BBC: Only a single road left for Ukraine government troops in Debaltsevo


A pro-Russian sniper walks alongside a knocked out MT-LB armored personnel carrier on the outskirts of the town of Oglegorsk, near Debaltsevo

The rebels said on Monday that they had cut off the final supply road to Debaltseve, a strategic railway junction, which is near the rebel-held city of Donetsk. However, Ukraine's military told the BBC that the battle was continuing.

Military spokesman Olexandr Matuzyanyk told the BBC "there is fighting going on for this road at the moment".

Thousands of Ukrainian troops are believed to be in Debaltseve and the nearby area. Heavy fighting has been raging there for more than a week, with the rebels gaining some ground.

Ukrainian government officials say nine soldiers and at least seven civilians have been killed in fighting over the last 24 hours.

fuiyoh!!! macam ww2 artillery je

they probably wont get more than 12 units... also their economy is much larger with lower deficit n debt

su-30 would be our primary choice, the two seat variant

su-35 is single seat

x ready lg kot.

besides what's weird with that. indon CN-235 lost to EADS C295 in pinoy light tactical airlift tender yet it's the indon C-295 one that shows for exhibition/demo in pilippines

i not sure wat i saying is true but one comment i get from a military personal before is

Indonesia buying and our buying style are different

ours, is gradual buying process meaning there major advance procurement every 5 years or so following our RMK plan and timeline.

Indonesia is slow then reach a certain period they will buy big, real big then slow down again, also very depending on economy and who is the president

is like kumpul duit dulu, and spend one go while ours is slowly buy bit by bits.

well at least it still a P-8, dapat hidu juga

If we were to buy which is highly unlikely, most likely will also be Neptune variant offered to india.

maybe indon will be making the c-295 for pinoy since they can license built them anyway

Missing in the list is two unknown US navy ship.. wonder who will come LIMA 2015

This post has been edited by thpace: Feb 10 2015, 03:31 PM

Stunning Hi-Res live firing photos by Moo Pheromon of the Royal Thai Army's T-84 Oplot-M.



The rest of photos here: http://pantip.com/topic/32793965

This post has been edited by azriel: Feb 10 2015, 03:34 PM

don't think so. EADS dun give permission to IPTN to sell C-295. IPTN only made for indon air force only.

if not they wont be competing for pinoy tender

Currently government emphasis more on public transportation.
As for military I think it will more on esscom.
Apparently the government wanted a significant improvement on the cas at esscom.

c-295 is the bigger version of c-235, maybe that why they get even though from the same family

anyway, pocket gunship for jordon, will be use to rain down on ISIS

guys if artillery range is maximum how much, if we launch 50 heavy artillery one shot.. are the any counter measures to it? well we know that the long range missile

Such role will be fill by aw109, nuri and blackhawk.
not sure if the got plan buying little bird.
if they have such plan I think they will buy more than the suggested amount.

The above CGI pic is actually of an AC235 (a gunship variant of the CN235).

Here are the photos of the AC235 weapons & interior: http://korearms.egloos.com/1208023

yup instead making strong in miliratary with mere paper effect, escomm should be reinforced.. at least settle with border safety and security,

saw Isreal drone guns.. perhaps we should buy more of this? do the pirates by sulu and its counterparts play rockets?

let see wat deal will be signed during LIMA 2015, dengar kata a few of probable deals will be signed even ones with DSME on our 6 missile corvette

all is hear say only

ya i know, the picture link mentioned it a modified c-235

well jordon, going to put it on their c-295 while the c-235 more of a test bed system

just wondering why they opt for the apache 30mm gun instead of more punch atk bushmaster 4 40mm cannon, Rate of fire? accuracy? Price?

This post has been edited by thpace: Feb 10 2015, 04:00 PM

depends. tube arty or rocket arty?

tube arty can reach up to 100km (with RAP round). rocket arty can reach up to 3x that range

new thing I learn ... never know there are 2 type of arty... are there any counter measures? kind of like can stop these arty from hitting target... ballistic missile can still be countermeasures..

do war ships/ destroyers/carriers fire arty? more often I see the arty damage is piercing effect isn't?

is this spectral gunship? the ones we use in General command & counquer?

better wait few more year for Su-50/55
no much different for time. event can order Su-50 now.