Sabah is also affected by TMnut shaping since last week. I have been using the proxy method and it works well but speed is not consistent.
How to bypass TMNet torrent shaping / throttling?, NEWBIE - Read 1st Post
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 Oct 13 2006, 02:23 PM
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Oct 13 2006, 03:06 PM
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need to pay only can use relakks ?
no trial ? using this thinggy will increase my latency or not My connection -> streamyx ISP -> relakks ISP -> to host right ? anyone want to share relakks a/c with me ( of coz i pay ) plz send me a pm we talk in PM. This post has been edited by Suk: Oct 13 2006, 03:13 PM |
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Oct 13 2006, 04:13 PM
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well, i got a trial from www.hostck.com
how it works 1. register & pay 2. upload torrent 3. HostCK will behalf of u download the file from their svr to thier harddisk( eg. L0$t S3 ) 4. once completed the drama series or files 5. now u can download the files via ftp. 5a. U can also search for other HostCK users dir holder too, if they got the existing files. u can download it via ftp svr. This post has been edited by Suk: Oct 13 2006, 04:28 PM |
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Oct 13 2006, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Suk @ Oct 13 2006, 04:13 PM) well, i got a trial from www.hostck.com Very hard like that. need to have a really patient in yr self.how it works 1. register & pay 2. upload torrent 3. HostCK will behalf of u download the file from their svr to thier harddisk( eg. L0$t S3 ) 4. once completed the drama series or files 5. now u can download the files via ftp. 5a. U can also search for other HostCK users dir holder too, if they got the existing files. u can download it via ftp svr.  cos this is consider double handling. wasting time as for me |
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Oct 13 2006, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 12 2006, 04:41 PM) too less clients ?? If you can find me a dedicated server rental with unmetered bandwidth and allow P2P traffic for < $50 (with free setup fee), then I'll do it. If you can gather > 40 ppl then the rental can be ~$200. no at all. people are crazy for bt. without bt, life is meanless. TM will gonna BLOCK bt once and forever. bt fans will definite agree to pay more ( but with reasonable price around usd5 per month). if you can provide a REAL SUCCESSFUL tunnel to bypass TM's throttle for 24 hour maximum speed + unlimited download. I will be your first customer and follow by thousand/million others   |
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Oct 13 2006, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(Suk @ Oct 13 2006, 04:13 PM) well, i got a trial from www.hostck.com Hope you post the result after using the account for a few days, like speed and stablity etc. I'm trying something similar too.how it works 1. register & pay 2. upload torrent 3. HostCK will behalf of u download the file from their svr to thier harddisk( eg. L0$t S3 ) 4. once completed the drama series or files 5. now u can download the files via ftp. 5a. U can also search for other HostCK users dir holder too, if they got the existing files. u can download it via ftp svr. |
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Oct 13 2006, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(omikron @ Oct 13 2006, 04:55 PM) Hope you post the result after using the account for a few days, like speed and stablity etc. I'm trying something similar too. Their BT Client can get 600kb/s at the moment. ( i think can get more than that )ftp to my pc using 218.111 ip range is totally SUX.. i'm getting alot of timeout & slow download speed from the ftp svr using the download manager. He ( the owner ) is m'sian ask me to use 219.95 ip to download files from his ftp svr. but i ccan only conencted to 218 / 60 ip range only Pro's Expensive. RM60 per month a lot of timeout ping to his svr u are doubling the works This post has been edited by Suk: Oct 13 2006, 07:22 PM |
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Oct 13 2006, 05:55 PM
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Bro at the moment how fast u ftp dl from that hostck
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Oct 13 2006, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Suk @ Oct 13 2006, 03:06 PM) My connection -> streamyx ISP -> relakks ISP -> to host right ? anyone want to share relakks a/c with me ( of coz i pay ) plz send me a pm we talk in PM. |
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Oct 13 2006, 07:54 PM
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for hostck.com
if they can host their torrentflux server(media1) at their webserver (www.hostck.com) i believe it will be great... less hops, no timeout and better ping.... compare to media1 torrentflux server... |
