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post Oct 3 2006, 09:10 AM

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I have thought of a way to bypass the shaping but haven't tested it. Wait for my news.
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post Oct 3 2006, 11:56 PM

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Alright fellas, i have tested the solution that i mentioned before. It may be not a very good news.

I believe in the past few days my BT download rate has never reached 8 KBps. After i tried the solution, i only managed to get the max. speed of 20 KBps . So, I consider it as not a very viable solution as it takes a lot of resources and i read that azureus user can get up to 50 KBps using LAN leech feature. Result might be different with your experiment though.

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- The software is still in testing mode, it's called TOR (The Onion Router)
- I'm running it on P3 550 Mhz machine with 128 MB RAM.
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(kramuse @ Oct 4 2006, 12:17 AM)
virtual, I have tried TOR and I2P. both dont seem to have any difference. sad.gif
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What is the speed you're getting? I'm connecting to mostly international peers and getting around 15 KBps in average.

Ups, i just read your post. Seems like better use azureus, doesn't it? Forgot to tell that I'm using utorrent 1.6. smile.gif

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post Oct 4 2006, 12:51 AM

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Kramuse,
I definitely get a better download speed after using TOR. In the past few days, I've never got > 8 KBps in total.

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post Oct 4 2006, 09:18 AM

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Hi guys, the TOR software is unstable at least on my machine. After a few hours, it crashed and I'm back to the shitty speed < 5 KBps. I might try the unix version later on pessimistly.

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post Oct 7 2006, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Oct 7 2006, 02:52 AM)
You called that bad?
This is what I'll say Screwed dling speed...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Even with proxy...
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Not that bad mate, I would be happy if i can download at 15 KB/s in total. I usually get around 5 KB/s
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post Oct 12 2006, 04:06 PM

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Honestly, I actually thought of providing VPN access for people who wants to download faster. But the poll thread regarding secure tunneling discouraged me to do so. Too less clients, I'll be bankrupt in few months as I have to rent datacentre outside Malaysia which doesn't throttle P2P traffic. LOL.

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post Oct 12 2006, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(ocdetective @ Oct 12 2006, 04:13 PM)
Virtual, based on the prices I have seen for dedicated server host - you could get together say 10 people and split the cost and would work out at less than $5USD per month (from a German server).
I am taking my own route at the moment which is ST and as a backup looking at using a secure shell and tunneling through to it using puTTY with my bittorrent client using the secure shell address as proxy.
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Are you sure about that? I couldn't find a dedicated connection + server rental for < USD 150 a month. If I charge fellas here for USD 10, I still need > 15 people.
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post Oct 12 2006, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(tangent709 @ Oct 12 2006, 04:22 PM)
Using a shell account would probably give you more long-term consistent speeds than the 3rd party tunnel services that have been discussed. Any recommendations for an affordable host?
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We're not talking about 3rd party tunnel services but a dedicated server which we configure ourselves. smile.gif
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post Oct 13 2006, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 12 2006, 04:41 PM)
too less clients ??
no at all. people are crazy for bt. without bt, life is meanless.
TM will gonna BLOCK bt once and forever.

bt fans will definite agree to pay more ( but with reasonable price around usd5 per month).

if you can provide a REAL SUCCESSFUL tunnel to bypass TM's throttle for 24 hour maximum speed + unlimited download.

I will be your first customer and follow by thousand/million others thumbup.gif
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If you can find me a dedicated server rental with unmetered bandwidth and allow P2P traffic for < $50 (with free setup fee), then I'll do it. If you can gather > 40 ppl then the rental can be ~$200. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 31 2006, 04:55 PM

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Can someone find confirmation regarding the shaping whether permanent or temporarily until end of the year?
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post Oct 31 2006, 05:18 PM

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If really going to be permanent then i'll work something out soon. Otherwise, it'd be useless.
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post Nov 6 2006, 04:13 PM

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As far as i know, there's no possible way to know whether normal or p2p traffic is running inside a secure tunnel. TMNet can of course cap the tunnel but that means corporate users who use secure tunneling technology to transfer their data will be affected.
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post Nov 6 2006, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(tirumisu @ Nov 6 2006, 05:05 PM)
Well you see problem is very few companies use VPN to send large amounts of data.Even for banks a dedicated dual channel 128kbps ISDN line will work for transfering databases across branches.Of course more is better.

The VPN just works like a pipe.Virtual as it implies, it creates a non physical pipe/tunnel/connection between you and the secure server.It's basically a proxy so at the end of the day it still depends on TMnet's network to connect you to the overseas server.Data that is being send across the connection established between you and the server is encrypted.The only benefit that you'll get is that the data is only between you and the tuneling service provider.They'll provide the necessary connection to the servers/peers you request to connect to and send it back to you over the secured link without your isp,the government and 3rd parties from knowing unless they are capable of intercepting these packets.

Earlier we used this tunneling service because it could hide P2P packets from being detected by TMnet's P2P filtering solution.But it's a matter of time before they'll notice about the high bandwidth/traffic of users connecting to these secure tunneling servers.All they have to do is to shape the connection speed to these server ips and poof! we get throttled once again.Even if your tunneling service client can establish multiple connections back to its server, you're back to square one when your overseas connection is limited.
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What you were saying is right. But, do they have the right to do so? I meant who knows what the VPN users doing. If they transfer large data for research, who knows? Is it legal to do so?
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post Nov 6 2006, 07:54 PM

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That's exactly my point. TMNet not supposed to throttle VPN but hell, who knows what will they do next.
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post Nov 7 2006, 03:12 PM

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One thing though, how come some areas are not throttled yet? Cyberjaya you can only get 5-8 KBps
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post Nov 8 2006, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Nov 7 2006, 03:25 PM)
Bcoz TMNet is thorttling all those high bandwidth use areas first, and never bother with those area that has low broadband penetrations (yes this CONTRDICT on what they say distrubuting it equally)
Good explanation. I think Cyberjaya is one of the area throttled first. It's even nearer to their office/centre. sad.gif
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post Nov 9 2006, 11:12 PM

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If you guys can gather USD 200 / month, i can setup a fast and stable vpn for you. It'd be based on OpenVPN, not lousy PPTP nor L2TP. The server would be in Europe with unmetered 100 Mbps connection. For optimum performance, you all shouldn't be more than 20 people. Payment has to be made in 3 months period as i don't have money to cover for you all. smile.gif

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post Nov 10 2006, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Nov 9 2006, 11:43 PM)
200/20 = 10usd per person
10 x 3.8 = about Rm40 per months..
That's expensive sweat.gif
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Dedicated server is, try google with keyword '100 unmetered dedicated sever'. smile.gif
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post Nov 10 2006, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Nov 9 2006, 11:43 PM)
200/20 = 10usd per person
10 x 3.8 = about Rm40 per months..
That's expensive sweat.gif
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Or if you have a dedicated server which doesn't throttle bittorrent also can. You gather users, manage $$$ and everything, i just need superuser account, flexibility in choosing the OS and creating my own vpn accounts. Fair enough? smile.gif

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