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post Oct 29 2006, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(radical85 @ Oct 28 2006, 10:15 PM)
i cant see any way to bypass the throttling. As u can see they done the capping at international level, i believes every connection in the country have to go through tat capping b4 they reroute us to the rest of the world. Yes there is a lot of channel out there but they are own by our tmnet (correct me if im wrong)

And yes, most asian country dont really give a damn to the ranting of the customer. U can rant all u wan, all they will reply is tat u can stop using the broadband service if u wan. They dont really care if they lose customers from the minority of the minority. The best part about malaysian is, when a new issue arises, every1 will make a big fuss about it. But trust me, every1 will eventually forget about it after some time.... in tis case it makes no different at all. After perhaps few months from now, u guys will give up complaining to tmnet!
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other matters, most probably - yes.
regarding p2p throttling - i believe the answer is.. no.
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post Oct 29 2006, 03:26 AM

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u believe.... so how many of us actually called to customer service n enquire till they get to talk to someone who has authority (eg. someone incharge like the manager etc...) like 30% of the normal user will call the customer help line. 10% will actually get to hear from the auto reply machine, 5% more wil actually demand that they need to talk to some1 incharge. so the chances tat they will consider ur demand is like less than 0.01% from the total user of tmnet broadband?
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post Oct 29 2006, 01:37 PM

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My speed has been very good lately biggrin.gif

Can download a 700MB torrent in one night...previously it took the whole week to finish the download..
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post Oct 29 2006, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(hardyboyz888 @ Sep 29 2006, 08:46 PM)
True but well, if you are going to post a link for a legal file then it should be alright but I see most users are downloading copyright materials which is suppose to be illegal.
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This leads to nowhere 'cause 95%(my estimate) of the stuff are copyright including a simple ebook\manual.
Even very old TV shows\serial\anime\programs are copyright.Except the owners probably doesn't want to take action
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post Oct 29 2006, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Oct 29 2006, 06:43 PM)
This leads to nowhere 'cause 95%(my estimate) of the stuff are copyright including a simple ebook\manual.
Even very old TV shows\serial\anime\programs are copyright.Except the owners probably doesn't want to take action
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Just because the show are copyrighted doesn't mean is illegal to download them. It is only illegal if the M'sian government (or a local distributor or someone locally) pay the copyright, license fees and etc to the show makers.

I could say a ton on this topic. But if anyone wants to be sure, go check the Fair Use Act for copyrighted material. To be short if the source of the file is from a TV channel or station there is a good chance is legal.

Download the show, Buy the DVDs and don't pay for pirated stuff. smile.gif


BTW Fair Use Act covers stuff like books, ebook, other suff on paper diffrently from stuff like TV Show, music and movies.

This post has been edited by omikron: Oct 29 2006, 10:21 PM
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post Oct 30 2006, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Oct 29 2006, 06:43 PM)
This leads to nowhere 'cause 95%(my estimate) of the stuff are copyright including a simple ebook\manual.
Even very old TV shows\serial\anime\programs are copyright.Except the owners probably doesn't want to take action
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If it's older than 50 years then it's public domain because its copyright has ran out.

Another surprising thing that is free is the space flight game from 1997 Freespace 2. Yes, it's really free. The company made it free for download. You can download it thru bittorrent.

Damn, this thread has really gone off topic a page ago. Should make a new thread for this.

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post Oct 30 2006, 06:48 AM

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omikron, imo we are gettin' and redistributin' the file at the same time with p2p. Even if someone is willing to share copyrighted stuff with you, they would want you to visit their websites or something.

So I guess under fair use act they don't allow redistribution, if you don't get it from them in the first place.
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post Oct 30 2006, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(skiver @ Oct 30 2006, 06:48 AM)
omikron, imo we are gettin' and redistributin' the file at the same time with p2p.  Even if someone is willing to share copyrighted stuff with you, they would want you to visit their websites or something.

So I guess under fair use act they don't allow redistribution, if you don't get it from them in the first place.
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Fair use Act is design for user of meterial. Doesn't care where you get it (that under icensing). It cover what you already have. Let discuss the legal stuff here. icon_rolleyes.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=360067


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post Oct 30 2006, 06:32 PM

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Everyone, throttling is not happening only in Malaysia but many other countries.

Been trying out a few way to bypass this. I am currently using bitcomet as my BT client. The far most efficient method as highlighted in the previous post might be http-tunelling. Encrypting BT transfer does not work for me and so far no 1 has posted a practical solution so is something that works for me:

1) Go to http://www.http-tunnel.com/html
2) Download the client and install it
3) Go to http://www.http-tunnel.com/phpbb2/viewforu...ca8d26a07e06cac to view on how to set your P2P client to work with this.

For faster speed you will need to subscribe but it has greatly improved my downloading speed. Instead of 2-3 kbps i am now getting about 40-50 kbps which may not be better than before the throtlling before but it definitely helps.

Untill some1 can come up with a better solution to workaround the throtlling issue hope this will helps. smile.gif
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post Oct 30 2006, 06:40 PM

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urmm.......wht can i do to improve the speed...i see al you guys with high speeds but i dunno how you do it can someone guide me?
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post Oct 30 2006, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Oct 29 2006, 02:37 PM)
My speed has been very good lately biggrin.gif

Can download a 700MB torrent in one night...previously it took the whole week to finish the download..
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post Oct 31 2006, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(Neoitd @ Oct 30 2006, 06:32 PM)
... subscribe but it has greatly improved my downloading speed. Instead of 2-3 kbps i am now getting about 40-50 kbps which may not be better than before the throtlling before but it definitely helps. ..
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I guessing you get 1mb line. Are you getting that kind of speed for all you torrent file? How many transfer you run at the same time? I like to know your result since I'm using the same thing too. Cause my speed vary a lot.
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post Oct 31 2006, 10:38 AM

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"Neoitd" mind to share
u used free version or subscribe version
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post Oct 31 2006, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(epul @ Oct 31 2006, 10:38 AM)
"Neoitd" mind to share
u used free version or subscribe version
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definitely subscribe version.. the free version of http-tunneling is hopeless.. the most u can get is 2-5kbs only..
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post Oct 31 2006, 12:27 PM

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Im using the 1mb line. Currently using the free version of http-tunnel. Average speed im getting is about 30-50k. Previously without the throttling i get an average of 60-70k. So i guess its better than nothing cause without http-tunnel im only getting 5k max for combined download on my bt.
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post Oct 31 2006, 01:46 PM

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OK besides HTTP-Tunnel and Relakss, any other service that I would think of subscribing to bypass the throttling? I've been throttled by a month and a half already, I seriously doubt they will unthrottle me at all, free proxy has been working, but usually it doesnt. So i rather get a paid service now to recover my speed. At least it will be stabil and available most of the time.

So what should I go for?

Some proxy enables me to recover up to max of my speed, which is around 170kb/s of downloads. Which service should I go for?
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post Oct 31 2006, 03:39 PM

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in term or price http-tunnel is cheaper than relakks
for relakks u can use either l2tp or pptp connection
relakks connection can consider not that stable. sometime it will disconnect it self
maybe those using http-tunnel can give pro and con
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post Oct 31 2006, 04:55 PM

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Can someone find confirmation regarding the shaping whether permanent or temporarily until end of the year?
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post Oct 31 2006, 05:01 PM

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i asked my friend that work at tmnut.
he said most propably it will be permanent cos tmnut want to get rid p2p application
so if this info correct than u need to subscribe something in order to bypass the shaping
but dont blame me if this info is wrong

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If really going to be permanent then i'll work something out soon. Otherwise, it'd be useless.

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