Honestly I like the design. It has the combiner aesthetics. I can understand how Hasbro is working, the safety regulations etc, as well as making sure the toys themselves are appealing and can be accepted by all. So many hoops of fire they have to jump. After all, its ROI over and over again. The kangkang thighs, are way better than 3rd party’s A stance. It gives more pose ability for the figures, not to mention stability. My only gripe with Combiner Wars is the weak hands and feet design, but hey, they are going that Scramble City way, where everybody can be combined with anybody, but this time, hands can be legs vice versa. Its an understandable scenario. Definitely will get Menasor and the Protectorbots. On the third party side, am hoping can complete my Warbotron Bruticus. Hope the company has the balls to bring Japanese G1 combiners like Raiden, Dinoking, Leo Kaiser etc. Personally I am getting bored with G1 US combiners.

we cannot compare the actual toy figure with what's illustrated in the comics because the mechanics are simply different. in the comics, the length and size of each individual bots can be altered figuratively to the convenience of the drawer BUT same cannot be done to the actual figures. i don't think it's a poor design just maybe Hasbro is restricted in resources to actually invest in time and money to make sure every stage of transformation is perfect to the eye.

plus, we need to consider that Hasbro is not churning out one combiner at a time, it's multiple combiners at one time so i think Hasbro has done quite an impressive job in the combiner wars line.

it's really unfair to compare it with 3rd parties.


if you want a good looking figure to display, by all means spending thousands and get 3rd parties but if you want a toy which is fun to play with (transformation), get Hasbro. trust me, 3rd parties may look good but a pain in the ass when it comes to transformation. my green giant has been siting in the shelves for so long I don't remember when i last transformed it.


^ agree.

my only nitpick with the Hasbro's combiner wars is with the hands and feet, the lack of articulation bothers me but doesn't irritate but then again, these can be fixed with 3rd party add ons (ie. perfect effect)

I agree... but I seriously cant accept the price. RM70++ for a TF smaller than a deluxe toy. hmm..
And also.. how they recycled the same mould for feet and hands. I can't comprehend this at all.

Just watched the video, really hard to know which is KO from out of box... I just bought 1 from eBay n waiting the toy to reach my door step. Got a few MPs still not yet out of box but this MP-17 a bit worry. Seller told it's from TakTom Japan with no coin, guess I'll need to transform it once I get it.

LOL.

First you say Hasbro did it "on purpose" to make the combiners look "tough".

Now you are saying it looks that way because of "restrictions".

My point is, if Hasbro did this because they think it looks GOOD, then it would look that way in the artwork too.

The reason it doesn't is because they were incapable of replicating the artwork aesthetic. Inferior design, plain and simple.

This is not even a third party vs official issue. Hasbro themselves have made better looking combiners in the past at similar price points.

In any case, let's just agree to disagree.

It's obvious that these CW Combiners are quite polarizing to the fandom. Some like them. Some (like me) think they're among the worst in the history of the franchise.



This post has been edited by omichael: Apr 15 2015, 11:23 AM

haaa, that price thing is a totally different issue and I am with you

You seem to suggest that I'm contradicting myself in my statement which i disagree.

My first reply was to your statement that the combiners appeared to resemble "gorillas", thus I assumed that you were complaining about the bulk size of it but then after reading your second statement, I'm thinking that maybe you are referring to the arm's length which extends all the way to the knee joints hence giving them that "ape-like" appearance which is why i replied to you regarding the mechanics.

I'm sure Hasbro finds the actual combiners wanting for something and I'm sure they still think the illustration in the comics are better but like i said, "restrictions" will not help them achieve what they wanted to achieve. So, it's the matter of Hasbro following the comic rather than the other way around.

Wow! Seems like you've been through the Transformers franchise since they were released. Care to show me which combiners Hasbro has released that in your opinion is better than the current combiner wars line? I just started collecting the toys as of late 2011 so have no idea of its predecessors.

Really? Okay. I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I am referring to the overall proportions.

The job of a toy designer is to overcome restrictions as much as possible.

So if Hasbro is trying to follow the comic as you now confess, how is it not obvious that they've fallen seriously short?

As for better combiners:

Considering the time of their release, I find most official combiner lines from the past to be better accomplishments than CW. From G1 to War of Cybertron to Energon Combiners to even some of the Power Core Combiners (matter of opinion of course).

In today's market, I really expect better from Hasbro.



Actually some parts of that admittedly ugly guy STILL look better than CW Combiners

This post has been edited by omichael: Apr 15 2015, 12:00 PM

How much you paid for it?

Paid RM210 for the toy, it's a taktom price n better be taktom toy.....😁

If any MP direct from Japan takaratomy is don't have coins, coins only available from Hasbro asia. Same case like MP23.

how bout this?



for me i think this is really the worst one~ but luckily there is add on..

Well at least on its own you can still shamelessly call it a combiner bot which has an ok limb and a set of recognizable hand and feet . Universe combiners without the addon I dunno what to make of it. With that being said, FOC Bruticus isn't far behind in term of terribleness. Most hollow and cheap looking bot ever..

Sorry to interrupt the current discussion. Does any1 knows MakeToys MT-04 Nemesis reach our shores yet?

This post has been edited by nifoc2099: Apr 15 2015, 08:00 PM

nop... havent

Yup, that's right, have to find a coin myself... Just worry to be cheated on the things... First trade, hope all is well~

Sunspot getting ready for action, he might have a chance blasting that ugly universe combiner

have anyone see this photo of grimlock from toyworld? isnt that a pair of combiner leg? does that mean the dinobot from tw will be a combiner?

any link to share some legit info?

double post

This post has been edited by tnsai: Apr 16 2015, 09:50 AM