one of the supplement store recommend me to take mass gainer to bulk up, so do they worth it? 1900 calorie for dymatize super mass gainer for RM 140-170. They contain loads of maltodextrin, they are basically carbohydrate but the huge differences compare this to traditional rice/oats is rate of digestion. Maltodextrin is a cheap source of carbohydrate that digest as fast as sugar according to wikipedia and it costs only $1 USD/lb while rice digest slowly, but I dont like to eat rice anyway

if I were to take mass gainers I would be taking half of the serving size of mass gainer just before weight lifting (900), breakfast (200), lunch+dinner (1400) total 2500 calorie, just above my tdee 2000 calorie to achieve calorie surplus for bulking

another more expensive alternative way is to buy 100% low carb whey protein, huge bags of oats, glucolin glucose (dextrose), full fat powdered milk and add them all together like this :

2 cups milk
0.5 cup oat
2 scoops whey protein
3 tablespoon glucose

around 1000 calorie for this shake to substitute mass gainer

glucose and table sugar is different, glucose is simple carbohydrate but the sugar that you always consume in mamak store, whatever sweet product out there is made up of table sugar thats contain basically 50% glucose and 50% fructose, fructose flood your liver so much until it develop fat

i think i will be skipping mass gainer oat is quite expensive sometimes thou, the high quality oats in my home using bg22 cost like RM 60+ per bottle 400g, i think the cheap 1 will do, anyway thanks for your reply

can i use nutella instead? calories come from fat isnt a good idea right?

milk powder so expensive sia, at tesco 1 sell 2KG 30 servings for RM 60+

i have do some calculation on mass gainer vs 100% pure whey + dextrose

for Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155 with 12 lbs, 16 servings (2 scoops) provide 1900 calorie and 82g protein

assume you take 1 scoop per serving for 900 calorie and 40g

lets combine 100% pure whey and dextrose,
we will take ON 100% Whey that has 80 servings and provide 24g protein per scoop, so to make them equal we consume 1.67 scoop a serving that provide 40g protein, so the total servings reduced to 47.9 (aprox)

dextrose selling at 10 lbs (4.54KG) and provide 180 calorie per 46g dextrose, to get 900 calorie we need 5x 46g = 230g, we need to consume 230g dextrose a serving to get 900 calorie

10 lbs dextrose priced at $25 (RM 88) only provide 19.56 servings, so we need 2.45 bottle 10lbs dextrose with 1 bottle 100% ON Whey to get 900 calorie 40g protein with 47.9 servings total RM 386 (ASSUME WHEY DONT PROVIDE CALORIE)

to compare them in terms of calorie and protein in 1 serving (900 calorie, 40g protein)

Dymatize Super Mass Gainer RM 155/32 = RM 4.8

100% ON Whey + Dextrose RM 386/47.9 = RM 8.1

In Conclusion : Using mass gainer is much cheaper than whey + dextrose


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This post has been edited by bloodchow2: Feb 16 2015, 03:35 AM

i try to eat multivitamin to make up the vitamin deficiency, multivitamin per bottle RM 50 at guardian/watson isnt that too expensive consider 1 dinner already RM 10-20

maltodextrin is very hard to buy in malaysia and dextrose is sibeh expensive no point making your own mass gainer

the only thing i dont like in mass gainer is they have bunch of useless ingredients

http://www.musclemaniaclub.net/dymatize/supermassgainer

if you do look their nutrition facts they actually contain quite alot vitamin too!

This post has been edited by bloodchow2: Feb 16 2015, 01:32 PM

how about 2 cup of oat with plainwater? thats 1k cal with healthy carb