the only truly effective way to bypass TMnet shaping is to move to an area or new condos serviced by alternative broadband ISPs. if that is not good enough, prepare to farking migrate. complaining to the govt and threatening to vote for the opposition if they don't farking end the farking TMnet monopoly will not be effective as our numbers are very small. and is not helped by the fact that there are some self-righteous, moralising dudes among us who defend monopoly and blatant control of the Internet.

I have just signed up for RELAKSS but when I tried to connect using the Safe Surf software, I got this error message...

""""The L2TP connection attempt failed because the security layer encountered a processing error during initial negotiations with the remote computer. (Error 789) For customized troubleshooting information for this connection, click Help.""""

reading up on Help directed me to a Microsoft Troubleshooting Site, which revealed that the problem is specific to Windows Server 2003 but I am using Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2.

anyone has any idea what I am doing wrong or need to be done? do I need to disconnect from the Internet first prior to logging in with Safe Surf? I doubt it as the software itself need the Internet connection to connect to the relaxss server.

so glad to know that the error is due to their busy server. at least I know it is a problem on their side and not mine. what is the best time to attempt login? I have been trying since my last message and still no luck. I wonder if we are allowed to claim refund if this continue for days. are you currently logged on to the Relakss server?

I manually set up my VPN to connect via PPTP instead of the L2TP/IPSec protocol and although "I am not posting this from Sweden", my IRC download speed has in fact dropped while my Bittorrent (Bitcomet) speed has yet to show any noticeable improvement. By right, this protocol should be faster as it is less popular and hence less congested due to the fact that most people will instantly use the L2TP/IPSec protocol via the convenient executable file.

ok. one of my torrent is getting 20 to 30Kbs, a speed not achievable since the shaping begins, which is good news but my IRC DCC download has actually suffered as a result, possibly due to the sudden extra distance between the person sending the file and the RELAKSS server in Sweden.
I have also noticed that torrents that are using Asian trackers are getting errors message while Europe-based trackers are all accessible. anyone else notice this?

This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 5 2006, 12:50 AM

you, sir, have consistently proved how farking stupid you are for repeatedly denying the obvious. I have just signed up for the secured tunnelling service and using the VPN server, my bittorrent traffic has reached 40kb/s, a rate not achievable since the whole farking episode started. to prove that this has got absolutely nothing to do with the sudden surge of speed from TMnet itself, I logged off from the VPN and restarted my torrents using the normal connection and after one hour, all are still stuck at zero, with the occasional 1, 2 kBs. I switched back the secured tunnelling VPN service and my bittorrent speed immediately shot up. what other farking proof do you want, biatche? you got the right to deny all you want but stop BIATCHING about our rights to discuss legitimate solutions to the obvious throttling problem.

@sa-ndman,

are you manually setting up the right way? you should follow the instruction on this page to setup PPTP VPN connection, which is an entirely different VPN protocol.

https://www.relakks.com/faq/guides/connectionxp/pptpxp.php

@maranello55,

welcome onboard!
btw, did you manage to connect using L2TP/IPSec with its simple executable file or the manual setup of PPTP? and which torrent are you on? I want to test the download speed using the torrent you are on. you can PM me! Thanks

This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 5 2006, 02:38 AM

I don't quite understand what do you mean. "leave it on automatic" ?? you still need to login to the VPN server using the login name and password you signed up with. if you are using the simple executable to login directly, then you are using L2TP/IPSec. if you are not and instead set up the connection based on the instruction on this page,
https://www.relakks.com/faq/guides/connectionxp/pptpxp.php, then you are on PPTP like me. I couldn't connect at all using the downloaded executable file.

I doubt TMnet will go to the extent of blocking individual access to a particular website. that would constitute an act of censorship of the Internet, which is forbidden under the MCMC Act. they would be doing something illegal if they even so much as implement a blockage of any website.
even in extreme cases where they really block, it is simply not possible for them to instruct Secure Tunnel to terminate your account, which is actually what is happening.
read the ACCESS DENIED message carefully. the message itself is made by secure-tunnel.com and originates from the webmaster. we will just wait for update from people who has emailed the website over their terminated accounts.

