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post Feb 13 2015, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 13 2015, 08:11 PM)
Wow, language. BTW, how come it's not censored? lol
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 13 2015, 01:29 PM)
Fat don't make you fat. Don't worry about that.

I take Steffi's Peanut Butter cause it's no sugar. If Ladies' Choice creamy peanut butter, i'll puke cause too many sugar. Pick the one that suits you where u can take more than 2tablespoons.
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Bro, how much and where u beli ?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 13 2015, 08:46 PM)
Bro, how much and where u beli ?
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Tesco.
RM 13.90 if not mistaken. 14 servings (2tablespoon / 200cal per serving). icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 14 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 13 2015, 08:54 PM)
Tesco.
RM 13.90 if not mistaken. 14 servings (2tablespoon / 200cal per serving).  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wah very mahal wor.....
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post Feb 14 2015, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 13 2015, 01:30 AM)
i think i will be skipping mass gainer  notworthy.gif oat is quite expensive sometimes thou, the high quality oats in my home using bg22 cost like RM 60+ per bottle 400g, i think the cheap 1 will do, anyway thanks for your reply  laugh.gif
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Check out the oats, muesli and other form of nuts in Tesco. It's their own brand and its very cheap. I used to eat 3000 calories without any mass gainer, very easy. You'll just have to deal with being full all the time.

You'll cherish this sensation when you're cutting.
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milk powder so expensive sia, at tesco 1 sell 2KG 30 servings for RM 60+
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QUOTE(calapia @ Feb 13 2015, 04:42 PM)
great...i want to be strong....don't want to be big....  sweat.gif
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this is not going to happen. at least to you, and me

research around on what their routines and diet are and see if you can do that, normal person couldn't, and that is why they're famous on youtube and facebook

some of them trained even 2 sessions a day, AM and PM, squat 3x a week deadlift 3x a week

for us, just bulk up and gain strength and try to maintain strength during a cut is more than ideal already
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post Feb 14 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 14 2015, 04:04 PM)
milk powder so expensive sia, at tesco 1 sell 2KG 30 servings for RM 60+
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It's a truth that bodybuilding is something that consumes cash and shitload of time. So if you wanna do this be sure to commit a solid RM 1000/month for this sport.
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... I also take Steffi's Peanut Butter and I use to go for YoGood Peanut Butter. Steffi's Peanut Butter have less sugar content and quite high in protein, while YoGood Peanut Butter is also high in protein but also high with sugar. To me it's not really expensive cause I only finish one bottle a month with bread and egg. I don't go for too highly rated expensive gym, and only go for gym where parking is free or at least I can park somewhere for free. Once you know what equipment you need to build yourself, you don't really need expensive gym. It's more of the right gym for the right workout for you. Above average good gym is around RM80.00++ a month, which is only roughly RM3.00 a day for 3 hours, and if that is expensive then a single meal of nasi kandar for RM15.00 is even more nuts. If you love nasi kandar and have it for breakfast, lunch and dinner, the cost is roughly RM40.00 a day. Just take 10% of that and go to the gym for workout instead. It is the "time" that is consuming, because you have to be serious to do workout, and not go there and spend more time exercising your finger with the handphone, I have seen far too many doing that in the gym. As for protein gainer, go when there is a warehouse sale once a year. There is also some cheaper brand but still good enough. Everything is less than RM500++ a month because your diet will need to change to more protein base where you can get them cheaply at your friendly local store like egg, bread, lots of veggie, fruits and chicken breast or beef. Self cooking is necessary because eating out is expensive - so learning to cook is a necessity. Some cooking utensil is needed for initial investment because a person lifestyle will need to change in this new journey. Dieting is very important. Understanding calorie in and calorie out is also very important. Some people just doing office work but drink 3 can of coke each day. That person don't need so much high content sugar drink for just doing office job lah. No cigarette which is roughly RM10.00 a pack and no alcohol too which is roughly RM15.00 a bottle. It is not expensive at all if you think carefully just to have a average good body weight and better health - in fact it save more money ...

... like I say the above is for a just an average good body weight and health, because I don't really know the real cost if one want to be like THE HULK instead lah ... biggrin.gif ...