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Oct 13 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(virtual @ Oct 13 2006, 04:54 PM) If you can find me a dedicated server rental with unmetered bandwidth and allow P2P traffic for < $50 (with free setup fee), then I'll do it. If you can gather > 40 ppl then the rental can be ~$200. y dont u create a poll.. dat should tell u the demand  |
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Oct 13 2006, 09:11 PM
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Hello All, I've been going through this post and have a couple of questions (as I haven't seen it spoken on directly):
Is TMnut doing this to all subscribers; regardless of "package" (like we have "unlimited" here in the office; and I have "unlimited" StreamyHex at home)? While at work running SuSe10.1 on laptop and WinXP Pro on desktop I noticed while doing updates all the YaST fetching (or Smart etc) hover around 5kb dl; while Winblows Updates seems to run per normal. Any ideas why this is? Other then that thanks in advance... looks like SSH is the way to go since TMnut wants to be so shady... |
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Oct 13 2006, 09:17 PM
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the proxy methods works for me, i can get up to 40++kbps, without it i get like overall 3kbs speed. i dont have a credit card so this can do for now, this is horrible ;(
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Oct 13 2006, 09:20 PM
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Some comments to consider:
1. Use a paid for proxy service. Forget about the free proxies. Make sure the paid-for proxy service allow for big bandwidth throughput - some don't. For example FindNot states for fair use, clients should not be downloading more than 1 GB a day, although they remain flexible if there are spikes in excess of this amount, if the spikes are not frequent. Check their various packages on offer - try and get the ones with stated server ports. You will need that to forward the ports to your local ports as stated in your client. 2. Get a good line. This means, depending on your area, to test your connection with a broadband meter service before you begin your torrents. Try and find out the geographical location of your selected proxy server. There are differences in speeds when you are connecting to US servers, European servers and Asian servers with the same Streamyx IP number. Run WHOIS or TRACEROUTE or whatever to find where the server is and check that you have a good speed with your connection. If not, reset your telephone line to your modem to change the IP number. You can have a good speed connection to a US server but a bad connection to a european server. So if your proxy server is in Europe, make sure your speed is good for the european connection. 3. Get file from a good tracker. Similar files taken from different tracker sites can vary in speeds due to the different composition of seeders and peers. If you don't get good speeds, try another file of the same content from a different tracker. 4. Try to download one file at a time. Loading up with too many files can severely lag the proxy servers. Remember, in effect, the proxy server is serving as your second ISP for your client. 5. Use a client like Azureus that will allow you to set the proxy settings within the program. This allows you to use your normal Streamyx connection for other net surfing purposes. Do not run your entire connection through the proxy server as this will impact on your whole surfing experience. So, only your torrent client is proxified. 6. My results: Start of torrent  End of Torrent  7. If you have a friend/relative overseas, try and convince them to run a proxy server for you. This works if a) your friend/relative is computer network savvy b) they are really friendly with you and will do you the favour c) their computers are on 24/7 d) they have bigger bandwidth than they can ever use and e) they are also not throttled by their respective ISPs. 8. The day of big fat meals are long gone. Get used to dieting.  |
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Oct 13 2006, 09:23 PM
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anyone can log in to relakks now?
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Oct 13 2006, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(juine @ Oct 13 2006, 09:23 PM) anyone can log in to relakks now? nope.. |
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Oct 14 2006, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 11 2006, 10:13 PM) Tuan/Puan, Senang cerita..saya telah bayar STREAMYx setiap bulan...Terima kasih kerana mengirim e-mel kepada pihak kami. Kami memohon maaf di atas kelewatan membalas e-mel ini. Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, kami memahami masalah yang anda hadapi di dalam menakses sebarang aktiviti P2P. Kepadatan trafik daripada aktiviti P2P sebenarnya akan menyesakkan lagi talian internet di mana 20% pengguna sebenarnya menggunakan 80% daripada jumlah keseluruhan "bandwidth" pengguna yang lain. Memandangkan jumlah pengguna jalur lebar adalah semakin meningkat, lebih ramai pengguna dijangkakan akan menggunakan perisian P2P seperti Kazaa dan juga Bit Torrent untuk membuat transaksi fail/data secara "online". Pada kebiasaannya, perisian/aktiviti ini akan dibiarkan berjalan sepanjang hari bagi tujuan muat turun data/fail dan berikutan dengan itu, lebih banyak "bandwidth" diperlukan berbanding dengan pengguna yang hanya menggunakan internet bagi tujuan "surfing" mahupun "chatting". Negara-negara maju sekalipun yang mana mempunyai kadar penembusan jalur lebar yang tinggi akan menghadapi masalah yang sama disebabkan pengguna jalur lebar mempunyai keupayaan untuk menyalahgunakan "bandwidth". Adalah dimaklumkan bahawa kami bukan tidak memihak kepada pengguna-pengguna yang menggunakan P2P tetapi ia merupakan suatu situasi yang tidak adil bagi kepentingan pihak minoriti memandangkan kami tidak dapat menaiktaraf infrastuktur bagi tujuan tersebut. Disebabkan itu, kami telah mengambil jalan untuk menghadkan penguasaan terhadap aplikasi berkenaan. Objektif utama pengawalan penguasaan pada sesetengah link adalah untuk mengurangkan kapasiti kepadatan dan pada masa yang sama membolehkan manstabilkan kualiti perkhidmatan untuk semua pengguna. Pengawalan ini dilihat seperti suatu keperluan memandangkan sifat P2P yang mana menggunakan setiap bandwidth yang ada dan sekiranya dibiarkan tanpa kawalan, ianya akan menyesakkan talian dengan lebih teruk dan akan menyebabkan gangguan pada aplikasi/talian yang lain pula. Malangnya, mekanisma pengawalan ini tidak boleh membezakan jenis talian/aplikasi dan ianya akan mengawal segala-galanya termasuk aktiviti e-mel, ftp, "web browsing" mahupun "video streaming". TM Net telah membuang penyekatan terhadap aktiviti "upload" bagi semua link, tetapi kami masih mengekalkan pengawalan untuk aktiviti "download". Pengawalan ini akan dibuang sejurus selepas kami dapat menambah kapasiti "bandwidth" untuk talian antarabangsa yang dijangkakan sedia beroperasi pada penghujung tahun ini. Kami berharap penjelasan yang diberikan dapat menghuraikan segala pertanyaan anda. Bagi pihak TM Net, kami memohon maaf di atas segala kesulitan yang timbul. Kami akan sentiasa memperbaiki mutu perkhidmatan yang diberikan kepada pelanggan kami. Sekiranya terdapat sebarang pertanyaan atau maklum balas, sila layari laman web www.tm.net.my dan klik "Need Help? Contact our Customer Service". Kami berharap agar sentiasa dapat memberikan perkhidmatan yang terbaik. Yang benar, Narati Samuri Customer Care Support, TM Net Sdn. Bhd. www.tm.net.my (ICOMS#2857612-246085) Streamyx...apa salah saya gunakan P2p//Bit torrent saya ada bayar dan ini ialah Hak kami....KAMI ada Bayar dan telah muatkan Mulut korang!!!!!!!!!!  Saya guna bukan free tau..!! Kenapa service korang teruk sangat?? Kenapa service korang teruk sangat?? Dah leh service teruk lepas itu nak salahkan pengguna streamyx yang guna P2p//Bit torrent !!! Adakah negara asing sama dengan kita,korang kerja service sangat teruk kamu tahu tak ?? Streamyx Sdn Bhd bangun lah..jangan sesekali salahkan kita...kita ada bayar...dan telah muatkan mulut korang(Streamyx Sdn Bhd ) SAYA memag rasa marah........................sekali........... Itu leh perangai kamu kerja terhegei-hegei...Buat streamyx macam itu..suka hati..tidak FIKIR akibat...kamu ingat kita bodoh?? katak di bawah temperung ?? Tak erti guna P2p//Bit torrent...lepas itu biarkan saja?? Dan buktir //akibat dah keluar pada hari ini... SELEPAs itu salah kami......BODOh lah stupid... |
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Oct 14 2006, 12:39 AM
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dude, chill man...
The situation rite now actually is bad for both, the ISP and the Users...P2P is the technology(not to be blamed), but with any technology, it comes with 'weaknesses' to the extent that it can be abused or exploited. Not to blamed the users, but many of them never realised. Any broadband provider will oversubscribe their bandwidth, since broadband is treated as best effort basis (at least by TMNet). And, for MCMC regulation, the requirement (latency and bandwidth) only cover connection inside the TMNet connection locally. Yeah, we, the users should be able to do what ever we want to do, but the call still comes from the provider, the infra owner. P2P is here to stay, no matter what. So, i strongly believe, ISP should have another way of letting the users keep on connecting to the peers swarm, maybe thru diff packages. Customers are not stupid, and the ISP as well. So, just take it positive way, and let them do their work, while in the meantime, we can always have good discussion and maybe to propose to TMNet about our requirement (instead of sending them complaints only) Personally, i think their problem is more on the cost. AFAIK, on internatonal gway (core router) would cost them 4mil. And they need at least 2 of that box each site. Not to forget, the cost of maintaining, and repair from time to time. That does not include the links to be rent/purchased from cable providers at foreign sites. The other ISP might charge them as well. U might say go'ment can back them up. But, that would deny the fact that, we don't want anymore 'monopoly' rite? So, let's think about that... For me, i would say streamyx sux, but i'm still proud to be malaysian, so i won't curse my own nation or even it's countrymen. thanks. |
