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Armesh
post Feb 12 2015, 08:04 PM

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You are over-complicating things

Just eat rice, chicken, beef, fish, veg, milk, peanut butter, bread, pasta, whey, oats, nestum, peas, etcs. Be in a surplus and done. It's like the easiest shit.

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post Feb 12 2015, 10:36 PM

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Suddenly the thread is all about me.... thank you for all the attention *touched*. Anyway please help the OP guys.

QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Feb 12 2015, 09:10 PM)
But the truth is does he even fucking lift? Lmao
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Yes I lift, it's not even my max bro.
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post Feb 13 2015, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 13 2015, 01:30 AM)
i think i will be skipping mass gainer  notworthy.gif oat is quite expensive sometimes thou, the high quality oats in my home using bg22 cost like RM 60+ per bottle 400g, i think the cheap 1 will do, anyway thanks for your reply  laugh.gif
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Anyway a solid tip I can share with you is .... get Peanut Butter! Anytime I need a calorie boost, I just sapu only, it's also high in protein.


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Just combo that with eggs and you're set. I buy the Econsave one, cheapest and great. And go get some olive oil too to drink.
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post Feb 13 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Feb 13 2015, 06:38 AM)
make sure your peanut butter is free of hydrogenated oil.
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Actually it does have hydrogenated oil. REad in Will Brink's book before it's bad but not so sure about it is that harmful. Will research.

QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 13 2015, 09:58 AM)
can i use nutella instead? calories come from fat isnt a good idea right?
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You can do a all fat protein diet also, nothing wrong. Suit yourself. As long you are in a surplus and get your 1g gram protein/pound you weight you will gain muscle.
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post Feb 13 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(calapia @ Feb 13 2015, 11:38 AM)
by the way, just a question, reading darkie stickies darklight79, he does mentioned to grow big need to eat more.... but can i just grow strong...? i can put all the macro meet.. while having the same weight but achieve heavy lift?
does it sound illogical to have small but strong muscle which can lift heavy weight ?? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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How this works is like this.

You CAN get strong running a strength program while eating at maintenance or even sometimes while cutting. But if you are cutting, you might not gain any muscle even if you gain strength. Strength is mostly CNS/neural.

On the other hand, if you run a strength program, and eat in a surplus, you will gain muscle with strength. It's all about the surplus.

This guy never eats a surplus and always trains for strength


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post Feb 14 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 14 2015, 04:04 PM)
milk powder so expensive sia, at tesco 1 sell 2KG 30 servings for RM 60+
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It's a truth that bodybuilding is something that consumes cash and shitload of time. So if you wanna do this be sure to commit a solid RM 1000/month for this sport.
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post Feb 16 2015, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(bloodchow2 @ Feb 16 2015, 03:29 AM)
i have do some calculation on mass gainer vs 100% pure whey + dextrose

for Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155 with 12 lbs, 16 servings (2 scoops) provide 1900 calorie and 82g protein

assume you take 1 scoop per serving for 900 calorie and 40g

lets combine 100% pure whey and dextrose,
we will take ON 100% Whey that has 80 servings and provide 24g protein per scoop, so to make them equal we consume 1.67 scoop a serving that provide 40g protein, so the total servings reduced to 47.9 (aprox)

dextrose selling at 10 lbs (4.54KG) and provide 180 calorie per 46g dextrose, to get 900 calorie we need 5x 46g = 230g, we need to consume 230g dextrose a serving to get 900 calorie

10 lbs dextrose priced at $25 (RM 88) only provide 19.56 servings, so we need 2.45 bottle 10lbs dextrose with 1 bottle 100% ON Whey to get 900 calorie 40g protein with 47.9 servings total RM 386 (ASSUME WHEY DONT PROVIDE CALORIE)

to compare them in terms of calorie and protein in 1 serving (900 calorie, 40g protein)

Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155/32 = RM 4.8

100% ON Whey + Dextrose RM 386/47.9 = RM 8.1

In Conclusion : Using mass gainer is much cheaper than whey + dextrose
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This Mass gainers may look cheap, but one thing you should know is they often lack vitamins and minerals which are found in food. E.g 100g of chicken is so much better than 1 scoop of whey.

 

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