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post Feb 16 2015, 03:29 AM

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i have do some calculation on mass gainer vs 100% pure whey + dextrose

for Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155 with 12 lbs, 16 servings (2 scoops) provide 1900 calorie and 82g protein

assume you take 1 scoop per serving for 900 calorie and 40g

lets combine 100% pure whey and dextrose,
we will take ON 100% Whey that has 80 servings and provide 24g protein per scoop, so to make them equal we consume 1.67 scoop a serving that provide 40g protein, so the total servings reduced to 47.9 (aprox)

dextrose selling at 10 lbs (4.54KG) and provide 180 calorie per 46g dextrose, to get 900 calorie we need 5x 46g = 230g, we need to consume 230g dextrose a serving to get 900 calorie

10 lbs dextrose priced at $25 (RM 88) only provide 19.56 servings, so we need 2.45 bottle 10lbs dextrose with 1 bottle 100% ON Whey to get 900 calorie 40g protein with 47.9 servings total RM 386 (ASSUME WHEY DONT PROVIDE CALORIE)

to compare them in terms of calorie and protein in 1 serving (900 calorie, 40g protein)

Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155/32 = RM 4.8

100% ON Whey + Dextrose RM 386/47.9 = RM 8.1

In Conclusion : Using mass gainer is much cheaper than whey + dextrose


bro bro bro this is not broscience, this is :

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 16 2015, 03:29 AM)
i have do some calculation on mass gainer vs 100% pure whey + dextrose

for Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155 with 12 lbs, 16 servings (2 scoops) provide 1900 calorie and 82g protein

assume you take 1 scoop per serving for 900 calorie and 40g

lets combine 100% pure whey and dextrose,
we will take ON 100% Whey that has 80 servings and provide 24g protein per scoop, so to make them equal we consume 1.67 scoop a serving that provide 40g protein, so the total servings reduced to 47.9 (aprox)

dextrose selling at 10 lbs (4.54KG) and provide 180 calorie per 46g dextrose, to get 900 calorie we need 5x 46g = 230g, we need to consume 230g dextrose a serving to get 900 calorie

10 lbs dextrose priced at $25 (RM 88) only provide 19.56 servings, so we need 2.45 bottle 10lbs dextrose with 1 bottle 100% ON Whey to get 900 calorie 40g protein with 47.9 servings total RM 386 (ASSUME WHEY DONT PROVIDE CALORIE)

to compare them in terms of calorie and protein in 1 serving (900 calorie, 40g protein)

Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155/32 = RM 4.8

100% ON Whey + Dextrose RM 386/47.9 = RM 8.1

In Conclusion : Using mass gainer is much cheaper than whey + dextrose
bro bro bro this is not broscience, this is :

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If you hate food, sure. I eat 3000 calories last time when I was slow bulking. Without any max gainer.

I get to eat these for my dinner.

Spaghetti + eggs + bacon, seasoned with onion pepper.
A bowl of udon + chicken + broccoli + eggs, seasoned with korean bean paste.
My dessert was 1 scoop whey protein chocolate flavor + koko crunch + oats + muesli + yogurt.

Easily over 1000 calories for my dinner and they're delicious.

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 16 2015, 03:29 AM)
i have do some calculation on mass gainer vs 100% pure whey + dextrose

for Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155 with 12 lbs, 16 servings (2 scoops) provide 1900 calorie and 82g protein

assume you take 1 scoop per serving for 900 calorie and 40g

lets combine 100% pure whey and dextrose,
we will take ON 100% Whey that has 80 servings and provide 24g protein per scoop, so to make them equal we consume 1.67 scoop a serving that provide 40g protein, so the total servings reduced to 47.9 (aprox)

dextrose selling at 10 lbs (4.54KG) and provide 180 calorie per 46g dextrose, to get 900 calorie we need 5x 46g = 230g, we need to consume 230g dextrose a serving to get 900 calorie

10 lbs dextrose priced at $25 (RM 88) only provide 19.56 servings, so we need 2.45 bottle 10lbs dextrose with 1 bottle 100% ON Whey to get 900 calorie 40g protein with 47.9 servings total RM 386 (ASSUME WHEY DONT PROVIDE CALORIE)

to compare them in terms of calorie and protein in 1 serving (900 calorie, 40g protein)

Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155/32 = RM 4.8

100% ON Whey + Dextrose RM 386/47.9 = RM 8.1

In Conclusion : Using mass gainer is much cheaper than whey + dextrose
bro bro bro this is not broscience, this is :

