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azriel
post Feb 10 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 10 2015, 04:04 PM)
is this spectral gunship? the ones we use in General command & counquer?
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No the AC-130 Spectre is a gunship variant of the C-130 Hercules.
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post Feb 10 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 10 2015, 05:03 PM)
new thing I learn ... never know there are 2 type of arty... are there any counter measures? kind of like can stop these arty from hitting target... ballistic missile can still be countermeasures..

do war ships/ destroyers/carriers fire arty? more often I see the arty damage is piercing effect isn't?
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there are things like counter battery fire. when artillery radar detects enemy artillery, it will send the location to the enemy for immediate response.

nowadays ship gun is smaller calliber (usually 57mm or 75mm) so it is more for direct enemy engagement(though they can be used for indirect bombardment as well). for long range engagement they rely on anti ship missile or even cruise missile

having said that

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post Feb 10 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 10 2015, 04:07 PM)
better wait few more year for Su-50/55  smile.gif 
no much different for time. event can order Su-50 now.
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tak ada lah.. suhkoi release a rather ambitious timeline where su-55 will be supplied to india on 2020, then russia on 2024

so, we want to get the two seat variant, 2025 would be the earliest date. Min 10 years from now.

if we folow our MKM path of custom avionics etc etc, add another 1 or 2 years for prototype testing and integration.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 10 2015, 04:08 PM)
No the AC-130 Spectre is a gunship variant of the C-130 Hercules.
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i see, something also about the spectral gunship, it appears it shoots out atry and rockets as well in verly fast motion and usually comes in 3 units
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 10 2015, 04:13 PM)
there are things like counter battery fire. when artillery radar detects enemy artillery, it will send the location to the enemy for immediate response.

nowadays ship gun is smaller calliber (usually 57mm or 75mm) so it is more for direct enemy engagement(though they can be used for indirect bombardment as well). for long range engagement they rely on anti ship missile or even cruise missile

having said that

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONARC
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kena cancel although it a good cost effective idea.. but zumwalt-class will have two 155mm naval gun on board but sadly canot fire land ammunition instead a specialized projectiles
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post Feb 10 2015, 04:25 PM

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IAI reveals new business jet-based maritime patrol aircraft

Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
08 February 2015

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has developed a new business jet-based maritime patrol aircraft (MPA), which it revealed on 9 February.

The EL/I-3360 MPA, which is based on the Bombardier Global 5000 business jet, features a number of IAI systems and sensors for a range of missions including maritime surveillance, anti-surface vessel warfare (ASuW), anti-submarine warfare (ASW), and search and rescue (SAR).

Specific systems comprise the ELTA ELM-2022 maritime patrol radar, an electro-optical (EO) sensor, the ELL-8385 Electronic Support Measures (ESM)/electronic intelligence (ELINT) system, an electronic warfare (EW) and self-protection suite, as well as satellite communications.

According to IAI, the integrated multimission command-and-control (C2) suite includes multipurpose operator workstations and a weapon- and store-management system, which controls the underwing hardpoints.

IAI did not disclose when its new platform might be ready for fielding, nor if any customers have been lined up.


http://www.janes.com/article/48799/iai-rev...patrol-aircraft
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post Feb 10 2015, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 10 2015, 04:15 PM)
tak ada lah.. suhkoi release a rather ambitious timeline where su-55 will be supplied to india on 2020, then russia on 2024

so, we want to get the two seat variant, 2025 would be the earliest date. Min 10 years from now.

if we folow our MKM path of custom avionics etc etc, add another 1 or 2 years for prototype testing and integration.
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there is always have time construction time slot for new coming order customer for air plane order. ..... depend deal.
unless only single order on time construction.
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post Feb 10 2015, 04:32 PM

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Indonesian Navy seeks to replace two minesweepers

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
09 February 2015

The Indonesian Navy (Tentera Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL) will soon be in the market for two mine-countermeasures vessels (MCMVs) to replace its ageing coastal minesweepers.

TNI-AL chief of staff Vice Admiral Ade Supandi told reporters that the service's Pulau Rengat (Tripartite)-class minesweepers, KRI Pulau Rengat (711) and KRI Pulau Rupat (712), are nearing the end of their service lives, and that the TNI-AL is currently in the process of initiating a procurement process to deliver two new vessels.

According to IHS Jane's Fighting Ships , the TNI-AL commissioned the two Pulau Rengat-class vessels in March 1988. The 51-m boats were ordered from Dutch shipbuilder Van Der Giessen-De Noord in 1985.


http://www.janes.com/article/48825/indones...wo-minesweepers
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 10 2015, 04:13 PM)
there are things like counter battery fire. when artillery radar detects enemy artillery, it will send the location to the enemy for immediate response.

nowadays ship gun is smaller calliber (usually 57mm or 75mm) so it is more for direct enemy engagement(though they can be used for indirect bombardment as well). for long range engagement they rely on anti ship missile or even cruise missile

having said that

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONARC
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but one pointer fires multiple arty?
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post Feb 10 2015, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 10 2015, 04:30 PM)
there is always have time construction time slot for new coming order customer for air plane order. ..... depend deal.
unless only single order on time construction.
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i would rather wait for the platform to mature before placing orders, at least until major complications involving the production model is rectified. Dont want something like f-35, countries already placed orders when the plane is having so many issues at the moment

You dont want something that suffer from engine fire right laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Its easy if you meant to test productivity and efficiency, you got a good platform now - donbass, donetsk, lugansk etc.

imho, all cartoon simulation is not war ready until they are tested in real scenario.

oh gosh, su-25 just dropped!
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Asia Offshore Patrol Vessels And Corvette Market Report 2015
“The demand for corvettes in the Asian region outstrips every other region in terms both of numbers and operational requirements”
Asian Military Review

The Asia Pacific region, and especially South East Asia, is one of the busiest sea channels in the world, with over 1000 vessels passing through the Singapore and Malacca Straits each day. There, both Navies and Coast Guards conduct a myriad
of maritime operations, in a bid to enhance maritime security and maritime domain awareness.

