but a bit heavier..
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Or maybe D750 or D500.
Both are superb cameras... And my pocket is shaking to get D500 brows.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 28 2016, 03:59 PM)
I use DX lens on FX body shoot at the full area. biggrin.gif

How many of you would believe me if I say this was taken with DX lens on FX body? http://myfigurecollection.net/picture/1621896

I took the photo with 40mm DX Micro lens, after that crop the way I like.

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shocking.gif i also admire ur shots... mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 28 2016, 03:55 PM)
Actually la, making money or not has no relevance.

If you're loaded, you can buy whatever you want. Same like car, you can choose to buy an Axia or go with a Merc C200 - costs many times more, you don't make money out of it either.

As for FX vs DX, let's not forget that the DX model D500 costs as much as a D750, costs more than a D6xx range. And in the market today, APS-C sensor camera like Sigma DP / SD Quattro out-performs many full frame sensor models.

So don't just look at sensor, look at overall feature, factoring size and weight, cost faster and whatever else against your intended purpose.

One might be loaded and have no problem buying a D5 with trinity lenses but should one do so?
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So u mean D500 DX can be better then D750, D810 FF? shocking.gif
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Sony has better video quality and much lighter. Best for u to travel around with compared to a full frame dslr.
But sony has super expensive lenses and AF nt as fast as dslr. Drains out battery like crazy, u will need at least 3 of them for a day if ure travelling. if you're working with it, u'll need at least 6 to 10 of them.
Hw long u used d5200?


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Im using a tokina 11-16 on a FX camera. cry.gif

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