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This Mass gainers may look cheap, but one thing you should know is they often lack vitamins and minerals which are found in food. E.g 100g of chicken is so much better than 1 scoop of whey.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Feb 16 2015, 11:46 AM)
This Mass gainers may look cheap, but one thing you should know is they often lack vitamins and minerals which are found in food. E.g 100g of chicken is so much better than 1 scoop of whey.
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i try to eat multivitamin to make up the vitamin deficiency, multivitamin per bottle RM 50 at guardian/watson isnt that too expensive consider 1 dinner already RM 10-20

maltodextrin is very hard to buy in malaysia and dextrose is sibeh expensive doh.gif no point making your own mass gainer

the only thing i dont like in mass gainer is they have bunch of useless ingredients doh.gif doh.gif

http://www.musclemaniaclub.net/dymatize/supermassgainer

if you do look their nutrition facts they actually contain quite alot vitamin too!

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Feb 14 2015, 05:01 PM)
this is not going to happen. at least to you, and me

research around on what their routines and diet are and see if you can do that, normal person couldn't, and that is why they're famous on youtube and facebook

some of them trained even 2 sessions a day, AM and PM, squat 3x a week deadlift 3x a week

for us, just bulk up and gain strength and try to maintain strength during a cut is more than ideal already
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hmm.gif i bet cannot follow them... hahahaha.... i ll just try and see when i ll hit my max PR while maintaining my tdee.

QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 16 2015, 11:43 AM)
If you hate food, sure. I eat 3000 calories last time when I was slow bulking. Without any max gainer.

I get to eat these for my dinner.

Spaghetti + eggs + bacon, seasoned with onion pepper.
A bowl of udon + chicken + broccoli + eggs, seasoned with korean bean paste.
My dessert was 1 scoop whey protein chocolate flavor + koko crunch + oats + muesli + yogurt.

Easily over 1000 calories for my dinner and they're delicious.
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forgot who mentioned in other thread...for 1000 calories, you can go mcchicken + fries... yay.... (trans-fat danger) tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2015, 02:47 PM

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I seriously don't see why is it so hard to hit 1k cals in a meal
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QUOTE(calapia @ Feb 16 2015, 02:23 PM)
hmm.gif  i bet cannot follow them... hahahaha.... i ll just try and see when i ll hit my max PR while maintaining my tdee.
forgot who mentioned in other thread...for 1000 calories, you can go mcchicken + fries... yay.... (trans-fat danger) tongue.gif
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Just load up all the carb a day before heavy training. I eat at my maintenance/deficit TDEE also can maintain or slightly increase in strength. Could be better if i train consistently.

p/s : it's me.. tongue.gif mcvalue set = 1,000calories.. easy & fast.. +sundae choco.. added calories.
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Thai style chicken rice with 2 eggs is already more than 800kcal in hawker centre.
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QUOTE(calapia @ Feb 16 2015, 02:23 PM)
hmm.gif  i bet cannot follow them... hahahaha.... i ll just try and see when i ll hit my max PR while maintaining my tdee.
forgot who mentioned in other thread...for 1000 calories, you can go mcchicken + fries... yay.... (trans-fat danger) tongue.gif
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You'll ended up getting more nutrients out of mcD than from mass gainers. But I didn't say anything about eating fast foods, I'm saying that you get to eat what you like to hit those caloric requirement.

Maybe this is the reason why people can't gain weight despite claiming to eat a lot. Too picky.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 16 2015, 05:17 PM)
You'll ended up getting more nutrients out of mcD than from mass gainers. But I didn't say anything about eating fast foods, I'm saying that you get to eat what you like to hit those caloric requirement.

Maybe this is the reason why people can't gain weight despite claiming to eat a lot. Too picky.
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yes yes.... eat whatever you like to hit the caloric requirement as long no sodas, biscuits or snacks..... empty calorie...
but mcD is sedap man.... :-P now i maintaining also sometimes makan mcD
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QUOTE(kshen @ Feb 16 2015, 02:47 PM)
I seriously don't see why is it so hard to hit 1k cals in a meal
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Hitting 1k cals with junk food is easy. Hitting that with actual foods, my tummy cannot take it la brother.

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