In addition to protecting the exclusive economic zones (EEZs) of each country, a major security issue in the region is piracy. Although stories of piracy in the Gulf of Aden dominate western media, a report by the International Maritime Bureau (IMB) revealed that Asia accounted for around 75 percent of global maritime piracy and robbery incidents in 2014.

Of 245 actual and attempted acts of piracy worldwide last year, 183 of those occurred in Asian waters. Given that a third of the world’s oil supply passes through the region, regional countries have a strong interest in protecting trade routes

In this 16 page report written by Thomas Withington, Editor, Asian Military Review and Richard Pain, Digital Content Editor, IQPC get a comprehensive overview and learn more about the future of offshore patrol vessels in the Asia pacific region.




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post Feb 10 2015, 08:09 PM

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post Feb 10 2015, 08:57 PM

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bro, kalau nak letak news. at least organise lah sikit with quoto text and bold headline..
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post Feb 10 2015, 10:10 PM

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Spanish foreign minister: EU has lost 21 Billion Euros due to lost trade with Russia caused by US-led sanctions
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Spain has warned that the European Union has lost billions of euros as a result of the sanctions the bloc has imposed against Russia over Moscow’s alleged role in Ukraine’s crisis.

“Sanctions have had a heavy cost for us all,” Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo said in Brussels on Monday.

Spain’s top diplomat added that “the EU has so far lost about 21 billion euros ($23.7 billion USD) due to loss of access to Russian markets. In Spain we have been badly hit in terms of agriculture and tourism.”

The figure represented the first account of the monetary loss caused to the EU due to the tough economic sanctions it has been progressively imposing on Russia since July 2014.

The Western powers have been accusing Moscow of playing a role in the deadly crisis in eastern Ukraine, which erupted when Kiev launched military operations in April last year to silence pro-Russia protests. The Kremlin denies the accusation.

Russia has, in retaliation, imposed a full year-long ban of European Union, US, Australian, Canadian, and Norwegian food exports to the country.

Amid fears on the major losses part of some EU members on the loss of trade ties with Moscow, the bloc has agreed to postpone new sanctions against Russia to give time to see if a four-way Ukraine peace summit on February 11 makes progress.
US seems perfectly willing to screw over the EU just to piss off Russia. Hope EU politicians grow some balls and work about their own interests rather than US interests. The simple fact is Europe cannot survive without Russia. If the EU tanks over and sinks because of US vendetta to Moscow, US won't be too much affected by the after-effects, hope EU sees that fact before it's too late.

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post Feb 10 2015, 10:36 PM

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21 billion is change money for EU
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Greexit will lead to downfall of EU which having spanish, italy and more to follow.

The fact is, EU is reluctant to follow suit US's decision having them as stakeholders for all these sanctions.

Russia been selling cheap oils for sometimes and imho, Russian is leading this crisis.

Russia 1:0 US / EU
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 10 2015, 10:10 PM)
Spanish foreign minister: EU has lost 21 Billion Euros due to lost trade with Russia caused by US-led sanctions
US seems perfectly willing to screw over the EU just to piss off Russia. Hope EU politicians grow some balls and work about their own interests rather than US interests. The simple fact is Europe cannot survive without Russia. If the EU tanks over and sinks because of US vendetta to Moscow, US won't be too much affected by the after-effects, hope EU sees that fact before it's too late.
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US is afraid of a strong EU, the strongest union of states is US and to a certain extent next is china and EU.. EU's GDP is bigger than US and if EU unite the world would have another super power to counter US. Heading EU are germany, france that most of the time dont follow US' decisions, not forgetting in 30-50 years time EU would be in the hands of a muslim majority which posses a treat to US.

QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 10 2015, 10:36 PM)
21 billion is change money for EU
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the loss comes from EU which could have been used to bail out Greece... US ntg to lose and all to gain
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Russia's modest proposal to Greece( and any interested countries): Exit Europe and we will lift food export ban

Russia told a beleaguered Greece, and specifically its hurting agricultural sector, that it "may lift its ban on food imports from Greece in the event it quits the European Union" according to Russian Minister of Agriculture Nikolai Fyodorov who spoke in Berlin on Friday.

“If Greece has to leave the European Union, we will build our own relations with it, the food ban will not be applicable to it,” Fyodorov said as reported by Tass.

In other words, Russia has casually thrown out feelers to Greece (and any other peripheral European country) and given it the option of joining the greater Russian sphere of influence (because the USSR 2.0 is still not trademarked), should it decide that 5 years after the first Greek "bailout" things for the country caught in an endless depression are as good as they will get with a bunch of Goldman bankers in charge.

Fyodorov also said that European Union countries, which felt discomfort from the slump in proceeds from exports of foods to Russia, were asking Russia to cushion the impacts of the Russian food import ban by expanding other types of imports. “We are looking at such possibility,” he said, adding that these countries offer new formats of cooperation in those areas that are not covered by the Russian food sanctions.

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