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Oct 14 2006, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE(Feliex @ Oct 14 2006, 12:39 AM) Baik korang jangan selalu bagi alsan lah..!!! Harlow Mr Feliex... Baik fikir-fikir...Orng Yang Selalu Bagi Alasan Tidak Akan Berjaya...!!!!!! hmm u got some senses at this point but currently i am sure too many ppl want to get the great bandwidth at the same time.. consider this, our bandwidht to other country is very very limited.Moreover,Tmnet itself might even rent their bandwidth to other company too. I myself dont have other options  other than tunnelling n proxy.. proxy dont work for me so far... sad of course.Even if TMNET triple their bandwidth to oversea or even make it 10x the current limits, it will never be enough also.Put it this way, streamyx only shape international gateway but not locally, if u are willing to share ur upload bandwidht then we might as well share p2p locally.I know everyone wants things for free / at cheap price but from now onwards there is no free meals. And another things i am sure u are the type that always give results rather than reasons... Why not show them how u can produce a result to make the bandwidth always sufficient for whole malaysia users rather than just get angry here?Would it be nice if u could suggest something than complain?? |
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Oct 14 2006, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE [color=red] Tuan/Puan, eh, I cant seem to be able to find the original post. clicking on the left arrow didn't bring me to the post .what is happening? anyway, this letter, if it is real, sounds like an open admission by TMnet StreamyX that they are throttling P2P traffic. I wonder what those naysayers, cocktalkers, deniers of reality and TMnet defenders have to say in response. come in now, every single of you who have been talking crap that TMnet is not throttling. how do you feel to be proven wrong? Terima kasih kerana mengirim e-mel kepada pihak kami. Kami memohon maaf di atas kelewatan membalas e-mel ini. Merujuk kepada perkara di atas, kami memahami masalah yang anda hadapi di dalam menakses sebarang aktiviti P2P. Kepadatan trafik daripada aktiviti P2P sebenarnya akan menyesakkan lagi talian internet di mana 20% pengguna sebenarnya menggunakan 80% daripada jumlah keseluruhan "bandwidth" pengguna yang lain. Memandangkan jumlah pengguna jalur lebar adalah semakin meningkat, lebih ramai pengguna dijangkakan akan menggunakan perisian P2P seperti Kazaa dan juga Bit Torrent untuk membuat transaksi fail/data secara "online". Pada kebiasaannya, perisian/aktiviti ini akan dibiarkan berjalan sepanjang hari bagi tujuan muat turun data/fail dan berikutan dengan itu, lebih banyak "bandwidth" diperlukan berbanding dengan pengguna yang hanya menggunakan internet bagi tujuan "surfing" mahupun "chatting". Negara-negara maju sekalipun yang mana mempunyai kadar penembusan jalur lebar yang tinggi akan menghadapi masalah yang sama disebabkan pengguna jalur lebar mempunyai keupayaan untuk menyalahgunakan "bandwidth". Adalah dimaklumkan bahawa kami bukan tidak memihak kepada pengguna-pengguna yang menggunakan P2P tetapi ia merupakan suatu situasi yang tidak adil bagi kepentingan pihak minoriti memandangkan kami tidak dapat menaiktaraf infrastuktur bagi tujuan tersebut. Disebabkan itu, kami telah mengambil jalan untuk menghadkan penguasaan terhadap aplikasi berkenaan. Objektif utama pengawalan penguasaan pada sesetengah link adalah untuk mengurangkan kapasiti kepadatan dan pada masa yang sama membolehkan manstabilkan kualiti perkhidmatan untuk semua pengguna. Pengawalan ini dilihat seperti suatu keperluan memandangkan sifat P2P yang mana menggunakan setiap bandwidth yang ada dan sekiranya dibiarkan tanpa kawalan, ianya akan menyesakkan talian dengan lebih teruk dan akan menyebabkan gangguan pada aplikasi/talian yang lain pula. Malangnya, mekanisma pengawalan ini tidak boleh membezakan jenis talian/aplikasi dan ianya akan mengawal segala-galanya termasuk aktiviti e-mel, ftp, "web browsing" mahupun "video streaming". TM Net telah membuang penyekatan terhadap aktiviti "upload" bagi semua link, tetapi kami masih mengekalkan pengawalan untuk aktiviti "download". Pengawalan ini akan dibuang sejurus selepas kami dapat menambah kapasiti "bandwidth" untuk talian antarabangsa yang dijangkakan sedia beroperasi pada penghujung tahun ini. Kami berharap penjelasan yang diberikan dapat menghuraikan segala pertanyaan anda. Bagi pihak TM Net, kami memohon maaf di atas segala kesulitan yang timbul. Kami akan sentiasa memperbaiki mutu perkhidmatan yang diberikan kepada pelanggan kami. Sekiranya terdapat sebarang pertanyaan atau maklum balas, sila layari laman web www.tm.net.my dan klik "Need Help? Contact our Customer Service". Kami berharap agar sentiasa dapat memberikan perkhidmatan yang terbaik. Yang benar, Narati Samuri Customer Care Support, TM Net Sdn. Bhd. www.tm.net.my (ICOMS#2857612-246085)[/red]  This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 14 2006, 08:46 AM |
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