This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 5 2006, 11:47 AM

I wonder how come our traffic suddenly return to normal and we can download torrents at 60 to 70 kBs after signing on to VPN service or secured tunnelling. maybe the server can break itself momentarily when it detect bittorrent traffic and will fix itself when it detect non-torrent traffic. what a farking intelligent non-throttling server our TMnet have.
the story about the broken Cyberjaya server is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

you sound like a professional defender of the TMnet. maybe you should star in the movie DEFEND WITHOUT A CAUSE and replace James Dean as the latest teen idol of this age. later on, you can even be promoted into DEFENDER OF THE UNIVERSE and become He-Man or Superman.

you remind me of that IRAQI Information Minister who appear on Iraqi TV periodically (and rebroadcast by CNN on Astro) who repeatedly give his assurance that the Iraqi government are still in control of the situation and is winning the war against the Americans and that all is peace and quiet even when the TV monitor located right behind him is showing explosions and gunfire as he speak. Don't get me wrong. I don't support the US war in Iraq but this is to point out the fact of how similar you are to that fellow who are in chronic denial right till the end. well, he at least got a motive. he is Saddam Hussein lackey and has probably been paid a huge sum of money while he is working for him. what is your motive for defending TMnet?

This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 5 2006, 09:17 PM

@awyongcarl,

VPN and secured tunnelling is not some miracle software which can boast your torrent speed no matter what. if the torrent you are on are busy and slow even with other users, VPN and secured tunnelling will not change that.
but 10 to 20kBs is still a big improvement over your previous measly 2 to 5kBs right. what you need to realise is that your connection is back to normal and you only need to get on a torrent with very fast seeds. I am able to reach 70 kBs because one of the seed is uploading 40kBs to me.

what I do know is that my Bittorrent speed is now at 70kBs after using VPN. it has been this fast since this morning. I even checked by logging off VPN and use the normal StreamyX for an hour and two and I am still stuck at 1 to 2 kBs. since you sound like you are so farking professional, maybe you can explain the cause of such a signifant difference. come on, show us your knowledge of networking and shaping and broadband and explain to us.
you said all you are talking about is fact but I didn't see the fact that you mention. where is the fact? you didn't even write enough words in your post to fit into a newspaper advertisement column, let alone arguements to prove something.

you like to talk about fact? THIS IS FACT.
unsecured non-VPN Internet traffic = zero to 5 kBs BT speed
secured VPN Internet traffic = 70 to 80 kbs BT speed.

what other farking proof do you want? maybe you are the kind of people who ask others to cut open their stomach to show you their entrails before you will believe that they are human and they have entrails inside. the rest of us here are smarter than that.

This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 5 2006, 09:58 PM

So you got lucky. where area are you in now? are people in your area all getting good speed? you are right one out of a thousand people here and you called that proof? what duke post? show that post to me .....and please learn to express yourself properly. you sound like the TMnet technician I talked to over the phone the other day.

your EDIT in the last line completely refuted what you are trying to prove, you farking moron.

he keep on harping on facts and proofs but I didn't see shit from him. what a farking troll!

@tvcat,

unlike people like you, who don;t have a life outside of the Internet, we have friends and colleagues and they have friends and colleagues and all of them use StreamyX at home. although they are not members of this forum, there are still many posts by members of this forum talking about slow BT speed and you mean to say you are too farking blind to read them? why do you expect? run a farking opinion poll? go ahead and set up an opinion poll and ask people to vote. what a farking moron

what kind of farking moron think people get jealous for paying RM30 extra ? RM30 doesnt mean shit to me if it can guarantee good speed. I will gladly pay double my current subscription if TMnet can guarantee that I can get good speed consistently with minimal downtime but they can't and they won't upgrade and improve because they are a farking monopoly. your screenshot represent only your speed. it doesn't represent the majority. and the majority of the people here experience slow speed. you even mentioned that the person upping to you are mostly from Kepong, which is local-based. you are not getting good speed from International users. you farking prove yourself wrong. what else do you want to say?

This post has been edited by sanook: Oct 5 2006, 11:49 PM

same issue with the Relakks VPN here. sigh!

anyone else still having problem connecting to relakss.com? I have been trying since I was disconnected last night and I continue to receive the 691 error.

@zaakath,
I can log in the website too but unable to login the VPN server.
When did your bro in law in Subang Jaya sign up?